AEW All In Texas Nailed It, Hangman Page Captures Title

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[SPEAKER_03]: Leave me to do it!

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[UNKNOWN]: It is no pain!

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[SPEAKER_03]: The better it is, the better it was, and the better the will be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're back here in my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The only one in my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And now I reach you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: episode three evening nine of top real nation a Sunday morning here with you to talk AEW all in a little bit of W series made event at the end of the show as well will hit on what happened with Seth Rollins last night and late breaking news on that as we

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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk about pro wrestling this morning, but I think most of it's going to be centered on what was an awesome show from global, I feel down in Arlington, Texas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin, join.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had the opportunity to watch this one with you live yesterday, our friend, Jay, some of our children.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a blast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing this morning, sir?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I somehow feel a combination of full from just one of the best shows I've ever watched.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm also like, just feel exhausted from watching one of the best shows I've ever witnessed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, all I did was sit your basement for six plus hours and watch wrestling and eat junk food, but man, it's incredible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, this thing that we have here and being able to share it together, wrestling is so weird, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, it being basically Broadway plus sports guys wrestling each other in underwear and just the way it can bring us all together and the the community we have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a beautiful thing and I love it and I just feel great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin, should we just throw out what we were talking about last night and fate and pro wrestling and our friendship and all of that for all the listeners?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we were talked about this on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of gets into the genesis of this podcast and the website that predated the podcast and all that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you know, it going back to my point of the community and sharing this, you know, we worked together years ago and then drifted apart, you know, I love that job when somewhere else and basically had

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[SPEAKER_02]: no contact for years and years and and just randomly because of our our love of Mexican food, we ended up at a Mexican restaurant ran into each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we were the only people there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And our our wives are future wives at least.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And through that, you know, I jumped in with your top prognation doing a little writing for you, but, you know, we

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I got to give you all the credit, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you re-agnited my love for professional wrestling and it just started growing and growing and we kept bringing in these amazing people to share it with, you know, like Kyle and Jesse and all the guests we've had on here and all the amazing fucking people we've had the privilege of getting to know through this podcast in the Facebook group.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, getting to watch it to get, you know, getting to watch this kind of show together with friends like you said like Jay and Tim yesterday and it just wouldn't mean dick without the community that, you know, you've grown.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and we've all grown together and it's connection and it's love and it's all in twenty twenty five man it's it's fate it's so cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I cannot top that well said well said it's like it is all fate like the fact that you and I walked into that restaurant at the same time I mean this was

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[SPEAKER_01]: thirteen, twelve, thirteen years after we stopped working at that job that we had together in like a few thousand one thousand two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we were like, hey, we should hang out again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We started talking pro wrestling and then I started the website shortly after that in a couple years later, the podcast and that Kyle and then you stepped in for Kyle and Kyle to break for a little bit and then all three of us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Jesse is fate too because I was just talking to Megan about this my wife when we hung out with Jesse on the way up to Minnesota this past week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, oh, so how did you ingest me to get him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, well, believe it or not, Jesse won a drawing we did to give away the all out to thousand twenty one paper viewers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're trying to grow our YouTube subscribers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he legit won the drawing randomly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when I messaged him to get his information to buy the paper view form, he told me about his podcast, which was on blue wire hustle at the time when we were on blue wire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so then we started talking and all we should collaborate and then eventually just he's here on the show so like he won a drawing which got our friendship growing just in we happened to walk into a restaurant at the same time in our community of you know, hundred and fifty thousand people or whatever

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just wild how fate works out and it all comes together so we can all share this love of pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as you said, you threw out a lot of the names, all the cool people we've gotten to meet and doing this show, the community, the Facebook group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really, really awesome to share all of this with everyone in Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome to see you this week, sir, as we went to Boca Chica for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Take a very little next speaking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Mexican food.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing this morning, Jesse?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so happy you made it up there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got a chance when you said it was the best Mexican food and maybe Margaret you've ever had in your life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My eyes about popped out of my head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was very thankful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, Justin everything was extremely well said and I was going to say we're going to be eventually doing a show talking about the history of top rope nation prawn unplugged here probably within a couple of months once we see it the settle down here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and go over the entire origin story, but you just started it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, that's really good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My viewing experience yesterday wasn't as lively as yours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I started watching very late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, I got through about, oh, eighty percent of it all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But from what I saw, obviously, I enjoyed and I saw the most important parts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, the culmination of a new heavyweight champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and a new era and a UW.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got two things here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Number one going back to the idea of community.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it keeps us all together in

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[SPEAKER_02]: because you want to know what everybody's thinking about certain things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there have been numerous points in the last decade where I very well could have checked out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But whether that's, you know, Kyle leaving and me needing to step up a little bit and maybe play a bigger role or just maybe not being all that much interested in the product and wanting to leave.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like you want to keep coming back, you want to be there for your community, you know, and it just ties us

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[SPEAKER_02]: all together tighter, you know, uh, the other thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I am incredibly insulted Ryan that the best Mexican food you've ever had is Boca Chica and not the six pack in a pound of Taco Johns.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I brought to your house yesterday at his bullshit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That did hit the spot quite well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say it's been a while since I would taco John's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you either long time listeners of top overnight, you know, taco John's was Kyle's favorite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we would often jokingly mention on the show that taco John's needs to be a sponsor of this podcast and Justin showed up to my house with the six pack and a pound and his son yesterday and that was pretty incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jason, me this Texas, where I got to read.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'd promise we'll get to the show you guys, but we're feeling it in the fields, you know, here this morning as Carl said in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jason, thanks for all in yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a minute since I hung out in a basement for eight straight hours eating Doritos Taco Johnson cookies heck of a day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dante checking in this more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our good friend and patron of the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He says first great to see the trio on screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Second, I had to see the show live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did want to wait till physical therapy tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dante checking in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, good morning to everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good morning to your new AEW World Heavyweight Champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hangman Adam Page and a main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: of all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about it a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been talking about it for months, wood, hangman page, capture the AEW title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to say, it lived up to everything I was expecting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were high-fiving in the group that we watched with when he won.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to say, I mean, I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably by match of the year right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've watched it twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched it a second time last night also just as good the second time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get into the details, but I mean, well executed all around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the right guy to defeat John Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mox was awesome in this match too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Paid off the storyline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to say it was a match of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they had ring of honor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bandito and Takeshda had a match of the year contender the night before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, this is a paper view, by the way, that you know, looking up and down this card, how many, I mean, four plus star matches, we're looking at probably one, two, it's probably four or four plus star matches on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been done my grades for a patrons yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think four matches are gonna come in over four stars with a hell of a night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How you feeling with hanging man pages, your new world heavyweight champion, Justin Joy,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's no doubt he is all caps the guy as we've been saying for a while now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not only is he the guy, but he was the guy who breathed new life into this death writer's storyline that felt like it was dying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That it was hanging on by a thread by the time we got to like, moxley, open at revolution.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He made it feel more important than it had in, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: any previous point leading up to that end.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just, I mean, to me, it's just, everything was executed perfectly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know a lot of people have issues with all the Gaga and shenanigans and the run-ins, but everything made sense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, this wasn't Undertaker just randomly popping up in the main event of WrestleMania forty, not to bring in the other company into what

