April 2, 2026

AEW Still The Best Live Wrestling Experience, WrestleMania Is Lacking

AEW Still The Best Live Wrestling Experience, WrestleMania Is Lacking
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A jam-packed show this week after a particularly busy week for the TRN hosts. We touch base on everything the three of us have been up to, including attending last week's Collision and Dynamite. We compare the AEW live experience to WWE and give our thoughts on why AEW is still the best ticket when it comes to pro wrestling live events. Then, some thoughts on Chris Jericho's return to AEW and the lackluster build to WrestleMania 42.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Leave me to do it, it is no pain!

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[SPEAKER_03]: The better it is, the better it was, and the better it will be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're back here, in my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The only way to cry, It not reach me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's up everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's episode 410 of top rope nation, Ryan Drossie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesse Velasquez, Justin joint, and boy, guys, our Monday night time slot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That lasted a long time, huh?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot of us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did an entire one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, consecutive one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're back here on a Thursday night at our old time slot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, we'll probably still go on Mondays occasionally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this week was a very, very busy week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was hard for us to fit in on Monday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I attended the Springsteen tour opener on Tuesday evening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was getting ready for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin and I went to AW Collision this past Saturday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesse went to Dynamite the week before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we kind of got to a point where we decided, this is wait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to see what happens on Dynamite this week and then do our show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So here we are Thursday night, Justin, how are you doing tonight?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm great, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No kidding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like the, oh no, we lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like I was I was just waiting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's he gonna say?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was pausing just to like for impact or something I know and Dante you're gonna listen to the replay tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you're gonna do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm working Oh, I see this other chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little hint about someone that was mentioned there by Peter in the chat here Oh, oh, yeah, if he wants to subscribe to

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[SPEAKER_00]: Patreon he probably should because I throw that, oh no, in my Roger Gary social media segment of the week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and it's from the old intro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you hear a little bit of that rock music in the background.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I always do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You did that on the most recent episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, is he back?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's Justin joint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's back?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fox eight cheese.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was, we were like, we're waiting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thought you're going to say something, particularly deep or something, because you're like, no joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, freeze.

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[SPEAKER_01]: dramatic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin's back on the straight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What were you going to say, Justin?

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is about as excited I've been in a long time to talk professionally, professional wrestling with you guys and it's all because I feel reinvigorated because I went to a live pro wrestling show and it's just the best man when it is good, it is really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dante in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I watch live, then what will I listen to when working tomorrow?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Dante, we appreciate the YouTube click.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Getting us get our view count up and enjoy the show tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Peter, I write for this references in a second ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, if I get talk just a minute, I say anyone else still mentally expect the Kyle Ross.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, sound clip in the intro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to make a little hint later in the show about Kyle Ross.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe something we can get into participate in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, more in that a little bit, Jesse, how are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, 100%, I was able to drive a car home tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yay!

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[SPEAKER_01]: There we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: yeah saturday from saturday on it's been walking getting rides taking buses u bring a couple times who life without a car is rough rough stuff i think some people who who don't drive yeah i envy you like having to time bus schedules out leaving an hour early all that stuff but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still able to catch all of my wrestling that I wanted to, which we're going to talk about later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious, Ryan, to hear about your Springsteen experience, which I completely forgot to ask you about, because a client of mine went to the show as well, and he gave it to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In real quick, before he gives us that info, he left out the beginning of his week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was Bob Dylan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, that went.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last Wednesday night, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a busy time around the household.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is why we didn't do the show on Monday night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, Ryan did inform us with all that driving, you know, to pay for all that gas, he's taken it out of me and Jesse's Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that, hey, look, super chats are open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you want me to pay these guys, donate to the super chats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're drawing the Patreon page.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to say, kind of sold the better myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell us about Springsteen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the Bruce Concerer was freaking awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've never been to a tour opener like that before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that was my 9th, 19th Springsteen show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First one I got to take my kids to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Took my two older kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a blast at the Target Center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously he's got the new song about Minneapolis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was particularly powerful when he played it there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He talked a lot about what's been going on in Minneapolis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He played purple rain kind of towards the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and man, that was incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In Minneapolis, right across the street from first Avenue, purple lights throughout the arena, uh, amazing stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, honestly, this was probably for a lot of different reasons and my top five Bruce shows have ever seen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He with the him and the band were on point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think a lot of just the overarching themes of what's been going on and what his music stands for and some of the things that he stood that he set on the stage were pretty powerful and yeah, it was incredible night I'm really really glad I went.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two things on that Tom Morello was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've seen him, I believe once with Springsteen, once or twice, I saw him get on stage with him at Riggly and play Tom Jode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, now on this tour, he's playing with Bruce in the band the whole night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're even Sonic Tom's merch next to the Springsteen and the E Street merch out on the on the con course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, yeah, if you've never seen Tom Relo guests on the ghost of Tom Jode,

