AEW Dynasty Review: MJF Retains, Right Decision?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me continue with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is new time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The better it is, the better it was, and the better it will be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're back here in my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The boom of the clock.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not rich enough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: episode 11 of top rope nation alongside Justin joined I am your host for this evening Jesse Velasquez Ryan drastie is not with us he is weathering a storm per se in amongst the the Io and teachers down there as well so Justin how are you on this Monday night

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was confused there for a saying saying, wait, I don't think we're supposed to get hit by storms until tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when we're going to be under the tornado watch, but yeah, man, I'm doing pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wiped out on mandatory overtime this week, up very late last night, which we will talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, just kind of dad exhausted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do not blame you, that's why I went to bed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, yeah, right before the six man started and watched the rest this morning when I had the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm anxious to talk about the main event because I wonder if that colors how we feel about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You watched it with a clear head and fresh eyes in the morning and I was forcing myself to watch it because I knew I wasn't gonna have time today to finish it before we podcasted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's the absolute hard part about going all the way through an event which Ryan did last night and he definitely wanted us to mention that and I'm going to do that here right now because there is a lot going on this week and I have to do this, the patrons of top rope nation who support us and keep us going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're getting paid this week with a lot of content

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel like a jerk now talking about how tired I am, having to stay up and watch, you know, all of the show, meanwhile, Ryan watched all of the show and then had to do a review podcast afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Poor guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A solo, a solo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, solo and he rocked it though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I highly recommend any of our Patreon's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you go check out Ryan's review.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so that is there and available for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe you put that out very late last night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So here's the things that you're going to get paid with over this week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thursday, classics, WrestleMania 10, former co-host of said show Kyle Ross will be joining us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So always a plus when that happens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: See, this is the type of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is something I kind of don't want to do and I do feel obligated to do it though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Jacob Dolores and Cedric Welton, formerly of we got NXT or we got next are going to be joining me and previewing WrestleMania 42.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the good news about that Justin, yes, is you get to escape it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: More good news for me is these two are informed with what's going on in world wrestling entertainment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's actually going to sound quite a bit educated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look forward to hearing that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that will be available for you patrons late tomorrow night early Wednesday morning in the United Kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then of course, potentially a Sunday Monday, we'll see what that looks like because contrary to popular notion or in your case, it is WrestleMania season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't foresee me watching it unless, unless Ryan invites me over on Saturday night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll watch night one, which he is not hinted at at all, but I guess I'm just throwing it out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably going to be the only way I watch WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be beat up from the week, because like you said, mandatory overtime.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One day through Thursday or you're going all the way Friday as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Monday through Friday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: pod tonight, uh, the next two nights will be doing research for, uh, classics and then record classics on Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I sent some heavy lifting on that show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, yeah, yeah, I'm not too worried.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is easily one that, uh, if I wanted to, I could probably skip a whole lot of my research and just hang out like I used to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you most certainly could as we alluded to last show where you'd look over the corner of your eyes or what's happening live.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess before we get into that, it's playoff season in your favorite sport in America.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yes, it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, just lost my fantasy basketball league was in the lead for the entire second half of the season and then lost it in the last two weeks, but I'm looking forward to these playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They, they should be really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: west is loaded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you know, the east is really good too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we've kind of gotten used to that the west is loaded narrative that it's kind of easy just to disregard the east.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously it's nowhere near as tough as the west.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think next year going in next year when you get Halle Burton back on the Pacers and they're going to have probably a top four pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the hornets are looking really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be curious to see what the magic do this off

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, meonus, the things are a little tense in Milwaukee, yeah, it's going to be a really fun playoff and a really fun off season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It will certainly is in the pistons is the one seed and Kate cutting him is now back, which is hopeful for that squad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, hopefully hopefully our timber wolves can make a run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw KG came back the other night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was freaking awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He did last night in the most of the most of the players set it out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Baron Jay had 24, I believe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't look like a real deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't look like a real deal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't look like a real deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That dude's legit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to be a great building block for the future when Rudy's albatross of a contract goes by by.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did I ask you how you are?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or am I a jerk?

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[SPEAKER_02]: How is it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing really well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm kind of dreading this week with all the podcasting we're doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a loaded week, it's a loaded week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is on top of the shoot job going to be a little bit murderous for the next two and a half weeks so I'll be like you very low on sleep, but hey, I know this is short term and it's stuff that I like to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like Thursday is going to be a blast and absolute blast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just got to get to Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you get to talk about Brett the man heart winning a world title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, and having the greatest opening match in the history of WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah, oh, yeah, Bretto and that's a death.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's come for food for me right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Greatest ladder match in wrestling history, question mark.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We should, yeah, we'll talk about that on Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Should we talk about the wrestling that happens last night?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly where we're going right now, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for all of the segue.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A.W.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dynasty, I almost had dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Took place last night in Vancouver, British Columbia, I think in front of about 9,000 attendees.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what we always do, give us your grade for A.E.W.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dynasty last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say in A, I think in my estimation, probably four matches that I would give around that four-star range, I've kind of, I'm developing a new system, because I'd like there was a conversation in our discord last night about some people give the stars, some people don't, and somebody made an interesting comment that's just more about vibes, and that's usually how I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like to see how long a match went.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And is it, did it fall where I thought it was or did it feel long or did it feel short?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's usually a pretty good tell as to how much I enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, board matches right around that four star range.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some shocking outcomes, I thought, kind of cross the board.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it built the show built in a really good way where I guess I'll just get it all the way now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've talked about this before, but I've never been a huge canyomega fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like canyomega, I can appreciate his entering work, but I've definitely always been a tier below, I think a lot of wrestling fans in their admiration of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've always been kind of indifferent to the idea of him get another title run, but between the build into the show where they actually made me believe that that title switch could happen and then the way the show built itself where it's like, hmm, Jericho lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Copen Cage lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's just like over and over again, Canadians losing except for

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it had me believe it going into the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was pumped and I was I was marking out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a fanboy And I was rooting on Kenny Omega, but yeah, I would give it a name But I'm gonna go A minus just because again, it's just so late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care that it's long that the shows are long That doesn't bother me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that it goes so late on a Sunday That's the worst part