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[SPEAKER_02]: should just this should this is a W man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is this is the culmination of putting all the pieces back together that felt completely shattered and broken like year ago two years ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, to rip off their saying, but the feeling has been restored and the number one reason is hangman page.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a super chat role in this morning from John Hope, appreciate you, John, for the super chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: John says, all in was amazing and made me remember why I love wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Listening to you guys makes me proud to be a T.R.N.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Patreon, best paper view so far this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, John.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's, there's a lot of talk out there about the length of this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: six hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was not expecting it to be that long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we were communicating with our wives about when the show might get over trying to coordinate dinner and time and everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at first, I'm like, yeah, probably seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was getting layers like it's going to be eight o'clock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I haven't fact checked this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw the comments out there that longest North American paper views surpassing WrestleMania thirty nine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: I gotta tell you guys, we reviewed WrestleMania thirty nine or sorry, thirty five on this podcast back in two thousand and nineteen live after it went off the air that night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I practically had to drag Justin and my other computers to make him do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody wanted to do that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a long paper view, mostly bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And last night, if we would have done this podcast, I would have been ready to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was hyped up for watching that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a totally different feeling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at this point, I want to bring up a comment that our friend Tim left on the Facebook group this morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I told him I was going to feature this in the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I keep seeing the shows too long or it's five hours complaints and it really starting to bug me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We live in a world where we get less and less for our money these days and this show was beyond worthy of the fifty dollar price.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We used to get three hour paper views from WWF and WWE for the same amount and maybe get one or two good matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well said, I think, I mean, they always give you their money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's where Dustin Rhodes said in the press grum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last night, nobody does paper view like us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He repeated it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, I can't think of a bad ad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like I don't want to come across like I'm standing for this company, but it's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They always deliver on paper view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've criticized their television several times over the years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when it gets to paper view, man,

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[SPEAKER_01]: These shows are always phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, John, to me, it was my best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's my number one paper view so far this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about you, Jesse?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna have to get through a couple more things, like I still have not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only match I have not seen from any part of it was Omega Ocata.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I still gotta throw that into the mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were parts, small parts where I could nitpick it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: However, I think the rest of the show was a whole was

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[SPEAKER_00]: Excellent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will definitely say that yeah, hangman is absolutely the right guy Ryan Kudos last fall for for calling that one out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's the main character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has the energy and Justin made the points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to make about the interference in the Avengers endgame stuff, which I just said on unplugged that if I saw if I saw it, I would criticize it much like I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Russell, maybe a forty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it all makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What would I have liked it to be a little bit different?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, however, what I will say is that the death riders have always been involved in John Moxley's matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's been the modest upper end eye for the last.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're looking at ten months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been Claudio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been Wheeler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen Marina Schaffier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually loved Marina's inclusion in this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that she added a little extra element to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that part was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The violence holy cow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like from the get go, the fork and the

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[SPEAKER_00]: that it was like I watched that one in the morning and I saw the blood immediately spurred from his forehead and my eyes about just popped out of my head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were screaming when that happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were, oh my god, you were stealing these nuts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was insane dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was Moxley's by far best performance as an AW World Champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Agreed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So is it match of the year, contender?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Were the absolutely is it my match of the year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to watch it one more time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because I can't be viewing it with a straight lens at one o'clock in the morning, very tired from a long day, two hours of a bouncy house and keeping a four year old occupied all by myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm super happy in looking forward to seeing where the direction of the company is going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I also thought like those little sprinkled in spots with two returning performers, one on a part-time basis, one on a full-time basis, was done correctly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean to the point of the interference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it all made sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was all in the deathwriters' universe and all the people that have been surrounding them and orbit throughout the last several months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they get Darby Allen appearing on the screen, cutting a promo on Mount Everest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Heek, pun intended, pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, my god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you get Brian Danielson coming out there with a mask on, setting that place on fire, cleaning, cleaning out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: doing the yes chant immediately after supposedly apparently being told by the other corporation to stop doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And show it is absolute love for blue panther with the mask like he probably that has to be his favorite wrestler of all time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when Marina went over to grab the briefcase.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she gets handcuffed and Nana comes out from underneath the table.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not see that coming at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, obviously getting sore about there at the finish that tense face off with hangman and then handing him the cake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The chain was just well done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uniting the big story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the big rivalry, the promo they did on collision, Justin, you were talking a lot about that, you know, yesterday and how it made you a little uneasy on which way the match could go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It paid it all off, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It all was logical, you know, and in this situation, all of the, all the runs made sense because the, you know, the death writers always do that and all these people are connected to the story that the death writers are telling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the finish, you know, we talked about the crazy spots, you know, there was the nails, there was the tables, there was the last, there was the fork that you mentioned, all this stuff, we knew it was gonna be insane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the way John Moxley sold the chain and the hanging over the top rope was incredible, like probably the best selling of Moxley's career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I saw the point made where, you know, like in the end,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Moxley, a guy who portrays himself as being tougher than everybody, yet he's always surrounded by these guys that help him in the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's left all on his own and he's a coward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and he sells it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's freaking out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His eyes are practically popping out of his head as he's squirming and squirming and then he taps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't get much better than this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was perfect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like to me, everything about this match was perfect and I had this moment of panic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: when a hangman was trying to open the briefcase and it looked like like if the key didn't work or maybe the briefcase was like smash just right so that he wasn't going to get it open and he like it looked like you know he was crying and I had this like

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[SPEAKER_02]: This, of course, this is gonna happen now on the biggest show with this perfect match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now this stupid thing is gonna happen where they can't actually open the briefcase and they're gonna have to like spend all this, but no, he just slowly opens it up, pulls that beautiful belt out and displays it for all the fans.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was just, everything was perfect about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Which still had Brian's side plates on it too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A great little seat to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I gotta say.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if this has ever been, I'm not quite the historian as maybe you guys are for professional wrestling, but while the death writers angle very much had its ups and downs started off brilliantly and then went into a major role kick back in this spring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The idea of locking away your world title and keeping it away from everybody and so nobody can see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: To me, it's going to go down as one of the all-time greatest wrestling angles ever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: To have your big baby face fully cement himself by showcasing it to the world, fucking brilliant.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry for the cursing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it is the best looking championship belt in pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just put the screenshot up there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when the crowd finally saw the belt again, they passed it for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's been what nine months or something since we even seen the belt on television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's hangman holding up at the end of the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the payoff was exquisite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesse, he thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: four different shades of color all over his body.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like white and just his tan and red and a little bit of purple pink.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it just showed and I think him losing it at the end was a fantastic touch of

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think summarizes well all that he's gone through from the time that he lost the championship at double or nothing in twenty two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I think deep down he maybe saw that he was potentially maybe losing favor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think backstage specifically with Tony Khan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: when a certain someone was there and won the championship off of him and then for him to maybe in his terms resurrect his time there in a w and just everything that he's gone through ever since in the culmination of it all and how hard he worked to get here and to rescue the company from where it's been the last nine months was incredible so i was again the presentation like Justin said was absolutely tremendous

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[SPEAKER_00]: top to bottom and well worth that forty five minutes that that they put into it too because there were a lot of these matches that I felt could have been cut a couple minutes down but this one deserve every single minute of it there wasn't a single second wasted

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[SPEAKER_01]: Carl's got some good chats here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to feature.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Carl said not a faint of the death match style, particularly in a promotion that does overdo the hyperviolent matches, but the story going into the match and through the match itself was as good as you will see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he said the pro to the length of the show total was it allowed things to breathe, which isn't usually the case with AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That said, they could have trimmed an hour off without impacting the show quality.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Robert