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[SPEAKER_01]: watch it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was great and concert, but he, I mean, he was awesome on all the songs too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love Tom Morello, so seeing him live, too, was pretty great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the second one, there was rumors that Bruce wanted to play first Avenue on Friday night before the no king show, the net or the no king's protests rally the next day in St. Paul.

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[SPEAKER_00]: it was booked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was at the concert that it was booked on that Friday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I went to a concert too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I went to a cover band at first Avenue called Quarter Life Crisis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They played punk covers, like all American rejects, no doubt, fallout boy, stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it was a really entertaining show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think I would have much rather seen Bruce.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, that was like about a month ago him and Tom Rell did the kind of off-the-cuff concert there that I saw some of those clips on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God, if you had done it on a show like that, that would have been great, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never seen a show at first Avenue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been to the deep O-bar next to it a few times, but actually I've been in the main club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's it's worth going to at least once and it I don't think it necessarily matters who the artist is but like getting Bruce in there And he now is a star I believe it's on the side of the outside of the wall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on the outside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We walked right past it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah I think they just added that and I saw the purple rain star when I was walking in there There's also the the side club of seventh of Main Street.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot the earth first I have a bird to grab the name of it

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[SPEAKER_01]: there's a smaller club it's attached to it that a lot of hands play in next door okay yeah we wanted to play it's called the depot next to it where they have like a bar and stuff I don't know if that's it or not but that place is cool

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, that that place the other venue is sandwiched right in between the depot and first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why the depot doesn't get more business to be honest with you, especially where it's located.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They actually have decent food to in my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We went there just and I believe after full gear didn't we?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say yeah, I was wondering if that was the place he was talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Greg.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even a Bruce fan, but him playing purple rain would be basically an out of body experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no kidding man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was he played it right after Prince passed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were on tour and he played it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty awesome back in 2016, but it's not like when he plays regular.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when those first cords hit, I mean, that place came unglued.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I saw some music critic on Twitter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you guys saw this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a former take.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's playing in Minneapolis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like I tripped you to one of the all-time grades.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was maybe my favorite moment of the night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So...

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're approaching anniversary of his death here in a couple of weeks as well, and purple rain ironically is one of my son's favorite songs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's four and a half, he loves purple rain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, great taste, great taste.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Dylan was awesome too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a really good time seeing Bob Dylan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I've seen him twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was probably the better of the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is voice was pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Almost out of the times like he did in back in the 60s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this guy's at, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 84.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think it's 84 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So are closing in on 84 or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm getting to see a living legend as always.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Always pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and then we collision right there in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Justin was at I was at with some family members there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to Justin, you beat us to the punch though, Jesse, because you went to dynamite in St. Paul at Roy Wilkins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How was that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of fun got there a little early and I was there with two of my best friends in my lady.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to a story about her later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, yeah, it was a really cool show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were in the back, back row of the front sections.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We could stand up and see a lot of the things when

