AEW Redemption Reaction, Road to All In Starts Now!

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me continue with it.

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[UNKNOWN]: It is no pain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The better it is, the better it was, and the better the will be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're back here in my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The dream of the clock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've not reached me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: episode four hundred and twenty two of top rope nation i'm your host two night jessie valaska's joined side by side by just in joint that's three jays in a row how are we this evening doing okay doing okay was just out uh... my son had a uh... traveling baseball try out tonight and it is boiling hot outside uh... so that was a tedious two hours and then uh...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a drink in the glass tonight, which actually I'll wait, but you finish your introductions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is yesterday was brutal up here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it did hit 100.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I might have gotten that way here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming since you're a little further south, did you guys cross one, two, one, or three?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where were you guys at?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the high today was, yeah, it was 97, but it's one of those where the temp is 97, but it feels like 10 degrees warmer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was, it's socks, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can't imagine what he's going through on that baseball field.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I always tell stories about how I love the game of baseball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just dread summers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think for that reason, because we lived outside, playing in tournaments with gay rate and just every single thing that accompanies it, there's only three things I wanted to do during the summer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: air conditioning video game is play baseball back with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was trained.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if he does make that team I'm Ash, that's gonna be some tough stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel bad for the parents because it's like they're they're actually learning the specific skills of baseball So it's a very tedious Practice learning all the intricacies, so the parents are boiling all the kids are having fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Oh, man, I

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much the lay of the land here in the upper Midwest and before we ask just in what's in the glass, let's salute.

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[SPEAKER_02]: patreon.com slash top rope nation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The finest people in the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, sir.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have 200 bonus episodes, including King of the Ring 1998, which we recorded last Thursday, I believe, when all three of us decided gin and tonics were the thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, such a great episode, though, and I

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[SPEAKER_00]: except for the show we're about to cover McFulley should always be highlighted, especially when it's retrospective.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So again, patreon.com slash cooperation is where you can support us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to throw the discord link in a little bit later, and if there was anything else that I wanted to touch on Ryan is so much better than this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am here and his daughter's youngest or his youngest daughter's birthday I know is today,

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, gosh, those kids are so fast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I forgot to wish her have birthday, or wish her have birthday through Ryan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't contact directly with his little daughters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you have the kids that are the same age too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't look too far, so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Always ask those questions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Justin, let us know what is in your glass this evening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to appreciate this one, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A couple, not a couple, a few weekends ago, we had just like a booze on the deck with our neighbors, just sipping on drinks and chatting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the wife of the neighbor is Mexican.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we all went out to eat on the way back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Me and Caitlin, my wife, stopped at our local liquor store to find something to sip on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I came across this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a govay as we'll ghost spicy, Repassado, Tequila.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, got what is it they said?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We add a pinch of ghost pepper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's got like this, you take a sip and it's got this immediate kick of heat with tequila and then just kind of slowly goes away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not too bad, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would recommend it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But knowing that this tequila has a bit of a kick to it right before we started podcasting, I went into our garage to grab just a sparkling water to sip on because I know that that can

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[SPEAKER_00]: opening the cardboard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The cardboard slid into my, like, in between my finger and fingernail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, I got this giant cardboard paper cut that hurts like a son of a bitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So long story short, I have already done a shot of that keela just to kind of numb the pain a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's actually drinking with you right now just for that story alone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I do have a great deal of a great tequila Especially if it's clear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we got some questions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You got some people in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Eric good to see you and yes, so nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does burn twice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It does not This one doesn't any okay Any comparison from a heat perspective to 151

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, well, 151.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just more of the alcohol content, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, uh, Nas and one of his songs back in the 2000s said, uh, 151, one sip will make you flip.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, this is more of just like a flavor hot, not like a drinking gasoline or, you know, ever clear something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually has a pretty nice flavor to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you take that initial sip, you can kind of just feel it in the back-year mouth, it just kind of slowly fades away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very refreshing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think for anything like this then, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It gives you a little bit of a kick there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And a felt training camps kicked off, I believe, in the last handful of hours.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're getting closer and closer to that World Cup season just ended.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said last question before we dive into the wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Were you a fan of Spain winning the World Cup?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I was rooting for Argentina just because I'm a messy fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought even though I think the argument is long since over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: figured him winning a second World Cup would kind of put the final nail in the messy or Ronaldo conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That didn't happen, but I think messy is a far superior player, but no, I love the way that the Spain team plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're, I mean, they're just a joy to watch and just kind of glad like, France didn't win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, yeah, I was thrilled at England beat them

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, probably the kind of a weird game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't it ever three nothing right out of the gate and then France storms back in England puts a couple in late to close actually that was the night that I bought that bottle because we were at a local mexican restaurant while that game was on then we came back to which if you come visit you got to come Visit this Mexican restaurant because I told you about the neighbor's wife is Mexican and her mom is very Mexican and this is the only place she's been to that she does not make fun of the food