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[SPEAKER_01]: Checkin' in here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate you watching Robert says it was the longest paper view of my life, but I loved every minute of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of entrances, John shouted this out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Hangman's old theme, and some cool camera work, too, where at first, the camera looks to the heel side, and then shoots over to the right side, and then Hangman comes out the baby face side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, for the first time in a long time, and he's got the old theme song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was pretty awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw a lot of talk on on social of would he go back to the old theme and I like the dark theme.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I played out our last week's podcast to that theme.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was growing on me, but I really like to be face theme.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I like that now kind of like the character transformation has come full circle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's back to the old theme and where he used to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also got to say, Hangman, I think most people in pro wrestling, we know there's a couple of exceptions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One in particular, most people in pro wrestling, I'm nothing but good things to say about this dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when he went out there at the press grum afterwards yesterday, just he did most of it in character, but there was like elements of reality blended into what he was saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it just comes across just so authentic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was practically in tears at times, him and Tony embraced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They told each other if they loved each other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's worth watching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he talked about all the trials and tribulations over the last few years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we know some of that's on screen and some of it's real life too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in the end, I think it was hard to not be happy for this guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And where he is now, as a standard bear of this company,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said it since last fall, you said it Jesse a minute ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He made the most sense to end this rain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's one of the pillars of the company and everything that his character has gone through to get him to this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the ultimate like reaching the mountain top once again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see where this rain goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's sure starting off on good footing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go, Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I was going to say it's interesting how Will Osprey was taking out, taken out in the very beginning of all of the interference in and against and also with Samoa Joe, being put on a structure in the early on stages, just kind of setting up that Hangman was going to be starting at a deficit when the match began.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he would need a little bit of assistance because we knew what was coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that touch too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a stretcher to mount after taking that pile driver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, again, the interference made sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the match was incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After two watches, I was pretty certain I'm going to give this one five stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a five star match to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I rarely give out five, but this is, I think it's a five star.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's getting five homes for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a lot of talk here about attendance and a. W building up their.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Building up some momentum again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm seeing in the chat room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did not announce an attendance last night unless I missed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Tony was asked about in the press.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Grom and he made it sound like it might come in close to thirty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know that according to WrestleTix, they were getting close to twenty six thousand just before the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have like the final walkout numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, there's going to be comps on top of that media members, all that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I think my original prediction, you can go back in the archives when this show was announced.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, I think they'll do twenty-five to thirty and it looks like that's where it's going to come in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a, that's a really good house for them here in North Carolina.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, in North America, they have run Texas a lot over the years, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it is a market that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Outside of Chicago, which obviously they've saturated and run nonstop over the years, Texas is probably right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They run that Texas loop all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And still, and we know they do a big travel and audience for these paper views too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But man, that is a hell of an attendance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the biggest North American attendance non-WWE since like the heyday of WCW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're, yeah, would it been nice to get forty thousand in there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it looked great on television and that's a huge house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a big house.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's the key is that it looked like way more than what it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I do think if you want to nitpick the show, the issue is with that big vestadium.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that amount of people is that the sound really got lost often with the matches where it was, it sounded like you could hear a pin drop at certain parts of the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So when the fans weren't into something, it was very obvious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, when they got loud, they got loud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yet, all kudos to the AW production team, the stadium looked like a million bucks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The show looked

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[SPEAKER_02]: like a, you know, I'm sorry, but it looked like a wrestle mania, you know, this, this, this, they really pulled it off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the stage was phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I talked to some people who were there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They said it was loud throughout the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think part of that is just how was Mike, but also just being in a stadium where the sound just tends to just go straight up and the pierced quieter watching a TV that actually is their life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, anything else on the main event for we're not going to be able to have time to run through like the details of everyone match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we could just kind of skim through the card and talk about any big points that you guys want to make as we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw you as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dante.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Should we start at the beginning then?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Real quickly and just work our way forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We wanted to start with the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go to the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll finish here with Okada and Omega, which is in the semi main spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, there was a pre show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of watching that zero hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had, let's see, they had the trio's title match on zero hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just start with that open the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or no, that would open the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, what am I looking at here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that open the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember we were talking about,

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[SPEAKER_01]: what would open the show and the gauntlet was our prediction and then being the second match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we had the ops defeat the death writers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did think, I think I said this on the preview I did for BR.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think the death writers would win here just because of the prediction that Moxley would lose the world title and not knowing what that would do for the stable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, long term, so I didn't think that they would, if they had moved the titles to the death writers here and that's what happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The ops retain Justin and Jesse, you weren't chime in here on eighth thoughts in the opener.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As many other people have pointed out, Samoa Joe opened the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He opened all in and when has that ever been an issue going forward?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing happened two years ago or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's steadfast opener for this company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Keep things on track.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the match for people get out there for their match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The match was solid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing special.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just kind of did what it needed to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: fun to see Gabe Kid get a little bit of shine here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know he's gonna go back for the G-One here next week and he'll definitely be at forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would like to see more of an inclusion here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do worry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I in parentheses worry that Gabe Kid does sign with with AEW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He gets stolen away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna also put that in parentheses because I really like his character and he brings a different dimension to any promotion that he's in because he's so unique, especially in the New Japan side of things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we were talking about game during this match a lot here, watching it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some people are negative on Gabe Kid, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he fits the Death Riders more perfectly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know Justin does as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jay was making that he was constantly joking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure that Gabe Kid knows that pro wrestling isn't real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just the way he carries himself out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's great, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the intensity that he has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He fits the mold of what a Death Riders should be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that was, that was the opener, salad, nothing too special, right result, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in the, the second match, which was the casino gauntlet for a future shot at the World Heavyweight Championship, we had, I'll just read through everyone that was in the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anthony Bowens, Bandito, Brody King, Josh Alexander, juice, juice Robinson, freshly shaved juice Robinson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kenosuke Takeshta, Kota Babushi, Mark Brisco, Max Caster, Mystico, Ricochet, Roderick Strong, the Beesmortos, and your winner, MJF.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a fun match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this one was a little long though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought a kind of drag that points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually, I thought the women's casino match was better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end, I think MJF winning is probably the right call looking at the roster they had there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin, you made the points about maybe the roster not being up to part for this one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it just got to a point where it just felt like it was kind of midcard or after midcard or especially when you compare it to all in last year, which I don't know how they will ever top that casino gauntlet match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This definitely one of the weaker versions of this match, but it's still solid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I grew few too long could have been cut down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of these guys could have been

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[SPEAKER_02]: from to the wood shed, but you know, juice is back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did not get Eddie Kingston, which was a bit of a bummer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Gun boys are back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, and I think this is the theme of the show, the right guy won.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the finish was kind of what you wanted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, made Mark look strong while looking, making MJF look like a little shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is going to make for compelling television now that MJF gets to chase.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been in this scenario for three years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just talking about too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So set a chase in Moxie this time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be Hangman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know that Hangman already has the one up on him earlier this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm I'm psyched to see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The hurts in the kit will be tied into it as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the match definitely drew on a little bit too long, but there really wasn't any other, I'm trying to think outside of like an Eddie Kingston, like you said, who else would you throw in there to just live in this battle royale up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, ten minutes should have been shaved off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool to see juice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not an ever had been a huge juice Robinson fan, but it's always great to see somebody fully healthy again, especially when we're about to talk something else that unfortunately is going the wrong way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: agree all around john hopes as big a shock of the night was used without his beard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Noah check it in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He says what's up guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in the building last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What a freaking show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: AEW is on fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, outside of Eddie, Eddie was the one that we really wanted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We thought Eddie Kingston might be in this man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would have been really cool to see him come out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, with MJF winning, kind of funny moment in the press grum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, man was asked about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the guy who asked the question, I think, phrase it wrong, but he said something about MJF has your number.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like head snap around he's like, what do you mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talking about he has my number.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was offended.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a pretty funny moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, hey man, it's got some strong heels lined up for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, MJF, you know, they kept O'Cotta strong here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: O'Cotta could be putting a program with him down the line here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, they got a lot of options.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be fun to see which direction they go, but MJF with the contracts can be the one that's kind of hanging there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do hope they they change that contract where they they move away from the money in the bank.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, aspect of it and just make it like you have to call your shot in advance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Tony said he was going to clarify the rules with it here this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe so they haven't said for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ricochet would have been an interesting winner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt here too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that hell would have live in some things us, especially for what he's done the last six months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then to cash it out is now going to be on excursion where I think Justin's trying to call this shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll follow along.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a feeling he's going to be in New Japan's plans for the next nine to twelve months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin also made the point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think during the match, Justin, you said that you wouldn't mind a hangman ricochet feud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He'd be a solid kind of early title reign contender.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the TNT title match, which we thought was going to be sweatshirt against Adam Cole and everyone expected sweatshirt to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was real unfortunate moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They announced during the afternoon that Adam Cole was not medically cleared.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not going to be able to capture Earth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry to defend the TNT title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they vacated the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They made it Dustin Rhodes against Daniel Garcia against Kyle Fletcher against Sammy Guevara.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and they sent out coal, had this extremely emotional promo, doesn't know if he's gonna wrestle again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's lots of speculation on what's going on with him, although Tony did use the term injury in the post-show scrum, because they saw some of the other theories out there, but he did say injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be willing to bet it's concussion related.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would seem most likely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in confirmation, but it would seem that that's the case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They said that he started feeling