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[SPEAKER_02]: Barnon, I took the high road last night and it's a bed at 10 after 10 right after the Osprey Moxley match and said, I, you know, I can talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can I put spoilers which I did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was very easily avoided spoilers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had an hour in between clients this morning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I watched MJF and Kenny Omega just to get it out of the way in case I wanted to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: on social media.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So A minus is also my grade.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm starting to become decent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like a broken record when I review these shows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, there's tropes I don't like about AEW.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those kind of stick in my crawl a little bit, but I've also learned to accept them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no denying that how hard the talent work and just the in-ring performances are amazing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've almost each and every AEW pay per view.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think like you said Tony Con and his spacing with how the show went I felt for the most part was good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There were two matches in particular.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt overstayed, they're welcome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: However, I think there's a couple of matches that over-delivered for me, and there was one that is a borderline match of the year borderline, I can't quite put it there, but with having three to four matches in that four star range, it's really easy to give it a name minus great, just like you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, should we just go right to the main event talk about the outcome we we probably should.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, the devil versus the god a professional wrestling almost 40 minutes and what I this is where the lens of watching this fresh in the morning really comes in to play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved the pacing of this man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: how they built very, very slowly the first half.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It felt like a Kenny Omega New Japan match to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I do like, I do like Omega's New Japan were quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So to see them kind of turn it up another notch in the second half was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved the selling and how, especially in the first 25 minutes of things, every move felt important.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't get much of that and pro wrestling anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think in a W almost you don't get that because you get these guys with their sudden rushes after getting hit with a big move and in sense is it can almost kind of take you out of it a little bit and just like, well we're going through this again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think MJF and Omega played that part brilliantly where they they sold everything everlasting with the one winged the avalanche one winged angel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: which they tease a couple times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Couple times Kenny also was trying to get him up for something an M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_02]: was just desperately holding on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That reminded me a lot of Kenny and O'Cotta when O'Cotta would go for a rainmaker and they just, yeah, stalemate couldn't move him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kenny would go for one wagan angel, O'Cotta knew who was coming, wasn't moving.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just, I love that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It felt like, yes, you're here to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, we'll Justin being tired, kind of give me some of your thoughts on the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I liked it, and I didn't know if this was just because of, you know, I was getting tired and I was kind of ready for the show to be over by the time this match came on, but I don't think that's the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, it felt a little bloated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you that the first half everything did feel necessary and important and they sold it all well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's kind of becoming an ongoing issue with MJF many event matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That to me just seems like there's easily five to 10 minutes that you can cut out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where you get to that, sorry, broken record here, you get to that diminishing returns thing, where, okay, it would did anything in that first half I watched, mean anything, going into the second half of the match and I always question that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love the first half, and I loved like the last 10 minutes of it, building to the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the stuff with the diamond ring was all really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that Kenny can claim he deserves a rematch because he got the visual pin on M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_00]: M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_00]: getting kind of a relatively

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[SPEAKER_00]: ish clean win over Kenny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know he used the ring on Kenny's diverticulitis to help get that tombstone into the table of the outside, but for the most part of somewhat clean win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was shocked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I think the mark in me,

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[SPEAKER_00]: was a little let down that Kenny didn't win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like, coming out of the show that I felt on this high through all of dynasty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like it was building like to the top of this roller coaster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the time it was over, I was like, no, okay, I mean, I don't hate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of expected MJF to win, but I'll talk with the way that entire show went.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And with the build, it was like, kind of wanted to see Kenny Omega win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am very excited for the baby face that MJF is going to be facing this Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See he's going to be putting the title on the line against Derby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And man, I don't know dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he could happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think a title change could happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's in, I don't know if it's Derby's home town, but it's the where he trained.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was from where Nick Wayne's dad trained out of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, kind of, now feels like the time, you know, it's not in it's not like Darby doesn't need a long title or title run at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not the kind of world champ he would be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a, this is a Mick Foley kind of guy where he can, if he can just get his name etched on that lineage, it, it mean a lot because he, he's a very special talent and he's a very important wrestler to AEW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This dude cut a fucking promo, a wrestling promo on the top of Mount Everest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will never get over that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and they can still go back to Kenny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause I think a lot of us in the back of our heads are thinking, you know, what's all in gonna be?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the main event?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of us are thinking, what's the biggest matches they could put on is part three of Osprey and Omega for the world title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause we all assume Osprey's gonna get it there, but uh, yeah, shocked by the finish in a little disappointed which I think, you know, it was just a little bit of a let down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually feel that's kind of a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's suspended your disbelief.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, that's, I mean, why the fuck do we watch wrestling?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If not to feel things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that match had me feeling things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or at the very least, the outcome had me feeling things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Certainly, there was other matches on the card that did the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I love this promotion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I just saw something pop up, but we'll talk about it later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, finish your thought and then I'm going to roll into something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I walk out of this paper view most importantly, being excited and curious to see where things are going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, Omega's not done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where's MJF going to go?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can Darby actually do it this Wednesday?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get in the other matches, you know, Osprey and Mox and, you know, the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Deathwriters versus the United Empire, Coping Cage for FTR, there's what's going on with Jericho, but we're gonna touch on all this, but man, I mean, that's a lot of good stuff where you're coming out of the show, being like, oh, where the fuck is he gonna go now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's gonna happen?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It may be what it made me excited to watch dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's three championship matches advertised for the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So not just the big one, there's two more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll get into that at the very end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, one of the other ones.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think again, having the advantage of watching it the next day, MJF and Omega as of now was my favorite match of the night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I just think they delivered on a big stage in every single way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the way that MJF won the match to me is just kind of, yeah, it's typical MJF.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's just going to sneak it all out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Any any any any way he can cheating by by nook crook and just just those little devilish tactics that he uses and That's just the mark to me of a really good heel champion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's I these these one of the best

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I would put it third or fourth for my favorite match the night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, most people are in that contrarian.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am the, I am the contrarian.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Most people are thinking like you, I think, in terms of favorite match of the night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's a four hour and 15 minute show too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So again, it's a disadvantage of it being the very end of the night,

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[SPEAKER_02]: all of that good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I want to get into, well, we'll actually read again to some of the comments here in a moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's hit on Darby Allen and Nondrader right away because it's going to tie into Darby and MJF here on Wednesday night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was my second favorite match of the night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My second favorite match as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When it happened, it was my favorite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, again, man, Darby's fucking special dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He comes from this lineage of,

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[SPEAKER_00]: of you watch somebody and say, there's nobody like that, you know, it's the McFollies, it's the Terry Fox, there's a few, I mean, literally just a handful of other names you could group in with someone who stands out as much as Darby does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fucking dropkick on the stairs out in the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this guy is insane, including, and this is, I mean, I should get

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[SPEAKER_00]: phenomenal since coming back to AEW, just outrageous in every aspect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's really letting it all hang out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw something in that match I've never seen before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was that spot on the top rope where I believe on Drydy was going for like a Simone drop or something and they flipped all the way around, I mean, the amount of

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[SPEAKER_00]: error that could have led to catastrophe with that move, I was holding my breath.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't believe, but Darby reverses it into a crossface.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just insane, just absolutely insane.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It first it looked to me like a modified Spanish fly, but you're right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was, uh, it was a Samo and dropped turn into a cross face, which to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was insane.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, uh, Andrade doing the, the Trant Kilo and then Darby runs right at him tackles him through the ropes was such a fun spot to, yeah, I, I don't know if I should apologize to Andrade right now or not for all the shit that I gave him behind a paywall for the silence he got at W. W. Go ahead, you were wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'd deserve that criticism because he was getting silence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could tell he was expecting bigger things when he went back to WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they immediately didn't happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he realized very quickly that he wasn't gonna get anything he wanted out of that run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're just getting right now the most motivated on draw day that there's ever been.