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then we know it's legit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'll check WrestleDream or Full Gear Weekends and I'll have to make a venture down there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, this is kind of an honor, author, production, real fast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am going to do my damnedest to get to Chicago on that Friday night in September.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I celebrate your, well, I know how

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[SPEAKER_00]: it is it's so funny the mind of a child because my oldest who normally goes to these shows with me found out this weekend from somebody else out oddly enough some of Caitlyn's family members who are like kind of hardcore WWE fans and they got tickets to a w instead of the the w shows but they also

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[SPEAKER_00]: unbeknownst to me had told Kit that I'm going to the AW show and he's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he very sadly asked me about that last night and I was like, oh, sorry, but it's just it's a no-kid strip.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was just like, oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I was relieved because yeah, I've got to broke my hard to have to tell them that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No kidding, that's a really good material level there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At the very end of this show, I mean, it's just going to be me saying, hey, about WWE Summerslam for like 30 seconds because it's in my backyard practically.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But AEW Redemption was last night of Montreal, Cubac, Canada.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Justin grades like we always give for these shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, this show gave us, in my opinion, two bangers, two like absolute, you know, hovering right around the four and a half star range matches, it gave us one other hovering right around the four star, uh, matrading.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the rest of it I thought was incredibly mediocre that made you really feel the length of the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was pretty easily the quote unquote worst A.W.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Paperview, I have seen in a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will go and again, as all of you know, I don't watch to be any more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just grading these against all the other A.W.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would go a sea.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel so much better about my grade.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going B minus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the weight of this is on, I mean, a match we're going to talk about later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was one match I thought was absolutely outstanding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I rewatched it just before we got on the air.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then the rest was there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There were a couple of matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt that overachieved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One that I enjoyed way more than I thought I was going to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll definitely talk about that later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's start, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just one last thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just want to add that, you know, I'm giving this show a C even though it had again two matches hovering around four and a half one match hovering around four and they did that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: without MJF Swerv Derby, Hangman, Tony Storm, Mercedes, Brody, Joe, Ricochet, FTR, Brisco, Statlander, the birds, the divine dominion to Kesha and Ocata.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that, all those guys are like A plus players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, also it's like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: that's pretty impressive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The depth of this roster is quite insane.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this was my point, I think, for arguing against this paper view even being on the air in the first place was that a lot of this stuff was just rushed, I felt, and there was really one match, possibly two, that you could apply the redemption name to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, not just saying there's a couple of people that just completely outkick their coverage, but I mean, I think maybe, yeah, let's get into Kenny Omega and Kevin Knight here right now, but I'd even go lower than that almost.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, I don't almost go D-F, Tim, if it was WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, no, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: if a WWE PLE if you will, if that had even one match that could even kind of approach five stars, that would be an A plus show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty close because there's only five matches these days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In A, W, paper view had in my opinion a borderline five star match and I gave it a C.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, again, there's there's a lot of things that we're going to get into right now and give you some rationale for the reasons for our grades like it let's touch on a right away can you make a Kevin night so I know you have been predicting this for six months at least you were thinking that Kevin night would maybe get that all out many friends

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[SPEAKER_02]: You get that slot as either the champion going in or just that up-and-comer who's like, hey, my time right now is to shine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're putting this in the middle of the main event in Canada, in between the two, well, in between forbidden door in all in and the match ended up going 25 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's another problem I think on this night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of these matches overstate they're welcome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And let's go look into the post match and go a little bit later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thoughts overall on the chemistry and the match flow is a whole.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the match I was referring to, but I thought was a borderline five star match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the best Kenny Omega match I've seen in quite a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to me it was truly we've been talking about Kevin night for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but this really felt like it's coming out party, being in the main event of a paper view and truly looking the part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And going back to Kenya Omega, I thought he, in that part of this is just the character he's playing right now heading into all in where he probably needs to lean a little bit more heel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but I saw a real edge from Kenny Omega.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was laying his shit in, if you will, like, never before, in my opinion, not never before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like I said, in a very long time, he felt like World Champion Kenny Omega to me tonight for the first time in a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I thought these two had tremendous chemistry and just kudos to Tony Confer continuously giving these up and comeers a chance to shine in in big many events, not you, Jack Perry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for the most part, his hit rate is is incredible and Kevin night, he's a dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm going to say in the next year and a half he's going to be World Champion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he has, and he's, it shows in his moves.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He has some Rob Van Damd to him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he showed you more of that last night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think with a couple of the spots where Kenny Omega hit the V trigger on him and he folded like an accordion looking like gummi, right then in there, I'm like, that's our VD.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The, the