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that Roy Wilkins, their entranceway, I'm not a fan of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish it was elevated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's flat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it just makes it really hard to see if you're in the middle section.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's something I wish Roy Wilkins would change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Eric Napier, patron of our show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I met him after the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked for about 10 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had first throw balcony seats for the second ear in a row and loved him because you could see everything and it's just

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right directly below you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that might be the way to go next year if I don't go lower level when they come back or if they come back and Tony does his usual we We're glad to have you Minnesota as such a historic professional wrestling state and we always love coming here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would assume he's in a comeback and we got a quality show got to see Swerve and Kenny open which It didn't underwhelm to me, but it

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[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't have that just pop like the I think the first one did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the first one was a lot better than their second one And the second one is still really good, but I don't think it was even the best match on the show Yeah, and we got to see some Minnesota flavor with top flight My lady was actually most impressed all night long was Zeta Steel the 22 year old who is teaming with top flight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, call her called her Sparkle bottoms Nice, so

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then Tecla, she was also impressed with, so it's starting to rub off on me with what's going on with her in her situation and that her being woman's champion and just her big personality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were wondering what fruit was on her top and her bottom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like watermelons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was wearing like a pink, yeah, interesting outfit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Darby's Darby, the human pinball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we always fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did not see Andrade attack, or sorry, on the stage with Don Callis afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we missed that live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I mentioned seeing Roosh, rarely see him on TV these days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We went to Amsterdam Barr afterward, like 30 minutes after the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we ordered THG drinks, whatever, and Andrade and Roosh walk in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Andrody is wearing the exact same thing that he wore on on dynamite hat suit coat everything love it such a huge look Rouge is kind of dressed to the nines yet a nice little black suit shirt on and I was like I should I go up there and ask him just for a picture like what should I do in this scenario?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking down and wearing my Guerrero Mexico's T shirt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, I got to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way they're gonna turn me down

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just tapped him on the shoulder, I said, hey, would you mind taking a picture with me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, oh, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they didn't really want to know if they didn't speak English.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, I was even trying to speak a little bit of Spanish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to say English is broken.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Roosh can speak a little bit English too, but they would much prefer speak in Spanish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So my lady else, like can you take a picture of us and she just got up and gave her gave her phone to somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course she was in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Andrade was on the outside Roosh's on the outside and then she was next to Andrade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was next to Roosh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool photo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The jokes ran of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A couple of weeks ago I said, what if Andrade tries to steal my girl?