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[SPEAKER_02]: he's ripped a shreds and he looks like he's going to be going baby face very very soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that was so he saved face good the finish of the match being essentially like a cradle finish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember what Derby calls that the last supper something that has to do with supper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it the last supper it might be that that leg lock kind of craddle thing which is very cool, but that's how we won So he got it was kind of a quote unquote lucky win, so on dry day saves face there and you know he gave Derby the handshake afterwards and it almost looked like when he was leaving that He was gonna turn around and go attack him, which he kind of played into that really well, but he didn't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again coming out of the show

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where's Derby gone?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can he actually do this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then what's going to happen if I'm driving in the Don Callous family?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's all sorts of chaos going on with the Don Callous family.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's on brand with Andrade's story because at the same Paul Dynamite, Andrade was hesitant to attack Derby out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was kind of hesitant to wrestle Darby Allen when Don Callis announced it that he would be the one to try to step in front of Darby becoming the number one contender.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So shaking hands afterwards made all of the sense in the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now let's get into the big part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby M.J.F.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wednesday night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everett Washington.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you called your shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think most importantly, I don't know who's going to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think most importantly for me, the Mark of Professional Wrestling, I really want to see Darby win it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he did, you know, this is such a stupid term.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He deserves it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For everything he sacrifices for A, W. Like I would even be okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like obviously the thinking would be wins it on wins day, drops it back at W or nothing, but it could even just be a week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a W does not do short title reigns with their main title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was the shortest one, I mean, planned one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, there's like the CM Punk stuff where he had to drop it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, the Smojo, I guess title reign in the fall was pretty short by their standards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, I don't know, man, I would like to see Darby get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that'd be really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where it doesn't hurt MJF at all, him just coming off of this 40 minute main event against the God of Pro Wrestling, where he just got his absolute ass beat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has to fight again, he has to defend his title again, like three days later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's some good reasons to do it now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, gosh, there's so many comments.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, we're going to get some, oh, good chunk of these comments here in a moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The feel of good story is there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess the question I'll ask you right now is Justin, is are you going to let kids stay up for the minute of end?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have my fingers crossed that they open it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I doubt that's going to happen, but it wouldn't be a first that Tony throws out the big match first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I'm heavily considering a man, like legit, I was thinking about it tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, while putting him to bed, I was like, oh, man, try to stay up for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You freaking love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we have to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you at on it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you want?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I know, like, especially in our discord, there's a lot of people that don't want to see him when this title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, question, do you think he will and would you like to see it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm more open to it than most.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Would I like to see it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really am.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go out of my way though to say I think it's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Call in your shot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a it's a hometown thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they can go so many ways.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm with I'm with a belief like you said a couple of minutes ago that Darry will lose it at double or nothing to somebody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Whether that's MJF in a rematch in New York and Queens, but I, that might not go in line with what they want to do for all in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They probably don't want an MJF Osprey or an MJF Omega, because we've seen both those matches that be the third iteration.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now Osprey Omega is also a third iteration if and when that happens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And let's scroll up to what I was going to highlight here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: so many comments in them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just drop them a ball here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where did it go?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Owen Heart Finals.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Would you rather see that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hospital mega or wait until all in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A big part of why I've been enjoying a W for the past year is because

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've just been kind of enjoying the ride.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I have faith in what Tony Khan is gonna do or what he has planned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get, yeah, I mean, I can't wrap my head around another MJF Osprey all in match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just can't see that happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know it'd be the third, but,

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[SPEAKER_00]: just feel like there's got to be a bigger match, you know, and I don't know how they get there with the current title situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you want to get it off of MJF?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's not going to be Darby going to all in, you know, I'm thinking either Omega or Swerve, or probably the best possibilities, like I think Swerve and Osprey at all and, but then again, that's also, I don't want to see Swerve with another short title reign, you know, if he's going to get it back, I want to see

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, sorry, I'm at a loss.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There are so many things that are up in the air and that's what makes this so exciting for all elite wrestling fans as a whole is you could go a plethora of ways as to who you'd like to hold the title who you'd like to see when the Owen Hart Cup and who you'd like to see in this thing first and foremost, I mean, there's a lot of avenues to go down

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I've I've turned to what some people would call the dark side and Darby Allen as an AW world heavyweight champion for a but a month long rain.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wayne in it in his hometown.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the only this is probably the only time it can happen if I'm being honest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree and I think part of the reasons why I want them to pull the trigger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know how he comes back from this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he, you know, follows short again in his hometown, you know, the story for the, you know, there was a large chunk of last year where we were, it made sense storyline wise that Darby could be the one to take it from Mox at all in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we were all worried about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that didn't feel like a Darby moment, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We all wanted hangman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This, to me, kind of feels like a Derby moment, like, I don't know, just some about it feels like the right time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and spite of the fact, and again, there's a lot of, there's this course out there, they say he's not really, he's not sure stereotypical world champion, which definitely isn't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a, this is a

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, but good Lord that I appreciate that man so much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like the more more I covered 1995 ECW and he turned in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, is this he's like top 10 for me all time?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to deny it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby right now, just the influential run that he's on, and he's always had the crowd support.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's teammate W. I mean, this isn't a participation world championship.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel he's earned it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck yeah, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fuck yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You look at all the ways he sacrificed himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just, I mean, just in that match against Andre Alon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but you go back to everything, just the way he wrestles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just so chaotic, and just the way he uses his body as a weapon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This guy isn't gonna be around for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I keep trying to hammer home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We gotta appreciate him now while we got him, because it's just not guaranteed for a long career with him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's gonna be, I still don't understand that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's tie this in a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we're gonna go back up to the top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get into Will Osprey and John Massey for the Continental Championship.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love the way they started it with Osprey hidden blade right out of the gate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Would you like to have seen a cover right away on that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I liked the idea that they were going for, where

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is about more than the title for Will Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is about revenge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is about beating the shit out of moxley.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I did not mind that at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was doing point in the clock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, tell him the camera, I got plenty of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it kind of bleeds into the finish where there was this just little bit of arrogance on his part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is back from a pretty significant neck surgery.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and he was just overconfident and led his emotions get the best of him where it was more about trying to inflict pain, unmoxually more than trying to win the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I dug it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was my match to the night pretty easily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I freaking love this thing from top to bottom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of Japanese style matches and having covered Kobashi and Masawa from Noah, this kind of felt like that to me with all of the suplexes on heads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a lot of stiff clothes lines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to make my plea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When Osprey does the springboard into the elbow by moxley and moxley goes directly into the flex pose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody, any listener out there, I'm begging you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Find me that gif of the elbow into the flex.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm begging you, I can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not on Twitter anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure it's out there somewhere, but I could not find it on Blue Sky anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If I find it, I will send it to you tonight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That'll be my mission.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Please do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Please do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been super easy to find GIFs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually found the one that was posted in our discord earlier with M.J. of Hump and Kenny Omega's face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so you know that I can have some issues with Osprey matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, you know, it's kind of like the same thing with M. J. F. Where it feels like they just get a little over-indulgent with stuff and things stop mattering as much as they should.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I liked this pairing because I thought mocks really brought Osprey down to quote unquote earth in a sense where it was like, he was kind of making him wrestle his way a little bit, slowing down the pace and

