AEW Blood and Guts Disappoints?! Full Gear Build Pros and Cons

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0:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Just south of me. [SPEAKER_02]: Doing good, whether is not looking too bad, which is great because I have a ton of yard work and winterizing. [SPEAKER_02]: I have to get done today. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, leaves. [SPEAKER_02]: leaves I'm not so much worried about. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll just mow those up, but a lot of wild flowers and sunflowers I need to get taken down and all the stuff on my porch needs to get put away. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's good. [SPEAKER_03]: Take you some time. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Big day. [SPEAKER_03]: Just can't help you at all. [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think so. [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: Every once in a while I can get him to pick up sticks, but that is about the extent of it.

1:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and I also get to break down boxes. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, what type, like from what? [SPEAKER_02]: Amazon boxes from my wife, sure anybody out there who is married also has this similar curse. [SPEAKER_03]: Every other day, here comes something from Amazon. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure if you're a bad husband, one of the circles of hell is you're breaking down cardboard boxes and you look behind you to the stack and it just keeps getting bigger. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I can completely picture that. [SPEAKER_03]: Glad at this moment, I don't have that issue, but I'm sure that'll be very, very soon. [SPEAKER_03]: All right, well, we're not going to bore you too much longer about what's happening in the fall of here in Minnesota and Iowa.

2:11 [SPEAKER_03]: So first things, first, we're gonna run. [SPEAKER_03]: Our ticker as you know this is top rope nation and TRN or top rope nation dot com slash patreon is where patreon dot com slash top rope nation is where you can support us We have lovely people down below scrolling here on YouTube. [SPEAKER_03]: So again, if you catch this and Spotify form or believe it's apple form [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, those will also be in the notes. [SPEAKER_03]: You can come support us for only $5 a month again. [SPEAKER_03]: You mean, if you've been listening to us for years, me three and a half, just in for about 10. [SPEAKER_03]: Ryan for about 10 and a half. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you definitely know what we're all about. [SPEAKER_03]: We have been doing this for quite a while.

2:52 [SPEAKER_03]: And quite frankly, we love the work that we do. [SPEAKER_03]: We hope that you do as well. [SPEAKER_03]: Ryan is currently in Chicago. [SPEAKER_03]: I know that cash the Bears play tonight in Chicago. [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm sure he's, I don't know, maybe he'll be ducking out of there before that to get home for school. [SPEAKER_03]: But he will be doing some Chicago Bears post game stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: That is where he currently is at the moment. [SPEAKER_03]: All right. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go over what we're going to be discussing today. [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to give you a brief synopsis of what our thoughts were for a W blood and guts and then we are going to hit on the full gear card as as is currently constructed with seven matches coming to you in the next Saturday night from air Phoenix, Arizona.

3:33 [SPEAKER_03]: So just since first things first, AEW blood and guts, I guess overall thoughts, did you enjoy it. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, well, Jesse, I have a feeling we're going to be in the minority here, especially when it comes to like our discord group. [SPEAKER_02]: Um, it was fine. [SPEAKER_02]: It was just okay. [SPEAKER_02]: I think they were sub three star matches. [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it's just it's one of those things that. [SPEAKER_02]: It's not for me, you know, I grew up with the original war games and those were popping up at a pretty vital age for me and so to me that's the baseline of a war games and I find myself with the modern day ones.

4:20 [SPEAKER_02]: just kind of drifting out of the match because it's it's diminishing returns with the violence and gore because it goes on so long where just to me it means less and less and [SPEAKER_02]: There's also a bit of, and I don't necessarily even dislike this part of it, it can often just kind of take me out of the match is with all the comedy bits, it's like this is war games, this is supposed to be, you know, personal, they're supposed to be real issue and that's the other problem. [SPEAKER_02]: for me with these war games is the lack of build in the lack of personal issue between these teams that just I I'm not really invested in it at all going in and that hurts when I actually view it but you know I haven't said that like I said I think we're in the minority I believe I know where you stand on it you'll tell everybody here in a second but it was a hit you know it was a hit with the majority of fans and it was a hit in the rating so who gives a shit what I say [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know we're like two of 800,000 people who watched it, so I mean, at least we close to a million.

5:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's it's pretty amazing what they did on that Wednesday night. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, there were the women's match first and foremost, like some of the spots was like, Oh, man, they're like, they're going for it. [SPEAKER_03]: And I applaud a lot of the things done in that ring. [SPEAKER_03]: Like Megan Bane was a, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Good, Lord, even the first five minutes, just looking like I think I mentioned this to somebody earlier, the movie carry. [SPEAKER_03]: Just absolute crimson mask for probably three quarters of the match, just an absolute trooper. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there are some individual efforts that you could definitely applaud, yet as I mentioned, and Justin just said, what's the investment here?

6:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Like who did the most astrly thing to whom leading up to this blood and guts in my answer? [SPEAKER_03]: Because the brawling birds and divine dominion have been feuding for like two and a half three months, they've already done their kind of Texas death match version of it at all out, which we definitely enjoyed in the time, which was better than this, in my opinion. [SPEAKER_03]: I thought so as well, and I mean a lot of the majority probably didn't, but [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like the triangle of madness and the and divine dominion had just wrestled like two or three weeks ago against each other. [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, well, aren't they supposed, why are they teaming? [SPEAKER_03]: Like what, what are they coming together for in terms of a common goal to take out whom?