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That did not happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Surprisingly, I showed her a picture later of him in full gear as we would call it just with the cut to shreds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, dudes probably walking around 5% body fat these days, and she said, he's not my type.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fair enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then overall, yeah, it was such a fun time and then the people behind us in the booth bought both those guys shots after where they were receptive of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We also saw Brody King as we were walking out the door, which was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I would have had a couple of seconds just to say nice job, good show and thank you for the abolishized T-shirt, but I do not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then to much to my dismay as well as we were walking out, my friends told me later that Kenosuke Takeshita also walked in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Overall, it was an excellent night of professional wrestling and cool sightseeing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a bar that a lot of the wrestlers go?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, did you know that they'd probably be there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or was it just a total surprise?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Total surprise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we were walking over the venue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like three and a half four blocks away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we actually saw Trent Barretta walk into the hotel that we assumed that most of the talent was staying at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it was, might have been the continental, a couple blocks away from Roy Wilkins in Excel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, I mean, it was just a small, it's a somewhat known bar on 5th and Wobbysha, but it's not that big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do, they also have live music too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they had a live, that's it, a live band playing on that Wednesday night, just super small, like 25 people, just seemed to be a pretty cool vibe, so I'm wondering if Brody walked back there and listened to the music when everything was over, but yeah, good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at a map because I've, I've wandered to some bars in that area after some surprise surprise spring steam concerts over the years, curious if I'd been, I don't think I've been to that one though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I've, most of the bars I've been to are the other direction kind of down, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that fifth?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The street that has like the holiday end, and I think it's Machi Bar over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like a wood fire pizza place over there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The old Kelly-in, which we might have just mentioned, they have like the two most famous ones or tomorries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eagle Street has been renamed, I believe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right on the corner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are probably the two most popular places in St. Paul to go to after a show before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So your girlfriend came away and pressed, you know, not particularly a wrestling fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's super cool to hear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, are we all, I don't think you're in any disagreement for me, but I mean, A, W, by far the best money you can spend in pro wrestling right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a couple of years since I've been to a WWE show, but even like Justin, we went to collision, which is, you know, technically the B show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, it was a blast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got Moxley there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, and like, you know, you're spending pretty affordable tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even remember what I paid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I felt pretty comfortable buying, uh, I bought five tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went with my dad, all three of my kids, myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I paid for them all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was actually my dad's birthday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a birthday present for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's always been a wrestling fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how I got into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I didn't feel ripped off at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, those five tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: all together to buy a WWE ticket as close as I was, probably would have been more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and it's what I've gotten in a two hour wrestling show like four matches max, barely getting any time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, you know, I've said this before on the show so many times, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you like pop and circumstance, you like entrances and you just want to see the WWE brand more power to you, but you know, I've been to a lot of WWE shows over the years and they're just not giving me something I feel comfortable paying that much money for it right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And people don't believe me when I say this, I've said this on Twitter before and sometimes people respond, oh no, I don't believe that kids love WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All three of my kids prefer AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is just a fact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One is sitting in my office right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna put it on screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a fact?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a fact?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they love AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a blast just in your son was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, tell us about your experience.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I would say it started, you know, boy, you did two days before the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was starting to look like the only two announced matches were the women's tag in then Champa and Ace Austin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I just kind of resigned to the fact that

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, I guess, maybe jump on ace to us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ace Austin might be the best match we get on the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the rest will just be unannounced to filler.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then next thing you fucking know, we've got Moxley, we've got the first Fletcher and Davis tag team match in years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they announce Frickin'

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Kada and Kevin Knight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Kada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Incredible, main of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is to your point, this is a B show in Iowa to us to one of their smaller crowds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is what A.W.

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[SPEAKER_02]: gives you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had some of the best seats I've ever had at a wrestling show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they were about, I got three tickets, and it was about 50 bucks each.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and just awesome tickets.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I went with my son and I also took my buddy, who is not a wrestling fan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This was his first wrestling show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He'd never been before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we have all sorts of text threads with other buddies and after the show, he sent out 10 out of 10 would recommend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He had an absolute blast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He loved it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The more things change, the more they stay the same, you know, you think about a W and it's about work rate and in ring action.

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[SPEAKER_02]: His two biggest takeaways were the way the ladies just manhandled each other in the tag match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the dark mesh with Settonem Singh, he couldn't get over how big that dude was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, by the way, we saw Colt Cabana in the wrestling match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And most importantly, the highlight of my year, maybe the highlight of my decade, I got to hear live in a wrestling arena with wrestling fans.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to hear

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[SPEAKER_02]: stinks, good entrance music.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fucking loud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, it was so awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got to see Steve Gordon, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was so cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay there with us on Wednesday, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably pretty crazy for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When that theme started, I immediately looked across the arena just in the sea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you nailed it all the great wrestling gotten collision and you said it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we were getting a little worried about the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like you said, people might think, you know, this city in Iowa with a couple hundred thousand people that I can send much, but man, they went all out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they, look, they increased their intent and see, I want to say something about the attendance here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think the last time that collision there was in October of 2024 in Cedar Rapids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it did like 1,600 in change for that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was pretty disappointed in that crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But also, if I remember right, it overlaps with the Iowa Hawkeye's football game, which Iowa City is like a 20 to 25 minute drive away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that I think kind of hurt sales or anyone that might have thought about going at the last second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This one, the advance was over 2,000 tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were from 1600 to about 2,200 tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they increased that percentage increase is very large from their last visit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Iowa Hawkeyes were playing an elite eight basketball game against Illinois.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that definitely hurt ticket sales.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, people that would have thought to go at the very end, they could not have another one or 200 people in there to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the first time Iowa has been in the elite eight since 1987.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No sports fans that that's gonna hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's just some bad luck But they already had over 2,000 tickets out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm as big as a wrestling fan as anybody obviously doing this show And I'm not a huge hot guy's fan, you know, I prefer northern Iowa where I I'm gonna lump from