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were a really good pairing and I would like to see more of this which I think we're going to obviously this is this is in a few that's going away anytime soon, but man that the the the paradigm shift into the the kind of last gas hidden blade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That Osprey did that was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's something I normally kind of get a little annoyed by but I thought they executed that perfectly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and toppled right over as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the first match go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, even though the finish where, you know, Osper is on the inside, finally gets in there and immediately stomped and eats like, what was it like two or three paradigm shifts?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't perfectly execute it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I absolutely love this match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that's kind of where it took me out of the match a little bit and that's why it's not in the the pile driver on the stairs to a guy with a surgically repaired neck like in the way he sold it and for him to do the trope of the nine count and look at a hurry in

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I, no, it took me out and, oh, see that, uh, that, that could be something that would bother me and a lot of other instances, but it didn't in this case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I, it bothered me more when they did it the very beginning of the pack match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where they really melked, you know, packed, attacking him at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was acting like his neck was broken again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That one bothered me this one not so much because he did just take the pile driver onto the steel steps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he,

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[SPEAKER_00]: did pretty well with the jumping into the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause that, I mean, to me, that's like a, usually a Dolph Ziggler special, where they're dead, then also they just jump up and run in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt we got a little bit more movement and re-energite, re-energite, blah, blah, re-energized, offspray to get into the ring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is where you learn, I'm going to go back to Kobashi, masala again, when Kobashi took that tiger suplex off of the ramp on his head and rolled into the ring at 19, like it took like every inch of him just to get up and he just perfectly rolled into the ring just to avoid the count out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wish guys would do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would like to see a little bit slower way in there, but I get, you know, I get the excitement of the quick movements.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then that's when the double paradigm shifts and getting up at two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just like, I felt the match should have been over there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I get that it's Will Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I love Will Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I rarely criticize him, but at that point it took me a little out of the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I would probably drop that either third or fourth match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: of a night for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so funny that we both love Will Osprey, but it seems for like, it seems to be for different reasons when it comes to entering that there's different things that we get out of Will Osprey matches where like this kind of match really hits for me, and there's been a lot of other ones that really hit for you, and I'm kind of more lukewarm on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you got to love professional wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like John Moxie's style a lot though, and I always have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's on a run right now though, like he is just in his element.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, those, those two have really good chemistry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're match in New Japan and Russell Kingdom with David Filme.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was also very good to Russell Kingdom in 2024, a couple of months before Osprey left.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I would recommend people going on their way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go back and watch that too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, these two have great chemistry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see something down the road.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I, I said it before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think if Osprey does when the title at all in, Moxie's going to make a great opponent for him and Osprey can overcome him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's a good idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you don't go right back to this match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: especially if you want to put the title on Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or at least not in a singles match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can do like the Anarchy in the arena.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Deathwriters United Empire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's something along those lines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of feel like the thing that's going to occupy Will's time in between now and all in is possibly, you know, a Cal Newman feud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it does seem like, you know, he's getting married soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he seems to be very engaged with New Japan right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he really wants to get back over there more often.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be curious to see how that plays out with AEW television.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you mean he's unselfish like Brian Danielson?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, probably to a fault.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it might make me love him even more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, hey, that was last year, you know, with, you know, speaking of the Owen Hart tournament was apparently both him and hangman were in Tony's ear trying to tell them that the other person should win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd love that match to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, fuck yeah, it's a great match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jeez.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go back up to the top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some people's match of the night, and I see it here, Tim Jensen highlighted it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Youngbucks, Kazuchko Kata, Kenosuke, Takeshita, these four deliverers, it was about a 20 minute, it was just under 20.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Youngbucks get the win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was curious how they were gonna get the win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually loved how they got the win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They pindokata, that made me happy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, into Keshita, it eats another pin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm seriously gonna throw something through a television set.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just so high on that guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But nonetheless, I mean, your thoughts on that match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually going into it, I was pretty confident that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, the bucks were gonna win and number two, Okada was gonna eat the panic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm pretty sure the last time that Okada into Keshda teamed together, it was vice versa with Okada kind of costing the match and to Keshda eaten the pinfell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I felt comfortable that they had to go the other route this time in order to keep building this feud, the box had to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I dug the match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The box just, there's always two or three things in a box match that takes me out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In this case, there was a moment where I believe it was Nick Jackson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he had a code read onto Kesha.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then just ran back to kneel down next to Matt so that they could eat double knees from Takeshita.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, that kind of thing where it's just like spots are more important than the storytelling match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where it's like, oh, that made zero sense and it kind of took me out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just me personally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just my relationship with the young box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still fucking loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was an incredible match, but talking about my new theory about match lengths, dictating my thoughts on the match itself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I looked up afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This match was about 20 minutes long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, that feels exactly right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That, you know, I wouldn't have guessed over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't have guessed under.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, it was like just under a four star match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: still absolutely incredible, Ocadas kind of a blast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's such, I kind of love this nerd version of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a total goofball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the big question for me coming out of it is do you save this for all in?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you drag this all the way out

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel like that should be the play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know people, you know, the stipulation of the mattress, if they won, then they would get to fight each other at double or nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think there are still people that believe that could match could happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But man, I would save it for all in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would keep dragging this thing out as long as possible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is where it's a shame that Kyle Fletcher is injured because this could be in our anarchy in the arena scenario.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okato Fletcher, support member of the Don Callis family, you then you get on Droughtay to Keshita and an all-star team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Baby faces more often than not have won these matches in the past so I think it's something that you could definitely build up to so I'm in your camp I think waiting to all in would be great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still a little bit disappointed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said it on unplugged that those two had their match at world's end Yeah, I heard that I was surprised by that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I disagree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it you got to get

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind that they got a first one in there in that Ocada got the win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would, the goal should be to catch the getting the huge win over Ocada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they can, they've planted that seeded out that he can actually do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And,