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[SPEAKER_01]: bad, I guess late Friday night into Saturday morning and then they made the decision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I booked this one on the fly and you know, we were talking live that it would have been cool to see a little bit different roster here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We thought Brody King would have made sense in this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we were kind of questioning

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[SPEAKER_01]: why Sammy was in the match, why Dustin was in the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Garcia and Fletcher obviously made a lot of sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end, you know, I thought what they did with Dustin Rhodes capturing the TNT title, shocking everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And imagine one about fourteen minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good way to kind of change the trajectory of the emotions in this match because it was hard to get the crowd back into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right before the match, Cole does that promo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's crying out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a huge downer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No question about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody likes Adam Cole, regardless of what you think about his A, W, Ron, which has been plagued by injuries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the most well-liked guys in the industry and was such a downer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to put the title on Dustin in his home state and all time legend was a feel-good moment that kind of brought the crowd back, I thought.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it really reminded me of the way Undertaker's streak came to an end at WrestleMania thirty how that just sucked all the air out of the room and it took a while for them for the crowd to get back into it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was very much similar to that where they needed to speed up this match a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They did kind of get them back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, sorry, my boy, just walked into the room.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and now I have lost my train as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, okay, they needed to speed up the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They needed to get to the finish sooner, but I think they called the perfect audible going to Dustin Rhodes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would highly recommend

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[SPEAKER_02]: watching the media scrum where Tony talks about Dustin's history with trying to get that TNT championship and obviously I think we can all agree that he is the best roads to ever hold that title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he is the best wrestler of Rhodes family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To me, that I don't think that that's even debatable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this guy has been high level ever since the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You go back, you watch his early ninety stuff like we just did with Beach Blast ninety two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know like when he started, there's a lot of people's eye and went nepotism, Dusty Skid, all that, but like he quited those people very quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has been one of the most well-rounded

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[SPEAKER_01]: excellent workers in the industry for like three decades.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody respects him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Renee said last night, she said that Dustin is her favorite wrestler of all time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they had this cool moment in the scrum where they hugged.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, I think it was a good feel good moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we all expect Fletcher to be for the title and short order.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that should happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That should happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, getting to see how much it meant to Dustin as soon as the match was over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that just kind of it made those

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[SPEAKER_02]: It kind of achy feelings of Adam Cole, I possibly not been able to wrestle again and how much of a downer that was getting and you see why Adam Cole was so upset is because of how much this wrestling means to them and how much it means it's been rose to be able to win that match and get that title in his home state.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know where else you could have pivoted there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna yuck on everyone's yuck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just gonna take John Hopes point into account here that Kyle Fletcher should absolutely squash Dustin Rhodes in like two or three minutes and a couple of weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I doubt that that will happen just because Dustin's so well respected.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure he's gonna want to have a good match with him because he can and Dustin's a legend and all of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he should beat him pretty solidly and I'm sure that's gonna happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm going to see a six month reign out of Duster Rose or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we are going to have to breeze through the rest of these matches because I see where I'm at this point, forty two, forty two minutes in and we got to get roll in here because I got some stuff to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, yes, we're of an hour spread.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, go ahead, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm wondering, I would like to know if this match here was an audible, like maybe if it was going to be pushed, it was originally pushed farther back on the card, but seeing how down the crowd was after that, I'm cold news.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tony kind of threw it in earlier to pick everybody back up because, oh boy, it did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sort of an osp, raise match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're of an osp, Ray.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Taken on the young bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a real, really cool moment where, uh, Bray Wyatt's, uh, widow, JoJo came out and she sang Swerves Independent theme song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First, before he came out to his regular theme song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You had the assassin's Creed entrance for Will Osprey, and then the young bucks just pulling at my heart as a historian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Coming out, we were joking about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember how it came up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think your son said something, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, yeah, didn't you know that the young bucks, you know, they crossed the Delaware River one night?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was before they came out the boat, and then like, just seconds later, we were like, holy shit, they're actually doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I jokingly mentioned this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, they come out in the boat like as George Washington crossing the Delaware River to Trenton, December of seventeenth, seventies, six on Christmas night, unbelievable entrance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was so entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but Jesse, I'll throw it to you as our resident Will Osprey expert, but this was a freaking outstanding match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and completely tugged on my heart strings for the independent song, Shaka Khan's Ain't Nobody, that's probably in my top ten of all time period songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, got that from my father.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could almost argue it's my favorite just because you everybody knows my my bias behind probably all four of these guys because I'm a big square fan to but connecting all the dots and just sheer athleticism.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also slowing things down for storyline purposes made all the sense in the world and you got the entitled EVP is trying to

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[SPEAKER_00]: throw their way around and Swerven will fighting knowing that if they don't win this, that they're gonna have to be on the backburners for a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that would have made for some interesting television over the next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also could have played a role into what Hangman's gonna be doing without those two moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, tremendous match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And high spots are definitely my thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've yet to top two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Top two from you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Justin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it had some incredible nearfalls, shout out to Dax Harwood for actually being the best of kicking out before the three, but there were certainly a lot of moments where you honestly believed that the young bucks were going to be the ones to pull it out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But solid match, again, the only nitpick too long.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's definitely parts of this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They could have

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[SPEAKER_02]: done without but this is the most important I think the young books have ever felt in a w I think they're at the top of their game it just goes show again how a w is just clicking right now um it'll be interesting to see what they do going forward without the the EVP powers if you will

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that just, again, it's like this show, it's the culmination, but also what's going to happen going forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I still want to watch dynamite to see how things proceed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think we all thought that getting the EVP stuff away from them on screen would be the right way to go, kind of end that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what this does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just didn't like the idea of taking both Swerve and Osprey out of the world title scene for a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just one of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you can make the argument, but both that would have really hurt the product, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I didn't think that they would go that route.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought that this was the right finish for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, overall, I'm not going to run through every spot in the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here was a point where, uh, Osprey hit the hidden blade on Swirv on accident.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but in the end, they, they both hit their finishers at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it the hidden blade in the house?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And simultaneously to get the pinfall and to get the win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was, uh, it was a phenomenal match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went about twenty six minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, worth, uh, going out of your way to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The women's casino gauntlet, as I said earlier, was the better of the gauntlets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The roster included Athena, who won, which I think was the right call, Alex Windsor, Julia Hart, Chris Stattlander, Megan Bane, Mianashira Kahua, Queen Aminata, Siri, Tymello,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thunder Rosa and Willow Night in Gale.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we all kind of thought Athena made the most sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's been one of the best women's wrestlers in the industry the last few years, but a lot of people haven't been seeing her work because she's been an ROH for most of that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now hopefully send her fully onto dynamite and collision and eventually maybe winning the world title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: local gal to we've talked about you know all the promotional work that she did leading up to all in the crowd loved seeing her win right call all around and i'm looking forward to see what they do with her until vision jessie

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, nine hundred days plus is are always champion enough enough and it's time for a change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She got you got to elevate her to the all elite wrestling main roster get her on television more and yeah, with the inclusion chasing looks like Tony that's going to be interesting of well, no, Athena plays a heal more on our way she does in a w so