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[SPEAKER_02]: the coast to coast, which is what the vantarminator was the basis of it all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Rob Van Dam.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The frog splash, adding his own little twist.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Van Dam.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's got a little bit of that charisma factor too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, where Rob is a little bit different, he just comes across as cool Kevin kind of has that same vibe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yes, the two lead chemistry, there were spots in there that I really enjoyed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think Kenny Omega and Doses, which is what we're about to get from him in this world title reign is absolutely best for, not just the audience before his career too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he can do this for course all in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think he's gonna be ready and ready and ready to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no rusties, he's gonna turn it up in notch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I told you right before we came on because you had said you had just recently rewatched two of the matches and that this is the match I need to rewatch because again I felt a lot of this card was very mediocre and in the paper views are fucking long and I was tired by the time this match came along but I thought they worked

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[SPEAKER_00]: a main event style that I wasn't sure Kevin Knight could do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just thought he performed beautifully.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by beautifully, I mean, like in a professional wrestling sense where, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: everything was was was hard hitting but made sense um yeah I just can't say enough about it like I'm not going to give star ratings until like I can watch some of this stuff again but man did this this was the highlight of the show for me

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[SPEAKER_02]: They took a bit more time to sell the larger spots too, which is super important.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's exactly what you're alluding to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Omega does retain.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The big part was the fallout angle that lasted a while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't realize that was going to happen with the death writers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll probably tie that in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we'll go to the tag match next because it ties into this story pretty beautifully.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the Death Riders make their way out to the ring and start to beat up Kenny Omega.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And John Moxley's going to put the final nail in the coffin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Outcomes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll ask Bray.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, going to be opposing Omega in Wembley.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He stops him from doing any sort of damage to him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's just having this confliction with character.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So all of this so far makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Will and John go back and forth and will finally just unleash this huge forearm after moxley for a couple minutes had a bag very similar to this application bag that they used on Brian Danielson back in September of 24.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he said, well, if I'm not, yeah, I'm not going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's very similar to the interview that Renee had with Will, John interrupted and just said, if you're not going to pull the trigger, I'm going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's pretty much giving him one more final chance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Will's not lays the wood to him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The rest of the deathwriters try to come in, ask for a fight some off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we get this like two and a half three minute embrace with Osprey and Omega.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thoughts on the execution of it all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the moment, watching last night, I wasn't super feeling it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I was almost kind of expecting something bigger to happen just because of T as you alluded, it went on for quite a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But as I've sat with it throughout today and thinking about it,

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's perfect, it makes complete sense with everybody's characters, you know, you're going to all in where Osprey is going to be a huge baby face and I think Omega needs to lean in to the

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I'll wait to talk about the Osprey part of it until we talk about the Bucks match, but everything made sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's all kind of coming together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This, you know, you did we do this until stories.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is long-term storytelling that you really have to pay attention to the intricacies of what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, like I said, the more I thought about it, I can't think of a better way to get to a baby face, first baby face, main event at your biggest show of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it worked on me eventually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, it was good, but it's also, you know, it's that paper views too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was tired by 11 o'clock.

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[SPEAKER_02]: this moment four hours and forty eight minutes I believe so even with the one hour drawback and still when close to five hours on a paper view that no right going that all all reserved that for all in that that's exactly what you want to do in these types of scenarios so the big part was Omega and Osprey they hugged out at the end they both climb the ropes

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[SPEAKER_02]: In callback to Kenny Omega becoming the leader of the Bullock Club and kicking AJ Styles out of the group will ask for AJ Styles with that sync crew there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Omega hits the one-wig at Angel as Osprey is posing from the top rope, which again, exactly what Omega did to Styles up a little over 10 years ago today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The bucks are at ring side, looking a little bit confused.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They all hit their pose, and we go off the air.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yes, Kenny is gonna have to lean a little bit heal here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Does there really need to be that heal versus face dynamic, even though we know Will is gonna be the shining baby face in his home country, because Omega is definitely beloved by a lot of the faithful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it helps a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It helps the story a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not big enough stars that you can do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're, we're not gonna get limp biscuit playing over a montage of, you know, the rockin' Austin going into WrestleMania 17.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's kind of the vibe I was getting from it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I'm pro them leaning into,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Omega's got that killer instinct back just because we've we've gone so much these last few years that you know with his health status and winning and losing and the diverticky light is and you know will he won't leave that I think that's a big reason why I like the edge so much in him getting that one winged angel and the pose to finish the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't mean I think there's any chance he's going to win at all in, but that's also not the point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what he's going back to the Omega Night match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I took it down a little small peg for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just that the outcome wasn't out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But here, Eric Vallepoint as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I mean, that's exactly it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, an awful heel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that the whole one-wagon angel was a receipt for Kenny spending months warning will.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then even considering putting the bag on his head, just kind of protect himself in that aspect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, we're definitely the huge fallout here Wednesday night with Will Osprey and the Death Riders specifically John Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But let's tie it in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You had Osprey and Moxley in the second match of the show face the young bucks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's some history of with all these men.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The bucks lost their EVP status to Osprey and Swarov last year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The young bucks wrestled Moxley and Eddie Kingston in 2020, one of my favorite tag matches I've seen in this promotion's history as well from Double Learn Nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The box end up getting the win, which didn't surprise me much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was just kind of the way that they did and Osprey again kind of not necessarily fainting weakness, but just showing either sympathy or empathy for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the box, especially with that collision and how that was sold with Osprey, Nick Jackson, headbudding each other and like the first two minutes of the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you like the construction here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am not always the biggest fan of box matches, but the way they incorporated the story they've been telling into this match that later on went into the main event, I thought was pitch perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the story of Osprey not willing to quote unquote pull the trigger on Nick right Nick was the one who's with the concussion course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it because like the story has been that he needs his killer instinct and if he's going to get the world title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what the death writers have been helping him with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and you've seen him leaning into, that into matches, especially the spots where his opponent will be lying prone and he's still doing that huge elbow to the back of their head, which is a brutal looking spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's in like the, the bounds of competition, within the walls of competition,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just beat his opponent and here there's a fluke and his opponent is just kind of flukeishly hurt and so that takes away the competitive part of it for Will Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It reminds me of and I don't feel like this is a spoiler for anybody who's seen the Odyssey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things that Odysseus does when he's hunting is right before he kills an animal, he plucks his bow as almost a warning to the animal to give them and kind of his thought a fair shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, you know, now he's really got to try.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The animals got a chance to get away or attack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of what it felt like to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like he plucked his bow,