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[SPEAKER_00]: at the same time, they've made it pretty obvious that Okada's kind of scared of Dekeshta, even though he got the win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it to Pedro 5th's point here in the comments, you know, thinking that Okada was going to lay down for the box to pin and screw Dekeshta out of the match at double or nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, I had thoughts along the same lines that Okada would try and do something to avoid it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: for us being opposites here tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really like the finish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it was a 20 minute match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it took to catch the 20 minutes to decide that Fakokata, you know, just let them lose, it's like, that's been your opinion of him for months now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, that didn't hit or that didn't land quite the same with me as I know it did with other people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't take away from anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, it's still a borderline four star match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But in the middle of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have any more thoughts on this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You go ahead and.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do have a few, uh, O'Cotta putting on Nick or Matt Jackson's gear was fan flipping task.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: On Giggle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I owe big time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I, cash.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want O'Cotta to be a serious wrestler, but he throws all this comedy shit in here and I love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's good at it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's so good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a different role.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just weird not seeing the high and mighty rainmaker in AEW.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I think you just have to accept it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm okay with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just these little goofy one-off spots.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna scroll up to notes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, didn't have many notes at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, I didn't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, it's the match of the night on cage match, which I found kind of odd.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't my thing because there was a couple of young bucks tropes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did like in this match either much like you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I would rank that one lower than Moxley and Osprey also.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So can I do my little segue here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what I was not expecting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I dug,

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[SPEAKER_00]: was to enjoy the tag match with Adam Copeland, more than this tag team match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did, I liked the Copen cage versus FTR match slightly better than this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just like what Ryan said in his review, I mean, this was heads and tails better than their match at all out that they had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This one was just so much better in every way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't super shocked that they lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: just because I think there's all sorts of iterations of this feud they're gonna do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think at some point, there's gonna be the title change, which would be just a two-on-two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think at some point, which is why I thought the books were gonna win, because they've already kind of teased there's some sort of triple threat tag team match going on here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the end game is, you know, Copen Cajun Beth versus FTR and Stokely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's gonna happen at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this one's going to go for quite a while and the most, or I should say, the best way to keep it interesting is for FTR to retain and you know, they're my favorite tag team by a country mile and you put them in with two veterans and as Luke warm as I am with Copeland right now especially in AEW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they just overcame it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, I enjoyed Copen this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A damn near look like that might have been hard way with the belt to the head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I probably wasn't, but a great blade job if it wasn't hard way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Much like in all of Adam Copen's matches, it went a little bit too long for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how long did that one go?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this one was a little over 22.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is one kind of felt every minute on the bad way, but felt the length of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's an interesting take.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually going to, well, I'm going to backtrack to Tim's here a little bit later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: this one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I liked the theory.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just Christian didn't push Stokely hard enough for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Stokely almost had to roll into the pin himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great Christian needed to sell better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Totally agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Totally.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yes, this, this match to me was on par.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think with the books into Keshita in Okada.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there was the same match rating for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this was a, it was a really good match in FTR.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, best tag team in the business for 100% for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Them singing, oh, Canada.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love the crowd singing in the very beginning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt this was when the crowd hit their peak.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was, it was a really good crowd for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think they'd, which are just around a little bit too long, getting five hours worth of wrestling and kind of faded at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ryan addressed this in his review.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt they kind of died a little bit in the main event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they were up for a lot of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a great crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there was another level they could have taken it to, but they did feel a little burnt out by the end of the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They most certainly did there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I was just in all caps almost.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said, Christian playing the asshole tweeners great stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, Christians the best.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Crowds can't help but cheer him, but he's just doing dastardly heal things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to go backwards, because there was a match in between there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That ended up surprising me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so real quick, Darby Allen, Andrade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was 16 minutes and 46 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have guessed way shorter on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does that one to be just flew by really good?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I kind of graded a little bit higher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ricochet versus Chris Jericho, I enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it went 19 minutes and that one felt long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I could feel that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish they would have cut that shorter,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Holy shit, Rick Shae won, dude, for all of us bald and balding guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and Jericho grab in the camera saying he's bald.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's definitely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't been able to

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[SPEAKER_00]: completely put my finger on what he's doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's definitely some like, let's play the hits, you know, last tour of a legendary band.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is smart enough to know that if he's going to stay a baby face,

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[SPEAKER_00]: with this AW crowd because he cannot go in the ring like what an AW fan is accustomed to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in order for him to stay over with the with with the fans as a baby face,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really smart for him to take this loss to lose to Ricochet when everybody assumed Jericho's back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to start beating all the guys we like and it's just going to get fucking old really quick I thought this was really smart on his part for as dumb as I think he is outside of professional wrestling Chris Jericho knows what the fuck's going on when it comes to programs

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[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't that great?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Michael Jenkins and you can smile now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I Jericho played his role pretty well last night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the shooting star press into the co-breaker was nice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he, I mean, he worked really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He looked great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the selling of the arm injury after that Death Valley driver under the ring apron.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was brutal looking in the way they sold that to the point where I've

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I've seen some people online speculate that that might have been a legit injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I believe that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, the plan had to have been for Rick Shader win that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, he Jericho kind of picked the perfect time to come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The perfect places to come back and the perfect opponent to come back to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, losing, I think, was really smart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I'm excited to see where this is going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A Canadian tour, yeah, coming back and being the baby face in that role was definitely the right way to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was absolutely Pedro Jericho's definitely a better bad guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's going to turn eventually.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's a matter of time and maybe we'll actually care a little bit about him again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Before we get into the next match, real fast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Could you see Ocada and Takeshita both being in the Owen Hart tournament first and foremost?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I, I don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of wrestling for Okada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if we'll see that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He did put it in a continental classic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true, but that's kind of his thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's like the G1 equivalent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but yeah, I I'd

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[SPEAKER_02]: I could maybe see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a bad idea.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, it's not a bad idea, Brendan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is one of those scenarios where you want to put your quote unquote best guys in a situation like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the TNT got lit casino title match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As tropey as it was for usual with guys lying around on the outside, which I hated an issue always hated.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The entering action left me wanting a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed the match in spite of the tropes, because you saw some people in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This was the work-rate title match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You just threw all guys who could work in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see what they could do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Give me your initial thoughts, and then we'll get to the winner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was the perfect time to do the casino gauntlet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, while they were overplaying that hand, because this is a match I really do dig, it's kind of a W's version of the row rumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the perfect time to play that hand, because for one, the TNT title is up for grabs, kind of short and unknown notice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And,

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[SPEAKER_00]: this for the first two thirds really show the depth of this roster because literally every guy that came out, I was like, I want to see him win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, guy after guy, I want to see him win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see him win until we got to Garcia and Bowens and Yuda.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then the match kind of dropped

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I still thought it was pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I grew a few too much, too many guys laying on the outside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the good thing is there are matches that I felt we got teases of in this that I want to see more of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Champa and Roosh, yes, please, you know, and most importantly, our boy Kevin Knight is the TNT champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I predicted Brody King.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm guessing the reason that didn't happen is because apparently he had a friend who died and he was at the funeral and stuff which is sad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think he could be there, but man, I mean, even if he could be there, this still could have been Kevin night's time, you know, it's like they're doing something here with the possible heel turn down the road, some dissension between him and speedball, you know, he kind of stole speedball's moment there by hitting that UFO splash on top of them and getting the pin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, man, I'd, too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, too many guys in there in the second half, where it's like, there's no way you're going to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially when there's, to me that I still felt there was guys in the back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could have brought out who I would have enjoyed to see out there more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still dug it, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was, it was cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tim, I,