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alex, when Windsor making her, either her debut or like a second or third match her official debut, of course, she's Will Ospreys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She on say, Jay brought this up last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had totally forgot about this, but I believe she wrestled last June at a dynamite that we went to on the rampage, taping in the bill up to forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I knew, like I said, there she'd made a couple of appearances there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Will made mention of it that she'd officially signed and it's cool to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think there's only a couple other ways you could have gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, Athena was a hundred percent the right one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Megan Bane would have been fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt I would have loved to have seen Willow night and Gayle, but that might have tipped off what was going to happen with Mercedes and Tony a little bit later to go in the other way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, honestly, when we actually had Athena win, I thought it made me think even more than Mercedes was going to win because I figured they'd run back that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I still was a little surprised.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had no idea which way they would go on that women's match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have gone either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to that one here in just a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Justin thoughts on this one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right person one, Athena, huge pop coming out, huge pop winning the match will also with a pop of the night too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's my main thing come out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is wanting to see what they do with her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They need to elevate willow to a top of the card.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we get the three way tag team match for the tag titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hertz Syndicate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: jet speed with Kevin Knight and speedball Mike Bailey and the patriarchy Christian Cage and Nick Wayne.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I thought the only way that they would switch the titles here would be if MJF ended up costing their Hertz and to get the titles and they went with that split.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't go that route.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got something else, a different twist to all this in the end of the match itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't really stand out to me at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really served as a vehicle in the end to bring back Edge or Adam Copeland and to start the storyline with Christian Cage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Jesse, any thoughts on this match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely a few minutes too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's when close to twenty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was something that was already stretching a little long and knowing what was coming and they probably should have shortened it a few minutes, especially even afterwards with how everything went down and Adam Copeland posing before saving his friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, apparently there's still not very much friends, you know, with what we saw afterwards, but yeah, we were joking about that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're going the wrong way on the stage, Adam, why are you going over there to pose for your friends?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Headbashed them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see what it, sorry about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can take the guy out of WWE, but you can't take that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what Justin said live for when we were watching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was Jake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jake had that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or was it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll say what it looks like moving forward with Copeland and Christian risk with with Christian in the heel dynamic in him getting beat up by heels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of I don't know just kind of odd to feel sympathy for somebody who's just been a total dick this entire AEW run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I'm glad that

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[SPEAKER_02]: coped in just forgive them on the spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They do have to do a little bit more storytelling to actually get those guys back together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, that obviously there was the call back to in Christian did the go F yourself after we thought they were together with Copeland doing the cheesy in a bad way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go find yourself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, man, that's just not good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But again, I'm glad they didn't just embrace and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Call it good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Should he have told him to go find a smile without a workbook?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the end of the match, lastly, hit Christian with a spear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They cover, they retain, and then it was all this post match stuff that we're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So basically, FDR had a face off with the Patriarchy, and Nick Wayne ended up turning on Christian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hit him with the kill switch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kip Sabian jumps in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all beating them up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mother Wains over on the side laughing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: FTR is joining in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's about to hit him with the chair to the head and then Copeland's music hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He comes out with the spike two by four and he's he's cleaning house and Christian and hamsterity, each other Copeland gets out of the ring and says, go find yourself and leaves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll get the edge in Christian reunion down the line, but this is kind of starting the ball rolling for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, there we get to the women's title match, Tony Storm, defending the AW Women's title against Mercedes-Meney.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, like we said in the weeks leading up to this, we had no idea who it would win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the marquee match to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was a phenomenal match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and in the end, Tony retains.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The match had some memorable moments throughout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony going to town on Mercedes and a clip they put out there in their social media.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, some kissing in the ring, you know, Tony playing head games throughout and all of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but Jesse surprised by the by the, by the finish at all, right choice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was really surprised and just the whole dulling of finisher's three storm zeros and like five seconds and Mercedes gets up to I did not like that at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was, yeah, I could nitpick that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was, I mean, I guess they're setting up the ultimate finish, which is the Storm Zero off the ropes, which was a pretty eye popping spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was pretty incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony was asked about it in the post show Scrum about like, you know, when she had the idea for this and basically they wanted a long answer out of her of doing the move and she would just like, I just wanted to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have any other thoughts other than that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I could see two storm zeros and spacing it out a little bit and then maybe Mercedes getting up at two, but yeah, that was just a little bit too rapid fire for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt these two had really good chemistry and ring, so it was super fun to watch the match when a lot faster than the twenty six minutes showed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So was it the right winner?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Personally, I thought Mercedes is going to win and I think if anyone is going to hand her her first loss, why not Tony Storm?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's the hottest character on the women's side and all of professional wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it never ever hurts to have her do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's going to mean something more for Athena down the line, maybe taking the title from Tony as opposed to Mercedes Monet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: John Hope with a great chat that I'm not going to put on screen, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I thought if I had push comes to shove, I thought Mercedes was going to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Tony beating Mercedes, I'm totally fine with Justin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this, this, for me, of all the matches on the show, this was the biggest toss up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No idea who was gonna win to Jesse's point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is kind of a, to be decided as to who, if the correct lady won, because that's gonna have to see how it goes forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: To me, this was the best or second best match of the night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The kicking out of the three storm zeros is not bothering me at all because one, I don't think that's very good finisher to begin with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and Mercedes is a huge deal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So protecting her in her first AW loss is not an issue that I have ran into.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's set up the big finish with the second rope storm zero.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I love this match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it had the right kind of intensity to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It had a big match feel and these two ladies are just again locked in right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I still don't understand how this Tony Storm character actually works.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like she's just so good at it and makes it so believable and fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you give this character to anybody else and it falls flat on its face, but but she just makes it work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, excited to see where both these ladies go moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: such a wild card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She walks in for that scrum after the show and Renee's like, oh, this, this one always makes me nervous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know this was on the show property and you're probably like, where you talking about this, but I thought it was entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, let's talk about Renee's pants and she had to, Renee could get stand up and show off her pants and then Tony's like, I must have you now and she picks up Renee and she carries Renee out of the media room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's gone for the rest of the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like her promo on Thursday night talking about Texas with steers and something else and I'm definitely one of those The line from that full metal jacket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember, but that's the famous line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing that comes out of Texas is steers and something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah real sergeant says that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, I think Justin, I might call this my second favorite match of the night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, there was four matches I'd put over four stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one we're about to talk about, the women's match here, sort of an Osprey against the bucks and of course the main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I was thoroughly sports entertain throughout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The character work was phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Luther was good as always out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was, this was really good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lastly, the AEW unified title with the Continental Champion taken on the International Champion, Kazushka, Okada, Kenny Omega.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know the storied history.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've covered their past New Japan matches on the podcast here many years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First time they have wrestled here in North America.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They go thirty-one minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okada ends up getting the fall over Omega.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought Omega was going to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't like super confident in that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't hate having a strong heel in Ocada with your baby face champion though, you know, with with hangman here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that that makes a lot of sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesse, I mean, you're a huge new Japan pro wrestling fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we've all seen the matches that they had over there, but I'm sure you're particularly, particularly fond of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thoughts on this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this one you haven't seen yet?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the only one I've missed and I'll just say one thing about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have wished that they would have used Continental Championship rules for this match, but that could also be alluding to what's coming later for these two down the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they had a really good video package before the match, you know, kind of building up to all this for people who haven't seen their history and, you know, they did that on TV to kind of show in the backstory between everything, but it felt like a huge, huge match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Omega had the, you know, the final fantasy entrance and all of that for the big match, feel Justin thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tony in the press grums said that because of caught a one that going forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All these matches would be under continental classic rules where there will be no interference.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he actually even said that if if Don call us had done that under continental rules, he would have been fired.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a lot of again, a lot of people pointed this out, but the fascinating thing going into this matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of the history of late career rematches of classic rivalries.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like how was this going to stack up against a flare steamboat, ninety four missile, a quata in oh five and punk scene a just a month ago.

01:00:05.766 --> 01:00:09.287
[SPEAKER_02]: And I would say this is easily a step below.

01:00:11.223 --> 01:00:12.444
[SPEAKER_02]: their previous matches.

01:00:13.224 --> 01:00:23.870
[SPEAKER_02]: But it goes to show how awesome those matches are that this is still easily a four star match at least.

01:00:25.211 --> 01:00:25.831
[SPEAKER_02]: They're older.

01:00:25.891 --> 01:00:27.132
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they've lost a step.

01:00:27.292 --> 01:00:32.394
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not as quick or as brisk as their previous stuff, but they're still laying the stuff in.

01:00:32.434 --> 01:00:38.498
[SPEAKER_02]: They're still so smart at where to be in the ring at the right moments that everything still works in that old man.

01:00:39.278 --> 01:00:45.040
[SPEAKER_02]: even factors into it where you kind of feel every hit a little bit more and you're get a little bit more worried about it.

01:00:45.481 --> 01:00:53.524
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this match is better than those other classic rematches that I just mentioned by quite a bit in fact.