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I had to get in the score on my phone and I kept checking it because just a huge moment for the state, you know, so that's going to hurt your sales and yet they put 2,200 in there and I mean look good on TV they had the whole lower bowl was filled and then they started to sell a little bit in the upper deck in the last week or so before the show and they had some people in the upper deck straight behind us like a cross from the hard cam not a lot but a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I think they should keep running it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're improving every time out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's only mid twice, but 1,62200 is a big advance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to think of those dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They would have done better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's the A-show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I thought it was a resounding success and we're seeing this with a W. They're selling more tickets pretty much every market out now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're slowly increasing their market share for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing I noticed, because we both went to that other Cedar Rapids collision.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we both went to the dynamite in Des Moines.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I felt like even going back to the times I've gone to WWE shows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been to a couple at Wells Fargo a SmackDown

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought this was the best Iowa wrestling crowd I've ever been amongst like they were very lively, very vocal because that's I always get a little embarrassed when we go to the shows and if I'm going to rewatch it TV it's just going to be everybody fucking sitting on their hands but I did not feel like that was the case at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But one downfall of the weekend we my kid, my buddy, had a very untimely snack and beer

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We, we went to go get use the restroom, uh, get popcorn and another beer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right before Moxley made his way out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he literally walked right in front of where we were sitting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, my top rope nation white hoodie would have been taking up about half the screen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we would have been right there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, just.

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[SPEAKER_02]: brutal, you know, my kid was devastated when I showed him, but other than that, just an absolutely terrific time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like John Moxley loves T-R-N.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's making the notes as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am not kidding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been in my face like three feet from me at all out 22.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan, I think he's been near you a couple of times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dynamite last year in 2025 he walked like right along my section.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was probably within like two arms lengths of me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Justin, you were that close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am frantically trying to pull the screen shot that Justin was sent by my phone to get out of my computer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can show you guys on the video stream exactly what Justin is talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because yeah, you guys laughed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw you leave.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Moxley comes out immediately and he walks right over to where you guys are sitting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's for real, bum me out, because not only for one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because I mean, yeah, my kid could have been like feet away from John Moxley, you know, just to get our logo front and center on a national TV show, but also the other thing is like, I, you know, I rewatched it and he walks by, and there's just a bunch of empty seats there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel bad just for like, eight W that, you know, oh, there it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We, we were sitting right behind that guy in that kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all full too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, all those people went at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Before Foxley's entrance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The two other guys that were sitting next to us in the aisle by the stairs there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They left for the restaurants, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Brutal brutal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I had a missed time thing because I then I took my two of my kids to go get refreshments and that was when they did the segment where the triangle, Tecla, Julia, Skyblood, they were all standing on the steps and that was right next to where we were sitting maybe like two or three rows up from us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our friend Tim Jensen, you can see clear as day on the broadcast that he was Tim was sitting straight behind us, like in the row right behind us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have had a kind of like turn to see him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd do try to get my TRA and sign on TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you look for it, you'll see it kind of the top of the screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were like three rows off the ground straight on from the hard cam.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got the sign up there a few ties, but it was kind of dark in the arena, so it was kind of hard to make out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was hard to see, but I did see the logo a couple of times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you guys had the better card in ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you had O'Cotta Night was easily the best match I think of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: O'Cotta had the crowd going so much when he looked him off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought the same thing as Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Iowa crowds are definitely known for being way more reserved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was in general, I kind of had their reputation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless they're angry about a non-call at a sporting event,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We used to always joke at Panthers games and college that like that place was like a church until there was a bad call then oh my god It got so loud, but you know other than that I will crowds rose very reserved, but no that was I agreed Maybe the best crowd I've been at for a wrestling show I mean they're very into it'll caught at him going that main event was spectacular man Kevin night really showed out Yes, Gary moment of Kyle Fletcher you could tell it was legitimate right away