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[SPEAKER_00]: couldn't really respond.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that made a lot of sense to me in just the construction of the match overall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought was really perfectly executed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't have said it any better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the one thing again that just knocks it down a peg from being like an excellent match to like where some people have it to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would drop it a little bit below.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those four fifties with the weirdest thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nick Jackson takes that four fifties and gets right back up just sells nothing and goes into another move.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I go, oh, that's such a buck trope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: wrong time to do it, uh, it just, yeah, you just had a kind of a brain fart, I think, would be the the call there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Outside of that, though, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, uh, just, they're, they are very good storytellers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we know that they're high spot freaks, but when it, when it comes down to like the 80, 80 details, not many tag teams have done it better, at least in this generation, I would say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The finish,

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[SPEAKER_00]: felt a little weird, but to me it also made sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mox ended up on his own, you know, taking multiple super kicks because he's, you know, kind of once again, pushed away people with his tunnel vision of how things should be done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and, you know, me threw up the double birds and then ate a super kick party.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And before that, Osprey got crushed with a with a chair.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's holding a chair in the book, super intense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm retainously in pretty much knocked him senseless.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Smash went 20 minutes, but definitely had all the all the makings of a phenomenal match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They nailed it all down,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was advanced what we were looking at the meat event and it should be stated and I hadn't really given it much thought going into the match because I mean we're talking about John Moxley and Will Osprey, you know Moxley, multi time world champion just won the C2 one of the main players of AEW we're talking about Will Osprey who's going into the main event of all in

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess just in the back of my head, it's like, well, they're gonna win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're there, the bigger players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But of course, the young bucks had to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we knew that the plan was gonna be a tag title matching all in with Copen Cage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I actually, I love the fact that the box won.

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[SPEAKER_02]: With you, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it didn't make either guy, it didn't make boxed look week whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't been eating any pins recently.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, to lose to the first time this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, to lose to one of the best tag teams in the world, there's definitely no slight there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go back up to the top and we'll just scroll all the way back down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll end with the women's championship, because that's probably gonna be an interesting topic as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How they opened the show was the six-man ladder match which was opened late, who just like Tony Conna now, stood late with six, like you have five high flyers and beast mortos.

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[SPEAKER_02]: basically for a shot at the international championship and I lost complete focus in this because tropes with all the ladders and the one-on ones and guys like poking their head in the corner waiting for their spots just got to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't care at all about the high spots.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about you in this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have ladder match fatigue and it's weird because like

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[SPEAKER_00]: were executed perfectly, you know, that, that commander running the ropes to the, gosh, was it was in a moon salt to the outside through a table?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, why the fuck are you climbing a ladder to try and get the belt?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just it makes everything kind of meaningless.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like, everything was well done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Spots looked incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but I just didn't care, although I was happy to see and obviously a very joyful speedball get the win and is in his home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it's gonna kinda tie, and we'll all talk about it later because there's a match I wanna talk about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, we'll talk to them in the next one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: where Bailey is going to fall into this pattern.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then again, this is what's designated for him is jobbing to the guys that are superior in this promotion and that you're going to give stories to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, yeah, there were a lot of highlights in this one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, if it's, you've seen one high spot fest, you've seen them all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we really don't have to go over, I think too much in this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here was my match of the night and another match that I mean it had sense of it being fantastic but the way that it was built and I'm nervous I'm not nervous for I think I can pretty much stamp Bandito as somebody who's worthy of much much more but he's going to continuously fall short because I just it's not necessarily maybe not the connection maybe it's just Tony Khan doesn't see that connection or doesn't display the character