01:00:54.044 --> 01:00:59.766
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, but there's just no way that this was going to live up to the previous ones, but it was still amazing.

01:00:59.827 --> 01:01:01.887
[SPEAKER_02]: This was my third best match in the night.

01:01:02.888 --> 01:01:03.068
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you've watched the other ones and especially if you've gone back and rewatch them, you'll notice a huge difference in the speed of the matches.

01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:18.827
[SPEAKER_01]: But that said, like you, I would agree when you looked to rekindle these old rivalry, is this one still lived up to the hype?

01:01:18.887 --> 01:01:20.629
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was an awesome match.

01:01:20.669 --> 01:01:22.190
[SPEAKER_01]: The crowd was super into it.

01:01:22.671 --> 01:01:27.596
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they basically told the story of of Okada working over Kenny's midsection.

01:01:28.176 --> 01:01:41.149
[SPEAKER_01]: throughout, you know, like they're going back and forth early, but then Kenny goes through a moon salt, Okada gets his knees up and then he starts just really working away at Omega's midsection with the diverticulitis history and all of that.

01:01:42.930 --> 01:01:45.052
[SPEAKER_01]: There were some great nearfalls in this match.

01:01:45.813 --> 01:01:53.641
[SPEAKER_01]: So it looked, you had Omega, I think you hit the one-winged angel and then Calus took the referee out of the ring, of course.

01:01:53.681 --> 01:01:54.962
[SPEAKER_01]: And we were getting into it.

01:01:55.002 --> 01:02:00.247
[SPEAKER_01]: We're screaming, God damn you, John Calus and stuff.

01:02:00.387 --> 01:02:04.311
[SPEAKER_01]: Aubrey Edwards ends up running out to take the place of the referee.

01:02:05.372 --> 01:02:10.774
[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end, yeah, we get the rainmaker and Ocata wins.

01:02:11.174 --> 01:02:14.495
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, like I said at the beginning, don't have a problem with this.

01:02:14.736 --> 01:02:15.696
[SPEAKER_01]: Could have gone either way.

01:02:16.536 --> 01:02:17.637
[SPEAKER_01]: Really, really good match.

01:02:17.877 --> 01:02:20.958
[SPEAKER_01]: Not the best of their history, but I didn't expect that going in.

01:02:21.318 --> 01:02:22.498
[SPEAKER_01]: I expected a really good match.

01:02:22.518 --> 01:02:23.299
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we got.

01:02:23.819 --> 01:02:25.159
[SPEAKER_01]: Jim Ross was on commentary.

01:02:25.860 --> 01:02:29.201
[SPEAKER_01]: Justin, you predicted that live that they were going to send him out there for it, and there he was.

01:02:30.553 --> 01:02:34.094
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was, yeah, just good all around.

01:02:34.294 --> 01:02:50.957
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, uh, I think the perfect placement on the card, again, just for the fact of giving us, uh, scared babies a better feeling about hangman winning that they weren't going to close the show with two hills winning the big matches.

01:02:51.017 --> 01:02:54.798
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was a relief to see actually, uh, Okada winning this match.

01:02:55.650 --> 01:02:58.376
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we were first certain that Hangman was winning.

01:02:58.496 --> 01:03:01.582
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no way they're going to have two heels close out the show winning.

01:03:02.596 --> 01:03:07.180
[SPEAKER_00]: If somebody was watching a lot of the Yomego Cata matches, I'm hoping that this one's as good as the third one was.

01:03:07.740 --> 01:03:11.964
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, that one was G one and it was under, there's like, twenty five minutes.

01:03:12.064 --> 01:03:13.265
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe this one has a chance.

01:03:14.045 --> 01:03:16.047
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not that was my favorite of all of them.

01:03:16.547 --> 01:03:16.888
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

01:03:17.308 --> 01:03:17.568
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:03:17.808 --> 01:03:18.269
[SPEAKER_01]: I liked it.

01:03:18.289 --> 01:03:18.849
[SPEAKER_01]: It was shorter.

01:03:19.049 --> 01:03:19.870
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was a sprint.

01:03:20.351 --> 01:03:22.012
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I said that on the show at the time.

01:03:22.032 --> 01:03:24.774
[SPEAKER_01]: And I really liked the G one match a lot.

01:03:25.054 --> 01:03:27.076
[SPEAKER_00]: But I was not sure what's my favorite.

01:03:27.516 --> 01:03:28.497
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wouldn't.

01:03:29.618 --> 01:03:31.479
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't put it at that level.

01:03:31.920 --> 01:03:36.282
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a step below for sure, but it's coming in at least four stars for me.

01:03:36.963 --> 01:03:38.564
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's all in.

01:03:38.764 --> 01:03:40.805
[SPEAKER_01]: We hit every match as quickly as we could.

01:03:40.885 --> 01:03:48.670
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't talk about the three pre show matches, but in the interest of time, I got a couple other topics to hit and then we got to hit the road you guys.

01:03:48.770 --> 01:03:51.512
[SPEAKER_01]: So Saturday nights made event.

01:03:52.687 --> 01:03:54.607
[SPEAKER_01]: Justin was thrilled to watch this one.

01:03:55.088 --> 01:03:55.948
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you watched it.

01:03:56.588 --> 01:03:58.168
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anyone watched this, except me.

01:03:58.768 --> 01:03:59.789
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a second of it.

01:04:00.149 --> 01:04:00.869
[SPEAKER_00]: And Ryan Huffman.

01:04:01.589 --> 01:04:02.489
[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan Huffman watched it.

01:04:02.829 --> 01:04:03.509
[SPEAKER_00]: All those Ryan's.

01:04:03.529 --> 01:04:07.870
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you, I'm sure Kyle Ryan did too.

01:04:08.111 --> 01:04:09.791
[SPEAKER_01]: I freeze through it this morning.

01:04:09.891 --> 01:04:11.131
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't watch it last night.

01:04:11.331 --> 01:04:13.192
[SPEAKER_01]: I just going from all into that show.

01:04:13.252 --> 01:04:16.953
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, they're totally different feels to the products.

01:04:17.033 --> 01:04:18.333
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a different product.

01:04:19.153 --> 01:04:23.816
[SPEAKER_01]: They had a big crowd in Atlanta, AEW, blend into the start of that show.

01:04:23.836 --> 01:04:25.837
[SPEAKER_01]: I think an hour of it ended up going head to head.

01:04:25.857 --> 01:04:27.017
[SPEAKER_01]: That was WWE's choice.

01:04:28.038 --> 01:04:31.440
[SPEAKER_01]: WWE booked this show to go head to head with all in or the tail end of all in.

01:04:32.160 --> 01:04:36.102
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't watch NXT Great American Vashit actually went head to head with all in.

01:04:36.242 --> 01:04:38.444
[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize, but I did watch, sorry, nice main event.

01:04:39.744 --> 01:04:40.385
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know,

01:04:41.452 --> 01:04:46.414
[SPEAKER_01]: Overall, other than the Seth injury, it's pretty much what you would expect going in.

01:04:46.974 --> 01:04:49.775
[SPEAKER_01]: I can run through the results here just a second.

01:04:50.495 --> 01:04:55.617
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just talk about the Seth Rollins injury because it happened like five or six minutes into his match with LA night.

01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:00.842
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously Seth has had some unfortunate injuries in the past.

01:05:00.862 --> 01:05:05.665
[SPEAKER_01]: He's Torres ACL, the ZMCLs, and Maniska's basically everything you can do in that leg.

01:05:06.545 --> 01:05:14.510
[SPEAKER_01]: And he did this spot where he did a diving springboard front senton onto LA night.

01:05:15.510 --> 01:05:30.851
[SPEAKER_01]: and his leg kind of like curled under him a little bit but then he did a springboard moon salt right after that and landed on his feet and it looked like his leg gave a little bit and immediately goes into the corner and you could tell it's not part of the show.

01:05:31.760 --> 01:05:34.402
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's talking to the referee, he's talking to a physician.

01:05:34.422 --> 01:05:37.765
[SPEAKER_01]: And LA night knows not really knowing what to do.