6:55 [SPEAKER_03]: And then the weirdest thing was Persephone and Queen Ammonata being added in and like neither, they looked so out of place. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, to me. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how you felt. [SPEAKER_02]: same, same. [SPEAKER_02]: It just, yeah, none of it really connected for me. [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, unless you're buying into why these ladies and these men want to carry each other apart in this cage, then it's not going to really hit. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: But again, I mean, I'll shout out some individual performances as well alongside. [SPEAKER_03]: So Chris Stattlander, I mean, I felt she had a couple of moments where it was just super eye-opening sky blue. [SPEAKER_03]: Who I think this is almost become kind of her her custom spot now where she's just going to just go for it all.

7:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Took a couple of barbed wire shots on the outside. [SPEAKER_03]: Pretty stuck to her. [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm, right in the bottom that looked yeah, that looked absolutely heinous Lean across and press me quite a bit. [SPEAKER_03]: I love the the no-sell of the cane shots And I thought it was kind of cute to see Harley came and break out the Jeff Garrett Gerard guitars Like some of the spots were fine [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, this is the investment in it. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the, the, the guitar switcheru, the chocolate kisses with the can lid and most erroneous of all was the net. [SPEAKER_02]: Pro wrestling is now at least over to with net spots. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just absolutely horrid.

8:23 [SPEAKER_03]: I completely forgot about that Techlet net spot. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it took her maybe seven seconds to finally fire it. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if that was bad. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, having said that, I've been complaining the entire time, but I will say I thought the women's blood and guts was much, much, much better than the men's. [SPEAKER_02]: It felt closer to what the essence of a war games is, the brutality of it, just kind of the straight up violence without outside of the net and that kind of crap, but felt much closer to one of war games should be. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely, no, to me. [SPEAKER_03]: No, I completely agree. [SPEAKER_03]: I felt that the women's match was definitely better than the men's match. [SPEAKER_03]: So right after I watched that match, and I was like, it's okay.

9:07 [SPEAKER_03]: And I looked and they said the women's match blows away the men's. [SPEAKER_03]: I saw that online and I go, oh no, what am I in for the men's match? [SPEAKER_03]: And got ended up being a six on six affair with the Don Callis family getting the W there was definitely more story involved here with their a pope Justin you're kind of looking at me like [SPEAKER_02]: No, I agree. [SPEAKER_02]: I go ahead and finish your thought and I'll jump in. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: There's a little more story involved here than the women's match was, but it definitely wasn't enough to kind of warrant it. [SPEAKER_03]: So like Will Osprey, Adam Copeland, Steve Borden, Darby Allen, can't even remember the other two right now for the life of me. [SPEAKER_03]: This is pretty nice. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's the think about it. [SPEAKER_02]: Kevin Knight.

9:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, on the other side. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's kind of like a little Kyle Fletcher because each cocaught a Davis Doyle. [SPEAKER_03]: The young bucks were our other competitors where they, again, broke out and said kind of their trope from five years ago, busting out the Nike's loaded with thumbtacks, the exploding. [SPEAKER_03]: What was it the exploding trash can or no exploding backpack on the wall Kevin night kind of running for his life and like jumping into the other ring. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was it was fun. [SPEAKER_03]: However, again, where where was the overall where was the brutality in this Oh, caught up for the second year in a row in a war games match or blood and guts was the comedic just Mr. comedy.

10:30 [SPEAKER_03]: taking a leaf blower and blowing the thumb tax out of the rink, which I honestly, I popped, I thought it was cool, but that's not exactly the presentation you want, I think, in this situation. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he comes in with a leaf blower and blows away the tax, but then later on puts on a tack covered sleeve to deliver a rainmaker. [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, which rainmaker are we getting here? [SPEAKER_02]: So there's definitely personal issues because you have the Don Calls family and they've been feuding with everybody involved here. [SPEAKER_02]: I apologize, I can't give the person credit, but somebody posted online and I can't stop looking at the match this way because of what they said.

11:15 [SPEAKER_02]: But they said someone online said it felt more like an ad for full gear. [SPEAKER_02]: which is kind of my entire problem with it. [SPEAKER_02]: It felt like it existed for one because it's on the calendar in two to promote full gear. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it just, again, just very unnecessary match that kind of took me out of it. [SPEAKER_02]: But other than that, there was a lot of good stuff. [SPEAKER_02]: Darby was absolutely incredible as usual. [SPEAKER_02]: Please everybody appreciate him while he's here that chair flip spot into the Kyle Fletcher knee was absolutely amazing and I liked the finish. [SPEAKER_02]: I like the story they told at the end. [SPEAKER_02]: It was just the entire middle portion that took me out of it.

11:57 [SPEAKER_02]: But I thought, honestly, and anybody who's been listening to us knows I am not a big Copeland fan. [SPEAKER_02]: He was one of the highlights in this match for me. [SPEAKER_02]: I thought him to selling not only the match with some fantastic chair shots, but the story at the end. [SPEAKER_02]: I thought he was pretty fantastic, but one more little nitpick I got on this. [SPEAKER_02]: We had Kyle Fletcher coming out first for his team. [SPEAKER_02]: That I do not have a problem with. [SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to become the clear leader of the Don Cals family. [SPEAKER_02]: But he has a match with Will Osprey. [SPEAKER_02]: The baby face, rural champion, at full gear. [SPEAKER_02]: And Will Osprey came out last, which is kind of like, wait, what?

12:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Like shouldn't our baby face want to be getting, you know, at least get in there sooner, rather than wait until the very end when you're trying to get your hands on a fletcher. [SPEAKER_02]: So that was just kind of an again, a minor nitpick that one of mattered if I actually enjoyed the match more. [SPEAKER_02]: And one of us, I still enjoyed it for the most part. [SPEAKER_02]: It just doesn't land with me the same as it does with others. [SPEAKER_03]: This is a Justin joint takeray here. [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm borrowing it. [SPEAKER_03]: He's actually going to pay him after the show's over. [SPEAKER_03]: what takes me out of it just like you is that you once the match is technically officially starts. [SPEAKER_03]: So it takes like 20 minutes to get there.