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doc Samps is over there working on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they did really film him for TV or he pushed the camera away at one point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Eventually he gets back in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of hobbled a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't really heard an update on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard that he was in a walking boot after the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope he's all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, because he's one of the, probably my favorite up and coming star right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was a scary moment, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was kind of stunned by how red hot the crowd was for Champa.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were super into that match, which was another excellent match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would just say in general if you listen to the show and you don't like AEW and your more of a WWE person maybe you've turned it off already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're still listening, give it a go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, these shows are so fun and they have been pretty much every AEW show I've been to since the beginning, but I mean, they're still affordable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a big thing to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I wanted to take my three kids and my dad to a WWE show, that would have cost me way over $1,000.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just not willing to pay that right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially when there's a challenger brand putting on better wrestling right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know they're not the biggest company and they're not as hot as WWE's been, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But just pound for pound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You go to one of these shows and it is a heck of a good time and well worth the money spent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would recommend anybody who's a wrestling fan go to at least one a WWE show when they're near you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: we're not getting paid to say this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a blast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're just wrestling fans and we got to go to a wrestling show that was all just two straight hours of basically match after match with a little bit of promos in between and you know that was my other big takeaway from and why I think I feel so reinvigorated from it's just like

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[SPEAKER_02]: going back to worrying about the card and then having just all these fucking banger matches and stars on the card.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fucking John Moxley and Cedar Rapids Iowa, what the fuck is going on?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I was thankful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just so freaking thankful to be able to have AW because I probably wouldn't be watching wrestling otherwise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: WWE used to run Cedar Rap is how shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Almost every single year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't some tapings for like challenge I think back in the day at that venue of Justin I believe was there around 1990 or so, 91.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But WWE, WWE, WWE and that venue, they have not done a TV in many years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: WWE used to run Nitro and Thunder and of course that sold out paper view was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I kept thinking, you know, with the 2,200 people there,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kept thinking, man, if there's people who are in this market who sat at home and didn't come out to the show and they're wrestling fans, that's a huge bummer man, because WWE ain't running that venue again any time soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not really running how shows anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to run cedar app as I want anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be annoying and that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, if you want to see WWE, you're going to be waiting or you're going to be driving and you should have came out to this show and supported the company that's actually going to run your market.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so hopefully, they return again a little bit more attendance even next time, but you know, moving in the right direction, so I think they will return for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you mentioned affordability, like I said, we were lower bull and it was, I think just under 60 a ticket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's great value in this day and age right now with what tickets cost, you know, talking about spring seeing at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All those times I've seen them, I mean, most of those were when he was charging 90, 90 to $100.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was top price for his tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I paid a lot more than that, sitting the upper deck this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His ticket prices are way more expensive now than they used to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty much across the board.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I, W, I mean, AWS pretty much stayed pretty steady since the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had one little blip where stuff got really pricey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we bashed them on the show for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We criticized them for two expensive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they came to own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't because of us, look, I'm not saying we're that big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we talked about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes people say that we're too positive on a, W, we're not criticizing them enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have criticized them many times when they deserve criticism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was one of those moments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and they brought the prices down, man, and it's helped out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think some of the upper deck tickets could be a little cheaper for, to be honest, just to get people on the building.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got something we can criticize him for here in a few moments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there is that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although, I don't know if I have that paper, probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Before we do, though, let's get some of the housekeeping items other way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Number one, boys, I didn't even ask you if you had a drink tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have been doing a lot of morning shows lately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we haven't been doing the what's in the glass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Sean Skeleton segment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sean, if you're out there, hello.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you got, Justin?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another G&T in the top broke nation template.