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[SPEAKER_02]: He and Kyle Fletcher for that AW international championship, that was a, that's the match I just got sent watching fan flipping tactic, but I'm not surprised.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What about you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, these are legit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Arguably two of the top three maybe four wrestlers in the world right now when it comes to just in ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was up, and they got plenty of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it was got the most time on the entire card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What hurt it for me is, I just didn't think there was any chance, Ben Dito was winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that he lost socks, he's your bring-of-on-a-world champion, and he's eaten like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it like three or four straight A, W, paper view losses now in a row?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, why is he ring of honor, real champion?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Followed, he does is just lose on your on on the shows that you have the most eyeballs on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, uh, it just kind of kills me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish they'd just go back to Bro Dito, you know, instead of, instead of doing this, but I mean, he is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again, just like the main event, these two have incredible, incredible chemistry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Holy shit, that, that, do that frog splash to the outside was just chef's kiss perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that, that look like it fucking killed Kyle Fletcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm right there with you, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I give the slightest of nods for my match the night to Omega and Knight just because of the higher stakes and Kevin Knight feels like he's on a little bit better trajectory right now than Bandito is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even though I didn't think in a million years, Knight was gonna win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I would have had a guess, if Knight or Bandito were gonna win last night, I would have put the slightest of edge to Knight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it just left a little bit more of a question to me in the main event.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think either way you went, it's like 2% to 1%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, you can insert Eric by the way, Spider-Man pointing me with Bandito and Athena when it comes to this, like needing to drop the ROH title to get a push in A, W, I mean, I've been saying that about Athena.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we all have on this show, it's ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now it's to a point where I think Tony Khan's just installed in us that it's

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[SPEAKER_02]: Especially with all the mouths you get a feed at the top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because we just mentioned the top of the show, like who wasn't on the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good grief.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you have to wonder if those guys are going to come back for all in, you would assume that most of them are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So where does that leave a guy like Bandy though?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think to the point of you made, ProDito is still getting tag team wins over established teams.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they look strong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, but now the tag team division's about to get a bump in the next couple of weeks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, where's that gonna leave them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you do?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But another tag match that fell after that was the Bang Bang Gang taking on, yeah, you give this name looks I am the dogs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was some ruggedness to it that I enjoyed, but at times it just was super clunky.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jay White getting dumped on his head was a scary thing in this match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, I think you're kind of shrug kind of says it all with this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This match fucking sucked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand with the history of chain matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand that this wasn't necessarily a dog collar match, but it still involved chains

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[SPEAKER_00]: FTR and the briskos or punk in mjf and these guys have this match with this flimsy looking chain where they're just basically whip in each other the entire fucking time with no blood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I literally spent almost the entire second half of the match googling like blading restrictions and Montreal is as there ever been blood and Montreal wrestling like I was so confused.

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[SPEAKER_00]: why we didn't have juice in this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think even if you had the exact same match with blood, it's still what a start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just not a good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, these guys just didn't have it tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a fan of a lot of them, but this did not work at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was the beginning of my God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like two hours of mediocrity,

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[SPEAKER_00]: A. W. MediaCree for the for a paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one bright spot and they were going to talk about a little bit later, I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like Jeremy Feinstein has said a couple of times on my show, Jay White and David Finley deserve more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like those two deserve a really good story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you can connect it with all the stuff that they did in New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the way that Jay White was reintroduced back in the W kind of played into this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, do do it on Dynamite then?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, give him more of a spotlight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you absolutely have to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this case to our point that a lot of these matches were TV style matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I did see someone else make this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do wonder if we didn't see bloodness because a certain somebody may be used their political weight to make sure that their match was the only one of blood in it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: getting to that soon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hikaru Shita defended her TBS championship against my old world on her birthday no less happy birthday my world turned 24 yesterday your birthday present is the A. W. TBS championship.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She wanted to match that was fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Another one that I feel she'd been suited for TV and Hikaru Shita has been doing some better character work as a heel lately and I do feel sorry for because this is the second rain in a row of

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[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is, yeah, I mean, it just goes a show where she falls in the pecking order and, I mean, there really isn't much more you can do about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just a filler and a cool moment for a young burgeoning performer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right woman one, I did not care for this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could not get invested in it when a W started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shida was the woman that really caught my eye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh, she could be the one that carries this Division for a while, but she has lost a lot of steps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not what she once was her winning the TBS title really had me scratching my head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My assumption is just a lack of depth in the women's division right now