13:21 [SPEAKER_03]: They're still going another 25 minutes. [SPEAKER_03]: Good lord. [SPEAKER_03]: And in the old war games matches, they ended within five to seven minutes after everybody had been in the ring because there was just so much punishment being incorporated instead of everybody trying to get their spots in. [SPEAKER_02]: because the entire first part mattered and it doesn't anymore in the modern mortgames. [SPEAKER_02]: Which is fine, you know, things pass us by. [SPEAKER_02]: The older we get, and I'm envious of the people that can still really get into these modern mortgames, but it's just not for me. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I saw some comparisons to some of them. [SPEAKER_03]: And I've never seen them.

14:02 [SPEAKER_03]: I think CZW is done a few of these in like the late 2000s and AEW is kind of leaning in that direction, almost more than what WCW is doing. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, okay, I mean, I suppose that makes sense, but it's just not for this person right here. [SPEAKER_02]: Now, all my nitpicks and complaining aside, the entire middle portion of blood and guts, I thought was absolutely phenomenal, building up for matches at full of gear. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't wanna just race by the men's blood and guts if you've got more to say about it, but I just wanted to make it clear like the show itself, I thought it was fantastic. [SPEAKER_02]: Did what it needed to do?

14:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'll just go through like two to three more things about the men's war games and then we'll definitely hit on the middle, which is going to just ramp in perfectly to what we're going to talk about at the end. [SPEAKER_03]: Darby Allen running the New York City marathon on Sunday. [SPEAKER_02]: Slowly I live in his best. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was like a five and a half hour marathon, which is like a third twice as fast as I will. [SPEAKER_03]: I know training. [SPEAKER_03]: So I think the guy is yeah, he's living his best life. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, so. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we were thoughts on the final spot with Wardlow throwing Darby Allen off the cage.

15:26 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like, was that necessary? [SPEAKER_03]: Because this is probably like the 111th most memorable Darby Allen spot in his A.W. [SPEAKER_02]: career. [SPEAKER_02]: It worked on me because I was terrified as it looked like he was almost going to miss all those tables. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he hit like basically one of them out of four. [SPEAKER_02]: So, but yeah, I think it worked with the story that, you know, the ruthlessness of the Don [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't want these youngsters getting hurt and bledger ordered Derby to get tossed anyway. [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I think it totally worked in the story and frankly, fledger Osprey kind of needs a little bit of juice to it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which I mean, we're going to definitely hit on that here coming up in in a moment, but yeah, Kyle Fletcher with that skewer driver in hand, just threatening to impale Osprey, Copeland taps out as Ocata is choking him from the outs.

16:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Please, it was the outside of the ring. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Darby snuck out of the of the cage. [SPEAKER_03]: That was a chase [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was good. [SPEAKER_03]: So small. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and some of those other bombs he took. [SPEAKER_03]: Like same thing with Chris that land or both of them were thrown into the cage and they fell right in between the ring and the cage and it that looked brutal. [SPEAKER_03]: I think both of them. [SPEAKER_02]: The great goodness. [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah outside of that. [SPEAKER_03]: which was also a very impressive athletic feat, but yeah, overall the war games were, or excuse me, blood and guts was like an hour and a half worth of the content.

17:09 [SPEAKER_03]: We had about another hour in between, which Justin alluded to, let's hit on it now, setting up what's happening for full gear. [SPEAKER_03]: with this is the big one I almost feel is the good, the bad, the ugly, that's Bandito, a Brody King, and hangman out in page with sort of strickland and the new level. [SPEAKER_03]: How did Bandito come off to you in this? [SPEAKER_02]: Fantastic. [SPEAKER_02]: This entire angle is just... [SPEAKER_02]: absolutely clicking with me. [SPEAKER_02]: And even to that point, my negativity about blood and guts aside, all the stories with AEW right now. [SPEAKER_02]: I think are just like full steam ahead. [SPEAKER_02]: They are doing some fantastic work.

17:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And this might be the best of it. [SPEAKER_02]: The Swarve new level in Hangman and Bro Dito. [SPEAKER_02]: Bandito was fantastic on the show. [SPEAKER_02]: I especially loved the [SPEAKER_02]: I thought Creed was absolutely fantastic. [SPEAKER_02]: They're just the way they got around to the Texas death. [SPEAKER_02]: Death magic I thought was pretty inventive. [SPEAKER_02]: Really good stuff. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean with treating coffee coming from the other organization and they're like, yeah, after this, we got family. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this isn't, it isn't that serious to us. [SPEAKER_03]: We actually appreciate, we're a little, we appreciate Brandido and Brody King.

18:32 [SPEAKER_03]: And even a little bit hangman. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she don't, we don't dislike them. [SPEAKER_03]: We actually have a lot of respect for them. [SPEAKER_03]: We came here to prove ourselves in that aspect. [SPEAKER_03]: And Swarb Strictlin was absolutely having none of it. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, with last week's time, I might leaving Brandido in a pool of blood. [SPEAKER_03]: And I believe his mask was removed. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, his hair was covering his face up and just left in his own to his own devices and like you mentioned Bandito afterward in the back like pleading he's like no this this is this is this is it I've had enough It's time for Texas death and hangman was just look at him like this is gonna take some years off your life This is gonna leave you scarred. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you know the the magnitude that we're about to go through Here we are [SPEAKER_03]: How are they going to pull this off with six guys?