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[SPEAKER_00]: don't know if I agree with your disagree with you no strong disagree i wouldn't mind it and be coming at you time champion personally but there were other better options out there to me too yeah i mean i you go kevin night or even bandito would have been like i said i was hoping for brody king yes pack oh speed ball i fucking love el clone that dudes another one is like the way he moves in a ring is truly unique um

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man, that was a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Boy, I think you might have brought this up in the discord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on with Anthony Bowens?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is he lacking that he can just not, like, I like his entering work, love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I, I, I, I, I love his personality outside of A, W seems like a legit, cool guy, great body, great look, but man, there is just something missing, something that is not clicking with fans.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand it, especially with how receptive they are of where he leans this in general with life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You think he'd be super easy to cheer for and get behind and he's away from Max Caster right now, as well, which is helpful too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Billy Gunne, you haven't seen him much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like what what is the disconnect with the guy like Anthony Bowens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: His work rate isn't quite to the level of a lot of the guys that we saw in the ring.

57:16.550 --> 57:17.011
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.

57:17.031 --> 57:18.933
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's personality makes up for it though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a shame.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he might just be a tag team wrestler like that might be his forte or I had the thought, you know, he might be better suited for the E.

57:32.318 --> 57:34.441
[SPEAKER_02]: That's uh, look wise.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of what I mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I and he would be an elite in ring worker there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Kevin Knights prospects as a TNG champion before we move on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you foresee?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who chases him down?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who does he work with?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: at the risk of me, sounding, I don't know if racist is the right word, but like I just don't, you know, the hurt, you know, Syndicate is back and they're teasing a new member and that kind of fits

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[SPEAKER_00]: there's been rumblings of a swerve, you know, either partnership or feud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of great ways to elevate them even further.

58:42.009 --> 58:45.113
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, I hate to just group them with the other black guys.

58:45.153 --> 58:51.882
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, you know, call me Vince here, but I don't know, just a special talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still wouldn't pull the trigger on a heel turn yet though.

58:57.750 --> 58:59.312
[SPEAKER_00]: I would wait a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is the title match that I alluded to, you might not know about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I know about Willow and I know about Derby.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cage match has listed Kevin Knight defending his TNT championship against Claudio Casten, Yoli.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes, please.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Claudio's been working his ass off the last, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Since last was he in the classic, he was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, yes, he's got to be honestly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, about perfect first opponent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Perfect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah, maybe a fun match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to make Heaven Night look good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was if he doesn't look good already.

59:38.289 --> 59:42.775
[SPEAKER_02]: Two more matches left in and these are going to be brief for me because I don't really have many thoughts on them.

59:42.795 --> 59:48.763
[SPEAKER_02]: Teclo defeating Jamie Hayter except for Hayter dropping a mother fucker bomb at the end which I loved.

59:50.386 --> 59:52.148
[SPEAKER_00]: The issue with that match.

59:52.786 --> 01:00:00.520
[SPEAKER_00]: is that we were at that point in a card where I was very much, this was like, there's no way that goes losing.

01:00:01.242 --> 01:00:06.652
[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's no suspense or drama here.

01:00:07.313 --> 01:00:08.535
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's get it fucking moving.

01:00:08.555 --> 01:00:10.639
[SPEAKER_00]: So we can get to the end of the show.

01:00:11.420 --> 01:00:13.444
[SPEAKER_00]: Having said that,

01:00:13.829 --> 01:00:31.315
[SPEAKER_00]: they beat the shit out of each other like I if this match had been on a dynamite it would have been like a four star match but because it was in this spot where it's like I was ready to move on that that really hurt a lot and it for me sadly I was a little checked out on this match too

01:00:32.442 --> 01:00:35.810
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I've been getting higher and higher on Teclas the weeks go on.

01:00:36.491 --> 01:00:41.943
[SPEAKER_02]: The way she won was fun and the maneurisms afterward, yeah, great stuff.

01:00:42.485 --> 01:00:47.616
[SPEAKER_02]: I think maybe Wednesday night is when we see Mercedes Monet citing as well.

01:00:47.596 --> 01:00:48.457
[SPEAKER_02]: Good call.

01:00:48.797 --> 01:00:50.138
[SPEAKER_02]: I would agree with that.

01:00:50.158 --> 01:00:50.979
[SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of surprised.

01:00:50.999 --> 01:00:51.980
[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't get it last night.

01:00:52.861 --> 01:01:01.789
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm to begin a build towards Maybe Mercedes repeating winning the O and going back and getting the title from tackle on a game of race.

01:01:02.290 --> 01:01:02.770
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't hate it.

01:01:03.411 --> 01:01:16.523
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah Last one again minimal thoughts here the conglomeration the new AEW trio's champions the only strong Canadian

01:01:16.975 --> 01:01:19.838
[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle O'Reilly getting a win in the game back.

01:01:20.779 --> 01:01:27.265
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the opening stage entrance was goofy, but I didn't hate it, didn't overstates.

01:01:27.306 --> 01:01:36.635
[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome fits with that group, and I enjoyed the dogs coming in and kind of quote unquote, peen on the couch.

01:01:36.655 --> 01:01:37.636
[SPEAKER_00]: That entire thing was good.

01:01:39.478 --> 01:01:42.561
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, just like with the women's title match,

01:01:43.655 --> 01:01:44.957
[SPEAKER_00]: just like, all right, let's come on.

01:01:45.097 --> 01:01:47.141
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to the big match.

01:01:47.201 --> 01:01:48.463
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get this going.

01:01:49.004 --> 01:02:01.585
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was doubly hurt by, well, Gabe kid getting hurt, which I think kind of just through a giant wretch for whatever they're going to go for in this match.

01:02:02.566 --> 01:02:03.167
[SPEAKER_02]: Great news on this.

01:02:03.207 --> 01:02:04.870
[SPEAKER_02]: It was 10 minutes.

01:02:06.419 --> 01:02:07.580
[SPEAKER_00]: That's your match length.

01:02:08.081 --> 01:02:09.463
[SPEAKER_00]: No reason for it to go longer.

01:02:10.004 --> 01:02:13.568
[SPEAKER_00]: Just give the home town boy is when and move on.

01:02:14.589 --> 01:02:17.373
[SPEAKER_02]: Pedro said earlier, Canada went one in three on the night.

01:02:17.433 --> 01:02:18.454
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Kyle O'Reilly.

01:02:20.937 --> 01:02:21.358
[SPEAKER_00]: Shocking.

01:02:22.980 --> 01:02:24.742
[SPEAKER_02]: One more question on that by the way.

01:02:24.942 --> 01:02:26.765
[SPEAKER_02]: Now that Kyle O'Reilly is back.