01:05:37.945 --> 01:05:43.349
[SPEAKER_01]: And ultimately Seth decides to continue the match, but he immediately takes the fall.

01:05:43.389 --> 01:05:43.969
[SPEAKER_01]: It gets pinned.

01:05:44.049 --> 01:05:45.090
[SPEAKER_01]: That was an audible.

01:05:45.731 --> 01:05:50.514
[SPEAKER_01]: Rollins was going to win this match and make no sense for Rollins to lose to LA night, but he knew he was hurt.

01:05:50.815 --> 01:05:51.775
[SPEAKER_01]: He knew it was serious.

01:05:52.236 --> 01:05:53.036
[SPEAKER_01]: So credit to him for

01:05:54.177 --> 01:05:54.898
[SPEAKER_01]: taking the pinfall.

01:05:55.698 --> 01:05:57.880
[SPEAKER_01]: In the moment, we don't have an exact update.

01:05:57.920 --> 01:05:59.561
[SPEAKER_01]: People are speculating it's ACL.

01:05:59.601 --> 01:06:00.242
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know for sure.

01:06:00.262 --> 01:06:05.266
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't heard anything, but it was a legitimate injury and Seth's going to be out for months.

01:06:06.006 --> 01:06:13.672
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is significantly obviously going to alter what they had planned and creative with him being the money in the bank holder and all of that.

01:06:14.112 --> 01:06:18.116
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the faction that he's running right now and you do they have someone else get the money in the bank.

01:06:18.176 --> 01:06:19.477
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what direction they're going to go.

01:06:20.259 --> 01:06:23.841
[SPEAKER_01]: but a really, really unfortunate situation of Seth Rollins.

01:06:23.881 --> 01:06:29.523
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, we've, at times on the show, not been huge fans of what they've done with his character, but I think it's a wrestler.

01:06:30.544 --> 01:06:35.806
[SPEAKER_01]: We all enjoy watching him work, and this is obviously gonna hurt the product.

01:06:36.506 --> 01:06:43.530
[SPEAKER_01]: I was, I've set on the show many times in the last few weeks that I like what they're doing with the faction, with Bronn, and Bronnson, and Hayman,

01:06:44.620 --> 01:06:46.922
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to change the trajectory of that.

01:06:46.942 --> 01:06:49.164
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll have to see what happens, but it's legitimate.

01:06:49.344 --> 01:06:51.126
[SPEAKER_01]: Seth's going to be out for several months.

01:06:51.446 --> 01:06:53.108
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like, unfortunately.

01:06:55.249 --> 01:06:59.353
[SPEAKER_01]: Jimmy Uso challenged Solosacoa for the US title.

01:06:59.413 --> 01:07:00.134
[SPEAKER_01]: No surprise.

01:07:00.194 --> 01:07:03.537
[SPEAKER_01]: Solo won lots of interference from bloodline three point.

01:07:03.557 --> 01:07:03.857
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:07:04.458 --> 01:07:06.279
[SPEAKER_01]: Jacob Fattu gets out there.

01:07:08.021 --> 01:07:08.701
[SPEAKER_01]: They have the

01:07:10.361 --> 01:07:14.642
[SPEAKER_01]: Talatanga and Jacob Fatu face off, whatever.

01:07:14.702 --> 01:07:18.003
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, all expected there, but yeah, solo retains the US title.

01:07:19.204 --> 01:07:27.306
[SPEAKER_01]: If this is your cup of tea, Randy Orton and Drew McIntyre without there, yes indeed, you got jelly roll with Randy Orton.

01:07:28.077 --> 01:07:30.941
[SPEAKER_01]: He got Logan Paul out there with Drew McIntyre.

01:07:31.421 --> 01:07:33.163
[SPEAKER_01]: I can see the excitement and just in space.

01:07:33.204 --> 01:07:34.745
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to say, I could see you fall asleep.

01:07:37.028 --> 01:07:46.020
[SPEAKER_01]: He's setting up the tag match for Summerslam where Randy Orton is going to team with jelly roll against Drew McIntyre and Logan Paul.

01:07:47.115 --> 01:07:49.897
[SPEAKER_01]: And I got to tell you from the show that we were just covering.

01:07:50.217 --> 01:07:51.938
[SPEAKER_01]: This is quite the downgrade.

01:07:52.658 --> 01:07:55.140
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they do this celebrity stuff.

01:07:55.300 --> 01:07:56.120
[SPEAKER_01]: It is what it is.

01:07:56.140 --> 01:08:01.683
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't imagine looking forward to seeing jelly roll wrestle, but if that's your cup of tea, there you go.

01:08:02.784 --> 01:08:09.348
[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of if it's your cup of tea, going through a defendant of the World Heavyweight title against fifty eight year old Bill Goldberg,

01:08:10.463 --> 01:08:18.765
[SPEAKER_01]: who lumbered out there, limping in his entrance before you had Gunther work over his leg with the knee brace on it throughout the match.

01:08:19.625 --> 01:08:23.506
[SPEAKER_01]: Gunther did this face off of Goldberg's son at ringside.

01:08:24.906 --> 01:08:29.087
[SPEAKER_01]: Then the referee gets taken out by an inadvertent spear.

01:08:29.227 --> 01:08:32.928
[SPEAKER_01]: This was Charles Robinson, so you get a replacement referee out there.

01:08:33.966 --> 01:08:36.968
[SPEAKER_01]: You got Gunther using the knee brace on Goldberg.

01:08:37.828 --> 01:08:41.450
[SPEAKER_01]: And ultimately, Gunther did take the jackhammer at one point.

01:08:41.710 --> 01:08:42.931
[SPEAKER_01]: I will call that out.

01:08:43.251 --> 01:08:45.412
[SPEAKER_01]: He hit the jackhammer and didn't injure him this time.

01:08:45.572 --> 01:08:48.433
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that catastrophe to the Undertaker a few years back.

01:08:49.074 --> 01:08:50.734
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually got a clean jackhammer out there.

01:08:51.015 --> 01:08:53.876
[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end, Gunther chokes out Goldberg.

01:08:54.396 --> 01:08:55.217
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the finish.

01:08:55.937 --> 01:09:00.139
[SPEAKER_01]: Goldberg did a post match speech, like a retirement speech to the live crowd.

01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:01.220
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was cut off.

01:09:01.920 --> 01:09:03.962
[SPEAKER_01]: NBC went off the air during the middle of it.

01:09:05.303 --> 01:09:05.984
[SPEAKER_01]: I watch it.

01:09:06.324 --> 01:09:07.085
[SPEAKER_01]: I watch it.

01:09:07.365 --> 01:09:11.188
[SPEAKER_01]: I watch on peacock this morning thinking like maybe they got the full thing on there.

01:09:11.388 --> 01:09:11.949
[SPEAKER_01]: They did not.

01:09:13.130 --> 01:09:14.291
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they'll put it on YouTube.

01:09:14.351 --> 01:09:15.131
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they already have.

01:09:15.191 --> 01:09:15.472
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

01:09:15.512 --> 01:09:18.694
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't look, but they they cut it off on peacock.

01:09:18.714 --> 01:09:20.056
[SPEAKER_01]: They cut off his retirement speech.

01:09:21.837 --> 01:09:23.679
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys know how I feel about Delco Berg.

01:09:23.799 --> 01:09:28.062
[SPEAKER_01]: I had zero interest in this, but I watched it because I felt like I needed to watch it.

01:09:29.023 --> 01:09:30.504
[SPEAKER_01]: keep this podcast honest.

01:09:30.884 --> 01:09:31.864
[SPEAKER_01]: The match was okay.

01:09:31.884 --> 01:09:35.466
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, it wasn't Gunther's best match.

01:09:36.046 --> 01:09:37.727
[SPEAKER_01]: Goldberg was limping all over the ring.

01:09:37.967 --> 01:09:39.628
[SPEAKER_01]: He spent most of the match on his back.

01:09:41.288 --> 01:09:42.929
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen this talk out there.

01:09:43.489 --> 01:09:45.170
[SPEAKER_01]: Goldberg's best match in years.