19:18 [SPEAKER_03]: What's the role going to be for this? [SPEAKER_02]: And especially with, you know, we just had blood and guts, there's going to be anarchy in the arena and we're getting a Texas death match is like, man, I hope we're not going to be too desensitized by the time this match rolls around. [SPEAKER_02]: And the other odd thing is the rooting interest. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not really sure who we're supposed to be rooting for. [SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's just your own personal taste and probably for a lot of it, just hoping for a great match. [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. [SPEAKER_03]: I owe a out of the six. [SPEAKER_03]: I only feel there's one heal in this. [SPEAKER_03]: It's sort of strictly swear. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: Yep. [SPEAKER_02]: And my assumption is this will probably be the end of their union. [SPEAKER_02]: Swerve in the new new level.

19:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess I'll just make my might my vote now is going to be for hangman and brodi do [SPEAKER_03]: I know like I said I wouldn't love I'm looking forward to seeing like how what the rules are going to be for this Do all three men have to be counted out to ten is it just one I didn't think right [SPEAKER_03]: This is going to be, I wouldn't necessarily say it's not convoluted. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just a little confusing to me, like how they're going to kind of pull this presentation off. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the six men have now been involved. [SPEAKER_03]: This will be their fourth, third match together. [SPEAKER_03]: But this is, they were also involved in the AWL in Trio's Battle Royal.

20:42 [SPEAKER_03]: So this has been longstanding for a while. [SPEAKER_03]: We all know about sort of in Hangman, like that's going to get ugly. [SPEAKER_03]: I think another kind of point of curiosity for me is what are what our coffee and create going to do in this situation? [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious like you, but I also have faith that they're going to put in the time to have a great match. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure they're mulling over things to do. [SPEAKER_02]: I guess my curiosity is how violent will they get? [SPEAKER_02]: Well, we see any juice from [SPEAKER_02]: I want to assume that we will. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

21:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't believe we've ever seen it before. [SPEAKER_02]: At least not with Kofi. [SPEAKER_03]: No. [SPEAKER_03]: No, we really haven't. [SPEAKER_03]: And that's what I'm saying. [SPEAKER_03]: Like some of these people that have come over. [SPEAKER_03]: It just from the WWE when they've gotten these in these scenarios. [SPEAKER_03]: Like even a Tony Storm for example. [SPEAKER_03]: Like when she's just, yeah, she is not afraid to cut open a vein for. [SPEAKER_03]: For the right story in the right circumstances, like the whole Mariah May feud was just turned out to be a bloodbath, I think, in a couple of matches and even the presentation when Mariah had won the Owen Hart trophy back in 2024 with the shoe and the turn in the story in the way was presented, like blood was definitely...

22:03 [SPEAKER_03]: warranted in that situation. [SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's they're going to make it warranted in this scenario. [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, Kofi and Creed, I just I can't picture right now. [SPEAKER_03]: So I think that's going to I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to like elevate and heightened this match for me as a whole might be might be my most anticipated match of the of the night possibly. [SPEAKER_03]: It's up there. [SPEAKER_02]: I think I would concur. [SPEAKER_02]: I agree. [SPEAKER_03]: well, and also in the middle of it, this is kind of an interesting one, and I don't know where to necessarily, yeah, where this is going to go.

22:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Mercedes, Monet, and Marina should fear. [SPEAKER_03]: What do your thoughts on Marina should fear right now? [SPEAKER_02]: I think she's fantastic. [SPEAKER_02]: It is unfortunate that I think the thing that has kind of elevated her, it was passing and how she handled that. [SPEAKER_02]: was incredibly noble and I don't think she's got a prayer of beating Mercedes Monet, but the buildup has been solid and I think all I really want from Marina is just a good [SPEAKER_02]: is undeniable, the way she carries herself, the issue is when the bell rings, but she's got a very different style than basically any of the other ladies, which I, something I really appreciate when you have somebody in the ring that's different from everybody else.

23:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I just hope they work well together. [SPEAKER_02]: I hope Monet can get the best out of her. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if, and this is kind of a comparison. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if Mercedes ever worked with Shayna Basler in the WWE. [SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, Shafir is kind of in a similar vein, just the striking in such. [SPEAKER_03]: So, styles definitely make great confrontations, specifically in the ring. [SPEAKER_03]: I know she fears been like working her ass off ever since John Moxley just kind of noticed or she came up to Moxley and just said, hey, teach me what you know and I mean, she's grown so much in the last two and a half years. [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, now you're in there with arguably the best overall performer from the women's side.

24:29 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Tecla, you could maybe argue too, but Mercedes has been there and she's being presented as the top woman in this division. [SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully Marina can elevate her game in the ring. [SPEAKER_03]: Because yes, I mean, call it repeatedly calling her a pussy in Mercedes just slapping her a handful of times and her just shrugging it off. [SPEAKER_03]: And now Mercedes is kind of antagonizing John [SPEAKER_03]: And actually, this is going to kind of segue brilliantly into the anarchy in the rena match. [SPEAKER_03]: What are your overall thoughts and how the cut formed a couple of weeks ago? [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think both names are pretty stupid.

25:10 [SPEAKER_02]: The last outfit and the cut. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, Jay White had issues with with the dogs for quite a while and I don't feel like they have [SPEAKER_02]: clearly explained the union between these two teams or why they got together. [SPEAKER_02]: But other than that, I think, because they are matched up with the death writers and John Moxley, who is just on another level right now, especially promo-wise, there's just nobody better than him on the mic. [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think it's even close. [SPEAKER_02]: So the story they've been telling has worked.

25:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I've just, I've got, I'm uncertain about the cut. [SPEAKER_02]: I guess is my main issue. [SPEAKER_02]: I will say the one thing I'm wondering about is we'll give kid turn. [SPEAKER_03]: we'll see. [SPEAKER_03]: I think there are no, I mean, I know for a fact, like Jay White is a million times better. [SPEAKER_03]: He will be as a baby face. [SPEAKER_02]: I agree. [SPEAKER_02]: Totally agree. [SPEAKER_03]: So it's great that he's going back to this type of presentation and gave kid as well. [SPEAKER_03]: I think for them to like, yeah, when Gabe Kid came into the ring after Finley, White, and all of them had formed, and then they just jump him kind of out of nowhere.

26:36 [SPEAKER_03]: It was just, yeah, there really wasn't a follow-up specifically with him, and that's understood because it's kind of a minor part of the story. [SPEAKER_03]: So what you're talking about right now is very valid. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe Gabe Kid does join forces and he ends up helping. [SPEAKER_03]: the cut when the match because this is a group that I think maybe at this point kind of needs to be presented as a little bit of a bigger threat in the grand scheme of things because it's what do they do after this is the big question. [SPEAKER_03]: Like I think now maybe you can see some writing on the wall and you brought it up first I think a couple of weeks ago. [SPEAKER_03]: Jay White gets thrown into the C2.

27:21 [SPEAKER_02]: If you get to stay healthy, um, but yeah, I mean, if talking about where this all could go, if it's going to a John Moxley Gate Kid blood feud, sign me up. [SPEAKER_03]: Whew, Gabe Kid, and I don't listen to this podcast often. [SPEAKER_03]: Actually, I don't have probably two or three times a year. [SPEAKER_03]: He was on with Chris Jericho on Wednesday and actually had a really good interview. [SPEAKER_03]: Realist. [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of his, his story about where he came from in England, [SPEAKER_03]: Like kind of the whole presentation in New Japan, how he was, he felt was going to be guaranteed more after that Kenny Omega match back in black or beginning a last year, and they just kind of slept with me all this side.

28:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh. [SPEAKER_03]: Was that your match of the year last year? [SPEAKER_02]: That was close. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, well, I had caught me off guard with that one. [SPEAKER_02]: I know it was definitely way up there, definitely way up there. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then after that it there just really wasn't that follow up. [SPEAKER_03]: He got super frustrated and left the promotion because he felt that like all the work he put in and he had dropped. [SPEAKER_03]: I think he said 40 pounds in about six months because Shabbada just called him out on it and he got himself in some magnificent shape, but there just wasn't a follow up push wise. [SPEAKER_03]: So he just got frustrated and left. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, when we were kind of predicting the rest of the year out, he was someone we thought could be IWGP World Champion, you know, come the following, Wrestle Kingdom, and never really even got close to that.

28:51 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: And he can talk. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's one of the better talkers in New Japan. [SPEAKER_03]: He was my father. [SPEAKER_03]: I think now he just kind of falls in line. [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, there's definitely an opportunity for more of a character base to be built for him. [SPEAKER_03]: Just kind of let him run with the [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: With the conglomeration being added into this, that was the other thing that kind of confused me when the cut formed that night. [SPEAKER_03]: And then the other time after when they got the best of the death writers, where was the conglomeration in the scenario? [SPEAKER_03]: Like why didn't they come out to help them? [SPEAKER_03]: At that immediate moment. [SPEAKER_03]: And then Moxie cuts the promo. [SPEAKER_03]: I believe it was Wednesday. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just saying that we need you.

29:34 [SPEAKER_03]: And I usually don't need anyone or anything. [SPEAKER_02]: And it really looked like, without showing them that the conglomeration finally showed up last night on collision with Jews being attacked by someone with a fork, which Moxley gave to Orange. [SPEAKER_02]: So, and I like that the uncertainty of, you know, will the conglomeration come through and help the dethrators? [SPEAKER_03]: Moxley, like looking at Orange, he's like, I've gotten so much out of you that you didn't know was possible. [SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully getting to see a different side of him in this match would be pretty awesome. [SPEAKER_03]: What's time to one thing from collision last night, and then we'll cover the rest of full gear.

30:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Tommaso Chapa is your AEW national champion. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm applauding it. [SPEAKER_03]: Finally, defeating Andrade Elio in the mini vent. [SPEAKER_03]: The last I would say 10 seconds of it was a little bit flimsy. [SPEAKER_02]: It's good though full disclosure I haven't been able to see the majority of collision It was me my wife's tenure anniversary on Thursday so we went out for a fancy seven course dinner last night. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh Yeah, so I haven't seen it yet. [SPEAKER_02]: I am shocked by the outcome [SPEAKER_02]: Just because it felt like on draw days heading towards a world title match.

30:58 [SPEAKER_02]: So I guess in that case, you want to maybe take the title off of them. [SPEAKER_02]: Throw a bone to chopper who has been doing some great work. [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I was still very surprised by that. [SPEAKER_03]: The way that you want it, I was thinking if you want to and you set it in the all out review, protect on draw to a little bit more in this. [SPEAKER_03]: He lost clean. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so the Champa nonetheless. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, the kudos. [SPEAKER_03]: This is the guy that should be running with with some sort of championship right now and it's looking like Ilia Dragon, I'm just going to be chasing him for it and I don't know if I want that at the moment, but he also could be heading to the C2 as well, I mean, there's so many kind of possibilities that are unanswered at this point.