01:02:28.026 --> 01:02:29.769
[SPEAKER_02]: He was getting over.

01:02:29.789 --> 01:02:33.253
[SPEAKER_02]: He got a pin on John Moxley a full gear.

01:02:35.427 --> 01:02:37.971
[SPEAKER_02]: This trio is going to keep them occupied for a little while.

01:02:38.011 --> 01:02:45.623
[SPEAKER_00]: They got to get back to that, you know, Tony's very good about not forgetting about, you know, past story lines or disregarding them.

01:02:48.848 --> 01:02:52.153
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they've got a touch on it at some point, but, uh,

01:02:52.825 --> 01:02:57.336
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was good, good, welcome back, match for color, Riley.

01:02:57.837 --> 01:03:01.305
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, especially coming off of injury, which was super unfortunate the timing.

01:03:01.325 --> 01:03:02.949
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, awful timing.

01:03:04.051 --> 01:03:05.595
[SPEAKER_02]: So we got it.

01:03:06.277 --> 01:03:07.860
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see, you've done a scene a nutshell.

01:03:09.123 --> 01:03:09.805
[SPEAKER_02]: Great show.

01:03:11.270 --> 01:03:13.052
[SPEAKER_02]: much better after you and I reviewed it.

01:03:13.193 --> 01:03:18.259
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's yeah, because at first, I was like, this is a name I need to show reports.

01:03:18.279 --> 01:03:19.000
[SPEAKER_02]: I really liked about it.

01:03:19.020 --> 01:03:26.310
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think when you kind of tie to all the stories together and what it's going to lead towards for double or nothing in Dynamite specifically at Wednesday, geez.

01:03:26.931 --> 01:03:30.896
[SPEAKER_00]: And especially because I know you were kind of down on the build for a show.

01:03:30.996 --> 01:03:38.847
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you liked the main event matches, you know,

01:03:40.447 --> 01:04:03.737
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the show really delivered, um, it's funny how much we grade a W on its own curve as opposed to against all the rest of professional wrestling like we're, um, I guess not me, but you gotta remember like this was a three to four week build for this show.

01:04:03.777 --> 01:04:10.386
[SPEAKER_00]: There's only so much you can do and that's the beauty of a W is

01:04:10.535 --> 01:04:13.601
[SPEAKER_00]: for the build and they hope that that's what's going to bring you in.

01:04:14.283 --> 01:04:23.762
[SPEAKER_00]: But then they put this card together if just fucking elite talent and matches that you know is going to deliver in and the card did.

01:04:24.323 --> 01:04:26.788
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I thought it was a huge win.

01:04:28.118 --> 01:04:46.347
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I said on a on unplugged, who was the before weeks, which in a lot of cases I just think it's it's a death March for anybody who attempts to put paper views together that quickly your shoe horn or you just hope that your television so compelling in those two to three weeks that you could.

01:04:46.327 --> 01:05:08.993
[SPEAKER_02]: hyper, I mean you could speed this some of the processes up with these matches, but I mean to see three or four matches getting thrown together the Wednesday of and I understand it again it's 28 days it's just yeah I don't know yeah you expect a little bit more but it is rocking a hard place I agree and yes prayer circle for Kyle O'Reilly John Moxley yes absolutely no questions asked

01:05:08.973 --> 01:05:09.654
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

01:05:09.734 --> 01:05:12.076
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, double or nothing's coming up in about a month and a half.

01:05:12.116 --> 01:05:13.137
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's proper bill.

01:05:13.157 --> 01:05:13.998
[SPEAKER_02]: We get into Owen.

01:05:14.138 --> 01:05:33.917
[SPEAKER_02]: We're getting all this stuff coming up and maybe a Darby Allen the AEW heavyweight title when Wednesday night see we type of move that puts you in for classics on Thursday and per top broke nation before you know behind the curtain before we came on me and Jesse talk and so let's just let's keep it short.

01:05:33.957 --> 01:05:36.499
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just shoot for 45 minutes and

01:05:36.715 --> 01:05:40.330
[SPEAKER_00]: Here we are, 20 minutes later than where we wanted to be done.

01:05:42.149 --> 01:05:42.910
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how we rule.

01:05:42.990 --> 01:05:43.711
[SPEAKER_02]: We got excited.

01:05:43.731 --> 01:05:46.413
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, we love to be wrestling with each other.

01:05:48.135 --> 01:05:50.397
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and Andrade's dog's favorite podcast.

01:05:52.459 --> 01:05:53.520
[SPEAKER_00]: I was hoping you'd notice that.

01:05:53.781 --> 01:05:55.162
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I, I'm all certainly did.

01:05:55.242 --> 01:05:58.245
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's just our for these days not to be in an Andrade fan.

01:05:58.285 --> 01:06:00.748
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I thank him for not stealing my girl a couple of weeks ago.

01:06:01.589 --> 01:06:02.610
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's so nice of him.

01:06:05.012 --> 01:06:08.916
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, once again, patrons Thursday night,

01:06:10.246 --> 01:06:12.211
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be a fun one.

01:06:12.431 --> 01:06:15.940
[SPEAKER_02]: Kyle Ross is returning to talk about bread hard a lot.

01:06:17.083 --> 01:06:18.446
[SPEAKER_02]: Just the state of the state.

01:06:18.506 --> 01:06:22.696
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the first Dressel Mania spoiler alert without Hulk Hogan in it.

01:06:24.441 --> 01:06:25.222
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a win.

01:06:26.907 --> 01:06:27.107
[SPEAKER_00]: So.

01:06:27.863 --> 01:06:39.276
[SPEAKER_02]: We had that, and then I will be doing a lot of people of favor in talking a lot about WWE the next week more than I talked about it in a long time.

01:06:39.476 --> 01:06:47.985
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, I get it, there I know, there are some monethical people out there that still really enjoy the product.

01:06:48.005 --> 01:06:52.470
[SPEAKER_02]: So, hey, I love that you talk about it so that I don't have to.

01:06:52.450 --> 01:06:53.392
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I'm here.

01:06:55.036 --> 01:07:00.267
[SPEAKER_02]: I lose sleep for the sacrifice of you because I know you've put it in the old overtime when you're shoot job.

01:07:00.989 --> 01:07:02.232
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I'm doing this.

01:07:03.916 --> 01:07:04.497
[SPEAKER_02]: All for you.

01:07:04.858 --> 01:07:05.780
[SPEAKER_02]: Appreciate your money.

01:07:07.343 --> 01:07:09.007
[SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to Ryan Drossie as well.

01:07:09.087 --> 01:07:12.214
[SPEAKER_02]: We hope you're everything went well for you today.

01:07:13.088 --> 01:07:19.126
[SPEAKER_00]: One more random question, because this is, this is non wrestling, totally unrelated to anything.

01:07:19.166 --> 01:07:25.123
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just somebody I have recently gotten into, are you an MF Doom fan?