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I'm completely in your boat, and that's why we gave the grades for from our layer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of here's another one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you had Adam Copeland, Christian Cage, defeating the Death Riders.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is their second consecutive match against a Death Riders team, where they defeated Wheeler, Yuta, and Daniel Garcia on Dynamite of Week or Two of Go, and it was really strange that Pack and Claudio Cast and you only got a title shot when I don't think they've even teamed in the last hand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So kind of WWE, I should say so myself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_02]: And is this another one for you that was just there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, very mediocre.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As anybody who listens to the podcast, no, I am not really into the Copeland experience and A, W. Love Cage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I found myself watching this match, not hating it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I thought it was like a decent like borderline three star match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've just found myself watching it thinking I've really enjoyed back in Claudio way more than I do the actual AW tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like their aesthetic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the way they work together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a nice balance to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, gosh, I just wish they were the world tag team champions, you know, kind of the same with Broditos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gosh, I wish they were the tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just kind of a slog where again, for like the majority of this card, you kind of knew who was gonna win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did a decent job of building up drama.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I liked Cope getting taken out way out into the crowd and eventually making his way back in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it comes never in question and that's a real issue when you have multiple matches like that in a row that are going to that 15 minute range on a car that is almost five hours.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely wolf and in that aspect.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Tony Cons doing this as a service to Adam Copeland and Chris Christian Cage is careers, I think, from what they've done in the past to give these guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The title run, give them the shine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's probably going to be taken away from then on at all, and finally, and obviously, there's going to be a brand-spanking new direction to move in with that tag team division once and so over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We hope so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Peter, glad to see you in the chat here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm agreeing to greens with you, getting Jay White away from the Bang Bang gang.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing with this stable at this point?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I disagree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the Bang Bang gang, so they're not really doing anything interesting with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like him as the head of that group.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The guns.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to see them back in the tag division.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're still young.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They are former champions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They just got back from injury too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here's the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I probably liked a little bit more than everybody else, not saying it was a world-beater, but it was entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tomorrow's Champa, Chris Jericho, no holds barred match, and Champa entertained the shit out in this match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: From the Bobby or stuff with the Boston, because that's where he's from, with the helmet, and the spots, and using the Montreal Canadians, mini mascot as a weapon,

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[SPEAKER_02]: This one did go about five minutes too long as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I definitely agree at overstate, it's welcome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But at times, I was entertained.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel these two actually do have some pretty decent chemistry together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you are gonna throw a match in this car that needs a stipulation, this is definitely it to kind of mask what type of iteration we're getting out of Chris Jericho.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What did you think of this match?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't hate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was mildly entertained.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, I don't care for Chris Jericho and I care even less about the pain maker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is just very corny to me in today's AEW.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do enjoy Champa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Couldn't give a shit less about the hockey stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a hockey guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't care about the stuff to animal that was worked in the match multiple times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, it just a lot of it came off as pretty hokey to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like something you would have seen outside of the blood in WWE.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The mirrors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't mind the hockey puck spots.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, again, that's just me being in NHL fans.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this match in a sense kind of catered to me in a way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's the only way that I could watch in a somewhat entertaining Christiano match in 2026.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say I'm morbidly kind of want to rewatch it because I think for sure,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chris Jericho just stuck thumbtacks to his head, because they had the spot where like, chomp a pole out the, the, the pucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he rubbed it on Jericho's head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he like just kind of swipe some of his blood onto Jericho's forehead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in that moment, Jericho did not have any thumbtacks stuck to his forehead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the next time you saw him, he had thumbtacks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he just did that for a fun visual, fun quote unquote.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought it was a kind of cool way to end the match to with Jericho threatening to use the power drill and Chomp was just like, I don't want to get lobotomized.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Get me out of here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, that was, I wish they shouldn't have shown the drill so closely, because you could see how much they'd doled the end of it to where there was just basically a ball, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's, it is what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I wish Chomp all the best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've enjoyed his A, W, run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 100% and unfortunately, yeah, I think he's just he slot it into where he's supposed to be here from here on out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of, I'm kind of scared what kind of air Jericho is going to occupy going forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I guess I like the Chomp a few just because

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he's going to be on my TV all the time, like this felt like a good use of Jericho.

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[SPEAKER_00]: against Champa, but like going forward like what the fuck is he gonna do it all in?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just a little concerned about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully not on the card at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He will be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He came back against Ricochet, another guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like, hey, Ricochet got the Winnipe first in Jericho evened up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, see you in the pattern.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he really are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So who's next in that pattern?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully it's somebody that we don't like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Andrade defeated Mark Davis to win the AW national championship and two guys at work that work very hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like both their styles and other matches just kind of felt like it was there and for a guy who's wanting to chase AW world title have been very adamant about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: His consolation prize at this point is to be the national champion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Would you think overall here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, considering how much to your point, he's been talking about the world title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: felt a little bit like a consolation prize for him to be this excited to win a title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's been in existence for less than a year and it's kind of being hopped a title at around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I liked because didn't he get