31:48 [SPEAKER_02]: agree. [SPEAKER_02]: Before we get too deep in the full year, I do have one more thing. [SPEAKER_02]: I would like to touch on because this person does not have an announced amount match for the show, but I'm loving the Nick Wayne thing. [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like he is finally hit on a gimmick that could get over and is very annoying in a good way, in a good professional wrestling way, not like an ex-pack way. [SPEAKER_02]: This is really work, and I think this might be the first time that Jericho has actually put somebody over. [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you saw last night's vignette with him. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I was fan flipping toastic.

32:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: He asks this girl, like in the middle of the street, hey, do you give a boyfriend? [SPEAKER_03]: He goes, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, as your boyfriend beat in Chris Jericho twice. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's getting over in a very annoying way, but it's something to have that I'm definitely enjoying. [SPEAKER_03]: I actually got to go out of his way to my way to watch his match last night. [SPEAKER_03]: He wrestled one of the top independent performers going Marcus Mathers. [SPEAKER_03]: He's been a name for about three years. [SPEAKER_03]: And I heard about him back in 2021 with a really good friend of mine who was tied in more to the indie scene than anybody I know. [SPEAKER_03]: And she said just kind of look for him at some point to sign with somebody big.

33:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Some hope that ends up being something. [SPEAKER_03]: He had a wrestling mark Davis as well on Ring of Honor on Thursday night and I heard that was very good. [SPEAKER_02]: going to have to make sure to check out that match. [SPEAKER_02]: I've not been able to watch it yet, but if this Nick Wayne thing keeps going if the momentum holds, I think he could be someone to take the TNT championship off of Derby. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: There's, oh, just think of a magnitude. [SPEAKER_03]: all of the of a victory over Darby Allen, who is had what I don't it can't even I can't even sneakily say this he is in the wrestler of the year conversation right now. [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

33:54 [SPEAKER_03]: She's a guy left and right body on the line. [SPEAKER_03]: World title run that in seven weeks was more. [SPEAKER_03]: I try to, I can't think of the word. [SPEAKER_03]: It was just, yeah, incredible to see the championship defended on a weekly basis in such bangers. [SPEAKER_02]: And the way that Nick Wayne has been able to use beating Jericho twice, just think of how he could use beating a former world champion, getting the TNT title. [SPEAKER_02]: And one of the icons of A, W. I mean, that would be, I think he could really [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that Pacific Northwest Eye. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I'm as dark as your Derby would be more than happy to drop the title to him.

34:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know. [SPEAKER_03]: Buddy Wayne trading Derby Allen, but he probably had a hand in his career at some point in time. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, pretty sure that was a story while I go. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, well, I know Nick Wayne when he was getting beat up by, I think it was sort of strickland and Christian. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that sounds great. [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: Then they ended up with that, or they're supposed to have a match I think later on down the line, but I don't remember what happened. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that's so for a really good feud. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: I, yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: I, you, I feel like each like once a month you just come out with something and then they, E, A, W, just follows the rules with it as they should.

35:19 [SPEAKER_03]: They're tapped in the podcast, I'm telling you. [SPEAKER_02]: Hope so. [SPEAKER_03]: All right, so there's a handful of matches left that we haven't talked about for full gear. [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, this was also kind of not featured in blood. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, let's get into that with blood and guts as well. [SPEAKER_03]: So young bucks are taking on Davis and Doyle for the world tag titles. [SPEAKER_03]: Davis and Doyle's outfits. [SPEAKER_03]: Did you have an immediate thought when you watch them come in the ring? [SPEAKER_02]: God wins. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was fun. [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't mind that at all. [SPEAKER_02]: uh, perfectly used in the match, just kind of toss and Darby in the box around. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh.

35:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think the story going to be told here, especially with how they set it up. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we could go. [SPEAKER_03]: We can have to go now or almost pretty much two weeks in the Davis and Doyle squashing the box in about six minutes after they had an amazing paper you match with Kevin Knight and Kyle Fletcher. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I thought that was brilliant because it's not something you see in A, W, I mean, almost ever, you know, top stars getting squashed and especially coming off the heels of the moxley and Davis story at Russell dreams like they're doing great stuff with Davis right now. [SPEAKER_02]: You're really buying into him as a monster.

36:40 [SPEAKER_03]: No, you, you really are. [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, we're, we're, we're going to assume that the bucks are going to retain here and get some measure of revenge. [SPEAKER_02]: In the only reason, I mean, I would not be shocked with the title switch. [SPEAKER_02]: I think Davis is certainly earned that, but the only reason I don't think they're going to do it is because we're heading towards bucks in new level for the tag titles. [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe revolution. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they'd hold it [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, the dynasty is now this next year thrown in the middle. [SPEAKER_03]: It's in February. [SPEAKER_03]: That's supposed to be cool. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep, that will be it's in it's in Europe. [SPEAKER_03]: Did you know that? [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's in London if I'm not mistaken.

37:23 [SPEAKER_02]: No. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh shit. [SPEAKER_02]: Where was it? [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's London. [SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm having a total green fog of words. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to have to look it up here in a moment, but I do know it's somewhere in Europe next year in February. [SPEAKER_03]: So you could even do the same while we're while I'm in a transition into the next match. [SPEAKER_03]: Brawling birds with taking on Wrathlander, Harley-Kam and Chris that lander, they were teammates in Liverpool. [SPEAKER_03]: There you go. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, what are your thoughts on that? [SPEAKER_02]: Liverpool. [SPEAKER_02]: home in the beetles.