01:09:45.210 --> 01:09:49.312
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he hasn't wrestled in three years, but that's a really low bar.

01:09:51.270 --> 01:09:52.912
[SPEAKER_01]: This is like a two-sum star match.

01:09:53.012 --> 01:09:53.472
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not.

01:09:53.732 --> 01:09:54.493
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not good.

01:09:54.533 --> 01:09:55.674
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just kind of there.

01:09:55.754 --> 01:09:57.335
[SPEAKER_01]: They got the spots in.

01:09:57.355 --> 01:09:59.177
[SPEAKER_01]: They got the face off with Goldberg's son.

01:09:59.217 --> 01:10:00.317
[SPEAKER_01]: They got the Jack Hammer in.

01:10:00.338 --> 01:10:01.198
[SPEAKER_01]: They got the spear in.

01:10:01.218 --> 01:10:02.099
[SPEAKER_01]: They got the choke out.

01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:03.440
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:08.424
[SPEAKER_02]: Have we gotten any footage of Brett Hart in the truck cutting the feed and the show?

01:10:09.565 --> 01:10:10.526
[SPEAKER_01]: Brett Hart's revenge.

01:10:13.108 --> 01:10:14.509
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was, again.

01:10:15.823 --> 01:10:16.403
[SPEAKER_01]: I watched it.

01:10:16.884 --> 01:10:18.024
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't excited about it.

01:10:18.224 --> 01:10:21.646
[SPEAKER_01]: I was sure thankful that Gunther won and they didn't do a title change year.

01:10:22.427 --> 01:10:24.928
[SPEAKER_01]: Goldberg looked his age to me.

01:10:25.008 --> 01:10:37.955
[SPEAKER_01]: He was he was limping quite noticeably right from the start, right from when they do his entrance, you know, with the crowd coming up, you know, all his buddies Doug DeLinger was there, his son, and everybody through the back, doing the whole on-drush thing.

01:10:38.115 --> 01:10:38.836
[SPEAKER_01]: He was limping that.

01:10:39.554 --> 01:10:44.239
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the match had to go a little bit longer because of LA night and Seth Rollins with the unfortunate injury.

01:10:44.459 --> 01:10:46.921
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm assuming they probably had to double at the time.

01:10:47.221 --> 01:10:49.564
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was like a thirteen or fourteen minute match.

01:10:49.844 --> 01:10:52.286
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe something like that.

01:10:52.326 --> 01:10:56.751
[SPEAKER_01]: So longer than I expected, but a lot again, a lot of it was Goldberg on his back selling.

01:10:56.811 --> 01:10:59.333
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't like they did a lot of athletic stuff.

01:10:59.413 --> 01:11:01.455
[SPEAKER_01]: Nor did you expect that going in.

01:11:02.767 --> 01:11:04.628
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it was fine.

01:11:04.828 --> 01:11:06.949
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't a greedously bad or anything like that.

01:11:06.989 --> 01:11:10.672
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just right winter at Land of Crowd got to see their hometown.

01:11:10.732 --> 01:11:13.393
[SPEAKER_01]: Here are one last time and now we can move on, hopefully.

01:11:13.733 --> 01:11:16.715
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what fifty one percent of the WWE universe wanted.

01:11:16.795 --> 01:11:17.295
[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome.

01:11:18.976 --> 01:11:19.136
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:11:21.059 --> 01:11:21.539
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's it.

01:11:21.559 --> 01:11:22.500
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a very nice made event.

01:11:22.540 --> 01:11:28.104
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we'll be talking about Seth and any updates on his condition moving forward.

01:11:28.164 --> 01:11:31.907
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, as I said, it's legitimate people thought it was part of the show.

01:11:32.007 --> 01:11:37.411
[SPEAKER_01]: I think at first, although, you know, it would have made sense for him to just lose clean to LA night like that if it was part of the show.

01:11:37.992 --> 01:11:40.493
[SPEAKER_01]: If you watch it, I mean, it's just he's off in the corner.

01:11:40.974 --> 01:11:41.994
[SPEAKER_01]: He's talking to people.

01:11:42.315 --> 01:11:45.097
[SPEAKER_01]: He says continue and then he immediately loses.

01:11:46.321 --> 01:11:49.382
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we had WB evolution tonight.

01:11:50.183 --> 01:11:56.786
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about that next week and on the flagship of anything notable happens or Jesse might cover it on unplugged for patrons this week.

01:11:57.886 --> 01:11:58.367
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

01:11:58.707 --> 01:12:01.468
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of pro wrestling to discuss in an hour and twelve minutes, you guys.

01:12:03.342 --> 01:12:12.145
[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm looking forward to for a W moving forward is the change of forbidden door in the middle and between all in and all out so they can keep.

01:12:12.605 --> 01:12:18.427
[SPEAKER_00]: Continue with stories within AEW and the one off is placed right in the middle perfectly.

01:12:18.547 --> 01:12:22.808
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's hope that AEW can build on this momentum when in years past.

01:12:23.148 --> 01:12:27.070
[SPEAKER_00]: There's been a law from the summer to tell about October, November.

01:12:27.090 --> 01:12:30.711
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, big shows on the horizon.

01:12:32.083 --> 01:12:33.427
[SPEAKER_01]: Carl's talking about in the chat hole.

01:12:33.828 --> 01:12:37.640
[SPEAKER_01]: Dave Meltzer was questioning if the injury was legit.

01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:39.466
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw that on Twitter last night.

01:12:40.642 --> 01:12:43.184
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, according to Fightful, it's legit.

01:12:43.984 --> 01:12:49.708
[SPEAKER_01]: According to what I've heard it's legit, and I can't, I just can't even see a way you would make that a work.

01:12:49.788 --> 01:12:56.613
[SPEAKER_01]: It just doesn't make any sense the way it played out, like to just lose clean to LA night within seconds after the injury.

01:12:56.813 --> 01:12:57.833
[SPEAKER_01]: It would make no sense.

01:12:58.374 --> 01:13:01.416
[SPEAKER_01]: For everything I've heard, this is legit, unfortunately.

01:13:01.436 --> 01:13:05.939
[SPEAKER_01]: And it sucks, because I've, I've liked the character shift from Seth the last few months.

01:13:06.459 --> 01:13:08.981
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the best workers in the company, and now we're not going to have him.

01:13:11.185 --> 01:13:19.673
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, eighty five percent healthy Seth Rollins is better than ten to twenty so hopeful for a speedy recovery dido for Adam Cole.

01:13:20.474 --> 01:13:21.695
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.

01:13:22.696 --> 01:13:23.997
[SPEAKER_01]: Justin parting words this morning.

01:13:24.958 --> 01:13:25.919
[SPEAKER_01]: I love pro wrestling.

01:13:28.121 --> 01:13:28.542
[SPEAKER_01]: Me too.

01:13:28.782 --> 01:13:30.724
[SPEAKER_01]: I love enjoying pro wrestling with all of you.

01:13:30.944 --> 01:13:34.247
[SPEAKER_01]: All the listeners, all the patrons, all the co-hosts here.

01:13:35.138 --> 01:13:36.839
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a great community on top of hope nation.

01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:57.725
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01:13:59.360 --> 01:14:02.962
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright guys, well hey, we watch a lot of pro wrestling yesterday.

01:14:03.002 --> 01:14:03.983
[SPEAKER_01]: There's more tonight.

01:14:04.543 --> 01:14:07.765
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be covering it all with you in the days ahead.

01:14:07.785 --> 01:14:09.005
[SPEAKER_01]: Hope you enjoyed the show.

01:14:09.046 --> 01:14:12.407
[SPEAKER_01]: Hope you enjoyed watching AEW and WWE last night.

01:14:13.308 --> 01:14:14.709
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll be talking to you all again.

01:14:14.909 --> 01:14:15.349
[SPEAKER_01]: Real soon.

01:14:15.389 --> 01:14:17.570
[SPEAKER_01]: Enjoy what is remaining of your weekend.

01:14:17.590 --> 01:14:18.811
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay everybody.

01:14:19.732 --> 01:14:20.072
[SPEAKER_01]: Peace.