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[SPEAKER_00]: the big elbow right at the beginning of the match and I thought it was over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have fucking love that if that was the match exactly where I was going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We kind of need that on a show like this and then they just continue to have your kind of typical AW television match I would say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this didn't feel like a very this wasn't special to me by any means.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: three, three and a quarter, something like that, again, like a lot of these matches in the middle of this show, felt like it overstated, it's welcome, but I'm happy for a drawty, and I'm keeping an eye on that hair because it's a lot of sweat compared to everybody else on this show and I appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It would have been brilliant to end that match in 10 seconds because it would have been a completely off guard and you can call fluke and they could go out

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great column comments.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Eric shout out to you on this one because it's we're two weeks away, which by the way, that's where Speedball Mike Bailey's going to get his international title shot against Kyle Fletcher is in Grandslam, Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're going to put on, draw a give him some gold going into that show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, yeah, that's going to be that'll be a fun night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If it's anything like it was last year, mystical in the music and hangman page,

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[SPEAKER_02]: have me at hello, where you have me at Ola one week before we get to the women's match that I want to talk about talk about that cringe where the backstage segment what the fuck was that, Jesse?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Divine Dominion that's Megan Bane and Lena Cross.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're interviewed by Mick Foley for about two minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It basically threatened him, told him to sit down in a chair while they

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[SPEAKER_02]: make fully barking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like almost sarcastically pretending to snoop dog in monotone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was a mouth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was very cringy and embarrassing and

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[SPEAKER_00]: didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did not say, and I want fully to go away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, keep trying stuff with them, but this one didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a really awkward segment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're finally going to get those two women in a pretty high profile match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming it all in taking on Alex Windsor and Jamie Hater.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some worthy competition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say I liked that in the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they did it three times where after a match was done, and you kind of knew where the direction was going, they showed the all-in, what would you call it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Screen shot, graphics, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did that with the tag title match, the World Title match, and I believe with the match we're about to come to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the young bucks came out after that Copen Christian match confronted them and that's when they show the graphic for all in as that will be a for now in a world tag team title match between two teams we don't know where this one's going to go what's your preference keep it that way or add teams keep it that way same

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you don't want to interject it right away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's actually a really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, do you think it'd be a good spot at the end of the match to have coffee and woods come out or have them do a before or when do you pull that card?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wondering if you have FTR during the match come out to try and interfere in that's how new day comes out to stop them maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you have like, you can build to another match

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[SPEAKER_00]: Copen Cage and the Young Bucks, while you also have the new day and FTR feud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would be, I will say, as much as I wanted to be Young Bucks versus Copen Cage, just a clean, tag title match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be shocked if that's what the ends up being.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That FTR is an involved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I completely agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And a team that I don't want involved that likely be debuting on Wednesday night is the most motor city machine guns.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not worthy of that spot whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm good on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mind them being in the tag division, but they don't need to be in that kind of a high profile match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, not right now, anyways.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get to it, Willow Knight and Gail, the challenger for the W Women's World Title takes on Teclo in a pretty physical confrontation that at times was fine and just the way that it ended abruptly with Willow getting the scoop pin avoiding the stomp from Teclo after a spear using a backslide to win and become the new women's world champion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have mixed feelings on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had an inkling this was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a matter of Tecla.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I think now that her Julia Hart and Sky Blue are Trio's champions in Stardom.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Julia's going to be participating in the Grand Prix.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they want to use Tecla more in that promotion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But before we get there, would you think of the match and with Mercedes watching in the box?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think both women put on a good performance, but the match was really hurt by a weird finish to your point, like you're building to this big Willow Night and Gayle Mercedes Monet match it all in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she gets what looks to be a kind of like a fluke win against Tecla that was weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But more so than that, it was a dead crowd that truly hurt this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, maybe that was just my TV, but to me, it didn't sound like the crowd was into this match at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just remember feeling when Willow won that she deserved a better response.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was poised to win the Owen Hart tournament.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Got hurt, got replaced.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe Mercedes might have replaced her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a few replacements in that tournament.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Willow was slated to win the title at all in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But instead, she got healthy just enough with her shoulder and such to get inserted in this slide, it was kind of an ice cold way to put her into that casino gauntlet and then two weeks later have a match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have her cut a couple of promos with a conglomeration.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and this is how she wins the title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you get Willow and Mercedes, which was also rumored to be the feud after all in, you're just going to rush it another month in advance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it also kind of brings the question of transitional champions with Kenny winning that championship at Beachbreak, likely being a placeholder for Osprey, is Willow going to do the same thing when in reality this is not something she deserves.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She probably should have a length of your run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is gonna be a short run, unfortunately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't help but think about like, while watching the match, you know, and thinking about all in, it's like, what's the biggest women's match you could have with the highest potential?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, God, I think it would have been Mercedes and Tecla, you know, if you would have brought Mercedes back as a baby face,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I know she's better as a heal, but Fox just even just give her a short baby face run, you know, you can turn her right back to heal as soon as she wins the world title, you know, you know, you know, the next uh, dynamite after all in, but Yeah, something just felt off about all of this and I, yeah, I just feel bad because of the reaction for Willow sucked and Dear point, she's probably just gonna be a transitional champion here