38:05 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a great way to put it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, home in the beetles. [SPEAKER_03]: We're not going to talk about the EPL team. [SPEAKER_02]: Tottenham's been looking good. [SPEAKER_02]: They should the bed this weekend, but I'm used to it as a fan. [SPEAKER_03]: How many wins they have now? [SPEAKER_02]: Boy, you know, at the top of my head, I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: They had three straight wins, but [SPEAKER_03]: Good, get them out of relegation talk. [SPEAKER_03]: Please, just for your sake and hours. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not too worried about that right now. [SPEAKER_02]: Good. [SPEAKER_02]: Good. [SPEAKER_02]: Good. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, with a Windsor and Hater and Rathlander, there was like a little, it's like a five second window where Jamie Hater and Chris that lander kind of pushed each other inside the blood and guts match just to kind of try to set things up Rathlander had won a match.

38:53 [SPEAKER_03]: I think a month ago to get this title shot opportunity and now they're going to get it, but probably the biggest story going in full gear. [SPEAKER_03]: No, it definitely is, and then with Willow teaming up with them, and it's kind of weird how like her and Stattlander had this big old blood feud blow off with Stokely involved at one point in time. [SPEAKER_03]: And now we are looking at her kind of in the middle and siding more so with Stattlander and Harley, of course, because they were the first AEW women's tag champs. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, okay, do you believe that the fifth installment of the Motor City Machine Guns and FTR will be added to this card?

39:34 [SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah, probably probably I would think it would also be perfectly suited for a dynamite somewhere in between or coming out of, but yeah, believe we're talking pre-show that it's sitting at seven matches right now, which is not much for an AW card, which would also be nice if they just stuck with seven matches, but we will see would not surprise me at all. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, who wins? [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, great, great matches. [SPEAKER_02]: And again, I'm not much of a motor city machine guns guy. [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not as invested as in this as others, but yeah, matches have been fantastic. [SPEAKER_02]: It means FTR tag matches.

40:16 [SPEAKER_01]: mm-hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm kind of with you. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I respect what they've done in TNA and they did some work over in New Japan, which is solid for some people like they absolutely love what the most motor machine motor, Mississippi, machine guns have done over the course of their 20-year career. [SPEAKER_03]: To kind of get them in this scenario and then I think after this is over, there may be looked upon at like a [SPEAKER_03]: title situation maybe some time next fall. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think there's so many bigger things happening coming up this summer. [SPEAKER_03]: Where else are we going over this is going to be it then?

40:57 [SPEAKER_02]: We got two that I think we need to hit on. [SPEAKER_02]: Can we start with Ocada and Copeland? [SPEAKER_03]: That's the one. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go there. [SPEAKER_03]: Who you got? [SPEAKER_03]: It's got to be Ocada. [SPEAKER_03]: think so. [SPEAKER_03]: He suffered too many losses recently. [SPEAKER_03]: Really. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, a picture in losing the to offspring in France. [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's almost too many losses. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: No, I actually have this for another episode, well, maybe even do it in a couple of weeks. [SPEAKER_03]: I've been going over Kazuchka, Okada's run from December of 24 and 26 and kind of where he is being presented as right now.

41:41 [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's been clean, pin, pin, pin, clean, six, six times, so far he's been heavily protected. [SPEAKER_02]: That's great. [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess if this is going to be [SPEAKER_02]: you know, a natural feud and not a one in done. [SPEAKER_02]: I know a lot of people were thinking Ocada and Copeland in the Tokyo don't. [SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't make sense to make this to a W guys. [SPEAKER_02]: I would still assume Copeland will get a match at Wrestle Kingdom, but we will see who is opponent is. [SPEAKER_02]: I guess I do agree with you that Ocada will probably take this because my sanction is this will go for a little bit. [SPEAKER_02]: Unless they're going to go right to [SPEAKER_02]: uh, Copeland and Osprey.

42:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just waiting for that Copeland heel turn. [SPEAKER_02]: We got to get that before he retires. [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: Now let's ask this question since you brought it up. [SPEAKER_03]: Does he stay heel until his final match? [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not. [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not. [SPEAKER_02]: It'll probably be a little bit like CNN. [SPEAKER_02]: I'll just all of a sudden be like, I'm a good guy now. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's kind of, I have that stuck in my mind of like what happened to the John Cena last year and I mean, I do not want to see him as a W world champion, but if it's going to happen, it needs to happen with him as a heal. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, lots of baby faces to chase it, that's the case.

43:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so the ties in where we're going to go will aspirate Kyle Fletcher. [SPEAKER_03]: I almost feel this is too soon for Kyle Fletcher to get this type of title shot. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's too soon only because it kind of came out of nowhere that the match doesn't have the build required for this important of a title change. [SPEAKER_02]: I was pretty at peace when Hangman lost the world title. [SPEAKER_02]: I know you were hoping for a longer rain. [SPEAKER_02]: I was it didn't really bother me all that much in the moment. [SPEAKER_02]: I do think this would be too soon for Osprey to lose the title.

43:44 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, at least with Hangman, you know, that was his second reign. [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, he had that in his back pocket, you know, two-time world champion. [SPEAKER_02]: This being Osprey's first as a W-world champion, I think he needs to hold the title for a while. [SPEAKER_02]: This is a good, I mean, if you just need to have an opponent for him on a paper view that he can be. [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, who better than Flutter, you know, these two are going to, they're going to ball out. [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think it would hurt Fletcher's momentum at all. [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and honestly it could probably lead to It could tie into something bigger down the road that he could use this loss as fuel for a better story.

44:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm still in the camp rooting for him to be the next AEW World Heavyweight Champion. [SPEAKER_03]: But like you said, like nothing has been built up, I mean, ever since like a week and a half ago, it just kind of came out of nowhere. [SPEAKER_03]: He just lost a Darby Allen as well in a TNT title match, which was excellent. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely. [SPEAKER_03]: I mean Kyle Fletcher in the ring is probably one of the top three or four guys AEW has. [SPEAKER_03]: You can argue he's the best. [SPEAKER_02]: and I had forgotten he just lost to Derby. [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that'd be another one to, you know, go from losing in the last, oh wait, that was that, uh, uh, in France that he lost that one. [SPEAKER_02]: But to have, having lost not that long ago to winning a world title would be a little awkward.

45:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that's exactly why I don't. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm rooting for Will Osprey to retain here. [SPEAKER_03]: It's just, Fletcher doesn't have that momentum that he definitely should be getting at this point in time. [SPEAKER_03]: Should be, I mean, you now, if he does lose this and you can kind of use this as fuel for the next four to five months to rebuild him back and maybe give him a shot at Osprey either at Dynasty or Revolution, and potentially be the guy to take it then. [SPEAKER_02]: If Copeland and Ocada is kind of a one and done, I could see a scenario, especially with the history between Fletcher and Ocada, where Ocada tries interfering in the match, and basically both Ocada and Copeland screw over the person they're trying to help, which would build to a Ocada Fletcher match, maybe at World's End and a Copeland and Osprey match.

46:07 [SPEAKER_03]: And my back. [SPEAKER_02]: There you are. [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my death do a little at the end. [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. [SPEAKER_03]: Ryan. [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I got the editing piece. [SPEAKER_03]: That's not all right. [SPEAKER_02]: I know I froze, I go, what the hell's going on right now? [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm completely in a greens with you. [SPEAKER_03]: Okada and Fletcher have not had a single, or no, they've had a couple in the continental classic. [SPEAKER_03]: Fletcher's taking him out twice. [SPEAKER_03]: Yep. [SPEAKER_03]: cashers are too giant wins. [SPEAKER_03]: That's why I said, like those of those six losses, a couple of those were to Kyle Fletcher. [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, it's time to give him is just do. [SPEAKER_03]: And like you said, kind of flip flop, flip flop, that scenario around. [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe have Copeland go after Osprey at World's End and O'Cottah Fletcher.

46:47 [SPEAKER_03]: But that also mean both of them would likely not be in the C2 or they would get bounced, which would be really interesting. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know, I'm excited to see it. [SPEAKER_02]: Like I said, AW is just absolutely clicking right now, um, dotting all the eyes and crossing all the teas and their stories, uh, build has been fantastic. [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm really looking forward to full gear. [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be pretty fantastic. [SPEAKER_02]: And that that card is loaded. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm with you. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_03]: This is one of the better constructed cards. [SPEAKER_03]: I think maybe you have the year for them. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. [SPEAKER_02]: There's an argument for it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, most full gears in the past have definitely delivered.

47:30 [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, there's definitely going to be no shortage of that. [SPEAKER_03]: I think coming up here next Saturday, sort of six days away from it. [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we'll definitely be back to review it. [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's going to be a matter of when. [SPEAKER_03]: And we're definitely going to talk about that off air. [SPEAKER_03]: Let there be next one week from today or it'll be Monday nights. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll actually one way or the other. [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to look at the calendars and kind of aligned things. [SPEAKER_03]: But that's just what I'm giving you at this point. [SPEAKER_03]: Well, Justin, we did it. [SPEAKER_03]: I think we we aimed for an hour or less. [SPEAKER_03]: And here we are. [SPEAKER_02]: Now I get to go do yard work. [SPEAKER_03]: Yay. [SPEAKER_03]: and i got quite a few errands to run so that is what i have uh... one last thing on the way out britney you do this a lot it is good to see you you always catch us on the way out oh no so i mean as always you're definitely going to watch the review her watch the show from the very beginning kind of give us your critiques and [SPEAKER_03]: what you thought and give us your takes on AW what's going on right now where like blood and guts was a thing but full gear overall is leading us both in a very excited state and to see what's going to go happen for the rest of twenty twenty six and beyond.

48:45 [SPEAKER_03]: That's for darn sure. [SPEAKER_03]: So one last thing out the door. [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to do it one more time patreon.com slash top rope nation is the best place to support us Ryan Justin and I do plan on getting a classics done here. [SPEAKER_03]: We're hoping in the next month just a matter of NFL schedules. [SPEAKER_03]: I do know the bears have not had their buy yet. [SPEAKER_03]: So I think what we'll do is kind of push the Rhine drasty button and see if we can get a classic out for you in the meantime, but there are hundreds of hours of shows and reviews from like yesterday year with WWFWCW, done a little bit of ECW, so like just classic wrestling is definitely [SPEAKER_03]: our sweet spot as well as what's happening currently with AEW.

49:31 [SPEAKER_03]: I have last and first last thing. [SPEAKER_03]: Also, please give this show a thumbs up. [SPEAKER_03]: It helps us in the algorithm and get it out to more folks. [SPEAKER_03]: Any other closing thoughts just before we head for the hills? [SPEAKER_02]: I do not. [SPEAKER_02]: I think I got it all out there. [SPEAKER_03]: We both did. [SPEAKER_03]: All right, well, Brittany, catch the replay. [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, not a big deal at all. [SPEAKER_03]: And for the rest of you, that has been episode 426 of Top Rope Nation. [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see you very, very soon. [SPEAKER_03]: So, care. [SPEAKER_02]: Lukaku.