01:07:27.702 --> 01:07:32.730
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we could extend this podcast for like 10 more minutes, but we won't.

01:07:33.251 --> 01:07:40.263
[SPEAKER_02]: He's my favorite rapper that is not well known by the mainstream.

01:07:40.303 --> 01:07:41.986
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel he is so good.

01:07:42.787 --> 01:07:43.128
[SPEAKER_02]: Go on.

01:07:43.548 --> 01:07:45.171
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to find the song because it.

01:07:45.657 --> 01:07:54.165
[SPEAKER_00]: I was listening to a podcast where they were talking about him and so then I started deep diving in and he fucking rules.

01:07:54.325 --> 01:07:59.349
[SPEAKER_00]: But he also has a song that was like, God damn, that would kind of made a great entrance song for somebody.

01:08:00.110 --> 01:08:02.713
[SPEAKER_00]: Where the which one was the whole need to tell me what it is.

01:08:04.054 --> 01:08:05.215
[SPEAKER_02]: Perhaps niche cannishes.

01:08:05.795 --> 01:08:06.396
[SPEAKER_00]: No, hey.

01:08:07.297 --> 01:08:08.758
[SPEAKER_00]: I think hey would have been a good one.

01:08:09.218 --> 01:08:09.599
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

01:08:10.219 --> 01:08:10.600
[SPEAKER_00]: That's one.

01:08:10.640 --> 01:08:13.082
[SPEAKER_00]: It's got like the Scooby Doo noise in it.

01:08:13.130 --> 01:08:14.052
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

01:08:14.372 --> 01:08:14.592
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

01:08:14.653 --> 01:08:14.813
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

01:08:14.973 --> 01:08:15.073
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

01:08:15.133 --> 01:08:15.334
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:08:15.354 --> 01:08:16.095
[SPEAKER_00]: I really appreciate you.

01:08:16.115 --> 01:08:16.516
[SPEAKER_00]: Doomsday.

01:08:17.177 --> 01:08:17.357
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:08:17.377 --> 01:08:18.218
[SPEAKER_00]: I really dig that one.

01:08:18.238 --> 01:08:24.168
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, like I didn't think of it in wrestling terms, but obviously all caps is a great fucking song.

01:08:24.909 --> 01:08:26.853
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it is all caps when he spilled the man name.

01:08:28.035 --> 01:08:32.662
[SPEAKER_02]: Whenever you can get a cheperty reference in and one of his songs, so one of my favorites is do do do do do do do.

01:08:32.702 --> 01:08:34.084
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the audio daily double.

01:08:34.706 --> 01:08:36.669
[SPEAKER_02]: Rappers need to fall off just to save me the trouble.

01:08:37.170 --> 01:08:37.450
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:08:38.442 --> 01:08:41.590
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, MFD, I'm how you to listen to more of him tonight as well.

01:08:42.212 --> 01:08:42.613
[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah.

01:08:43.214 --> 01:08:43.535
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:08:43.555 --> 01:08:44.818
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for bringing that up.

01:08:47.205 --> 01:08:49.330
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you, can you attach it to the end of this pod?

01:08:49.512 --> 01:08:54.018
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to, Ryan, sorry.

01:08:54.219 --> 01:08:58.385
[SPEAKER_02]: I know we normally go off the air with like you actually went off the air with MJF.

01:08:58.405 --> 01:09:12.905
[SPEAKER_02]: I think for your feature report podcast finished there for the patrons, we're going off the air with MFQM, which you prefer it with, hey, I like hey, is there one that you prefer?

01:09:12.945 --> 01:09:17.612
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of really good ones.

01:09:19.516 --> 01:09:20.780
[SPEAKER_02]: There's only one beer left.

01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:22.304
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I could go on and on with that, too.

01:09:22.665 --> 01:09:24.390
[SPEAKER_02]: I could just recite Eudolaryx all night long.

01:09:25.514 --> 01:09:25.895
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sorry.

01:09:25.915 --> 01:09:31.652
[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I haven't had a chance to talk to you about wrap in a while, so all man had to bring that up.

01:09:32.105 --> 01:09:37.512
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, uh last thing on that one, I highly recommend listening to his live from New York.

01:09:37.612 --> 01:09:45.242
[SPEAKER_02]: I forgot the name of it, but it has New York in the title, it's just a 35 minute, uh, you can listen to it on Spotify or whatever.

01:09:45.403 --> 01:09:47.165
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just him going through a concert.

01:09:48.547 --> 01:09:49.568
[SPEAKER_02]: And the audience sounds great.

01:09:50.329 --> 01:09:50.589
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:09:51.110 --> 01:09:51.551
[SPEAKER_00]: When was that?

01:09:51.571 --> 01:09:58.720
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he's been, well, I guess he passed away, but yep, he was, he's been gone from the US for quite a while.

01:09:59.746 --> 01:10:01.571
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he, he left and couldn't get back in.

01:10:01.632 --> 01:10:03.878
[SPEAKER_02]: It was early 2000.

01:10:03.918 --> 01:10:06.325
[SPEAKER_02]: It was right when, okay.

01:10:06.947 --> 01:10:08.452
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see, food came out.

01:10:10.077 --> 01:10:14.329
[SPEAKER_00]: Just because I think Mad Villain came out 2004,

01:10:15.203 --> 01:10:18.927
[SPEAKER_02]: And now that I now that I think about it, it was the mad villain album.

01:10:18.947 --> 01:10:20.329
[SPEAKER_02]: So yes, it would have been a little bit later.

01:10:20.489 --> 01:10:21.090
[SPEAKER_02]: So 2000.

01:10:21.110 --> 01:10:34.785
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, by around that time, all time album cover to madville know that that's actually what got me hooked on on doom, honestly, there was a coworker of mine that discovered him, but a couple of his songs, what do you have like, who is this dude?

01:10:34.805 --> 01:10:36.948
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, I don't have to just give me a bunch of his CDs.

01:10:36.968 --> 01:10:38.089
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just like, oh man.

01:10:39.706 --> 01:10:40.127
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:10:40.908 --> 01:10:45.273
[SPEAKER_02]: Easily my favorite rapper that's not known by too many people ever.

01:10:47.216 --> 01:10:50.761
[SPEAKER_00]: I've just dipped my toes in the water and I wanted to talk to you about it real quick.

01:10:51.081 --> 01:10:55.988
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, well, we're going off the air with hey because Jamie Hader looks like Daphne from Scooby-Doo also.

01:10:59.533 --> 01:11:08.785
[SPEAKER_02]: So with that being said, hopefully enjoy our MF Doom nerdness, especially all my

01:11:09.102 --> 01:11:12.612
[SPEAKER_02]: For Justin Joints, my name is Jesse Velasquez, and that has been episode 411.

01:11:12.873 --> 01:11:19.652
[SPEAKER_02]: A top rope nation, and as always, we'll see you on the flip side.

01:11:33.031 --> 01:11:48.610
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