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although, I don't know, like, is that a little too obvious that both your main world champions are going to have these tiny little reins?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I told Patron of the show Tim Jensen that Willow Knight and Gail is going to retain the title at all in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a weird hunch, even though Mercedes is definitely the one you want carrying this division, especially at this exact point in time, if you're going to take the belt away from Teclo and move her over to Japan for a few months, but it's almost too obvious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Willow in at all in would be the truly crowning moment of her as world champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because right now, you know, she just kind of feels like a, you know, a second thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's such a disappointment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And in a way, that's kind of what they did with my a world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would have loved to see him with somebody with her experience or lack there of go to ROH, defeat Athena.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just like the biggest staple in your possible cap and move Athena to the main roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now they had to have Athena break Roman Reigns's record, so hopefully they can move on from that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mission accomplished!

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that was every single match on the card that we both created a little bit lower than normal for an AWS show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's been a while since they've had a paper view like this, but they were definitely some bright spots on this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it just goes to show how incredible of a run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: AWS has been with their paper views that you get a show with like I already said, nine times, to above four star matches, another one that I consider around four stars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and we're given it seas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to water board me now, Jesse, with a little bit of WWE talk?

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[SPEAKER_02]: In a moment, and it's going to be really, really fast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really have much to say on it right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In the corner of the screen there, I put up the tapropination.com slash discord logo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is commentary conversation in there on a daily basis.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Many things that we talk about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a live.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not just wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Things happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Justin will live in the movie chat up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, see you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just watched a obsession the other night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fucking incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's on peacock right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Highly recommended.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is good to know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am looking forward to because I have not seen Odyssey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will at some point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a Marvel guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Spider-Man is out this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will be seeing it Monday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to Spider-Man way more than I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doomsday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that, that off air.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that trailer wasn't, didn't look very good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The hard part is Robert Downey Jr. playing a villain when he's been Iron Man for the last decade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For me, it was coming off of the Odyssey with all the practical, special effects, and then just seeing this kind of gray CGI typical, like, I don't know, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Spider-Man, all of those spider-man movies have to live.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's likely going to do it again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, one more quick thing again, patreon.com slash top prognation again is where you can find us in support as only five bucks a month.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can also subscribe to our YouTube plus channel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know a handful of people have done that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is 299.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Very simple.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can watch all of our videos, including our classics reviews.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got a little bit nutty for King of the Ring 1998.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was the Jit and Tonics talking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, and reviewing what was an interesting show to say the least, but basically a one and a half match card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but yeah, if I wanted to have highly memorable, super glad that we finally took care of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is, I just might take me a minute.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just struck 59, so here we go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: WWE Summerslam is here in the Twin Cities this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have very little interest in purchasing a ticket, I might look for the dirt cheapest of dirt cheapest tickets or find somebody I know to connect me with it for Saturday night just because Obafemmy and Brock Lesnar are in the bottom with CM Punk and Cody Rhodes in the main.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sunday, like, there's like minimal interest there for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know Chad Gable get an intercontinental title probably went over Penta in Roman rated Seth Rollins.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those absolutely nothing for me to close the entire weekend out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those 40 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could have sworn I saw on

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[SPEAKER_00]: somewhere in my social media is that, Oben, Brock, we're gonna make it that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not the case.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it is, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I went to my trusty cage match, which they're usually pretty accurate when it comes to where cards are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it showed both of those matches on Saturday night which made me very happy, because I was like, all right, if there's that shot, I go out and see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd want those two matches in the same card it just so happens as where they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, I got distracted by Supposedly tomorrow to rosin sign with the sixers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So don't quote me on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is strange.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is not a reliable source She's not a reliable source, but Well, we could have been be talking about a month and a half.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's gonna be a lot of cheese.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What a weird year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's gonna be I know

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[SPEAKER_02]: Lots of lots of Cummings and goings in the NBA and I'm just pay the wolves with a fifth destination for the Brown James Congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You actually made least you made the list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there is the potential by the way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tomorrow is the 10 year anniversary of top rope nation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is the potential that Ryan will get on the air with one of us to talk about moments.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think one thing is clear, like if I just so happen, I don't make it because I'm not available at night, just as unavailable during the day, I will send my thoughts out to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll send them to the discord or I'll send them to Ryan and Justin themselves and let them play them for you on the year, but we'll figure it out as we go, because there's there's some happenings going on here in T.R.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and land that we'll be discussing with you in the future one way or the next because the show is not the same without our fearless leader, Ryan Drossie, that is 1,000 percent correct, so Justin, we held the foredown and went over an hour.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... perfect timing that keela is really kicking in right now uh... and with that being said what a great way to go out for just enjoying funny is just the last is that it's been episode four hundred in total top rope nation take care of the