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hold on, I got to make that full screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at that beautiful glass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get that at toprovenation.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So good looking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're just, you're way more good looking than the glass though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Athletic, going with my N.A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My Hazy, my last one, so I got to do something about that here soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got the Yingling Traditional Logger, which is now available in cans and I will for the first time ever, shout out to the Jenkins and Brothers, this breweries not too far from them out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the beer that they had at the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I missed Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, they're eating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're eating there, I'd even see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's always nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you try and keep beer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just to throw in quick, we've criticized it before, but just so we can try and stay fair and balanced here and criticize A.W.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Merch stand is just fucking grossious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is so bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, what was disappointing about that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had improved their merch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like, and I'm wondering, I don't really know what's going out their merch right now, because I don't know if you guys have noticed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you go to shop AEW.com, it's totally different now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't even look like pro wrestling T's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have their own tags on the shirt now and everything, but the old pro wrestling T's store is still up, but you have to get to it through pro wrestlingT's.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if they're just rebranding the website, if they're separating pro wrestling T's, I have no idea what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the merch stand was more stripped down this time in the last time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had more last time that collision there year and a half ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if they are separating from proists, wrestling T's if it's because there's not as much product right now as the FZ get the new line underway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you guys have seen this or not, but the website is totally different now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been on there in quite a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: different relationship maybe because I know that match-axons wife is no longer running the she's no longer the president of merch or whatever she was I know she was a big influence the first handful of years when I felt the merch was pretty quality I was buying a lot more than than I am now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it doesn't have like even at the bottom, it doesn't say one hour teas or pro wrestling teas or anything like that anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, you know, I have no idea what's going out at their merch and I could be totally wrong, but if you go to the website, you'll see what I'm talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's totally different now than it used to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't know if that played into it, but yeah, I was very, very disappointed with the merch too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't buy anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was ready to buy something, last time they had, like a Hawkeye's color, it black and gold, AW logo shirt, I ended up buying it, like a sucker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, it was kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it maybe that was like event specific or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had nothing like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, yeah, hardly anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, I don't know what dynamite was like, Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: About the same, I contemplated the MJF's better than you, and you know it t-shirt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was a swirl when I saw a couple of weeks ago that I almost sent to you guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, this might be the best piece of swirl of merch I've seen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, definitely could continue to do better there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, where you can get some good merch though, is topropnation.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can get that rocks glass just in the head, support the pod.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a new hat design up that I put up recently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a trucker style cap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Check that out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Topropnation.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a good way to support the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, of course, patreon.com slash top rope nation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're watching us on your TVs right now, I'll go ahead and put the QR code up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, Justin, it'd be behind it there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's the best way to support us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: $5 a month gets you all of the benefits of all the bonus shows like T.R.N.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unplugged Jesse's Weekly Show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: T-R-N-Extra, T-R-N classics, merch giveaways, all kinds of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Number one way to support us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's different tiers, but it access to the bonus shows starts to just five dollars a month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we really appreciate it if you like our show, if you would give us a little donation over there to keep this thing rolling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got T-R-N classics coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is the final vote right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is between WrestleMania 10.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and wrestle kingdom nine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And interestingly enough, wrestle kingdom nine was a show Justin and I did a live blog on and covered back when they originally aired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even remember what year that was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 24, 18, 15, 15.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that I will post because I still have it saved on a Google Doc over a decade later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll post that for a Patron's, regardless if that show wins or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that show wins, we're gonna have to get a, yeah, Jesse read it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, if that show wins, we'll definitely bring on a new Japan expert, like a Jeremy fine stone or a Stephen Conway, maybe to help us out, uh, because, you know, New Japan is not our number one interest or forte, Jesse, a little bit more than Justin and myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but the other show, WrestleMania 10, we've talked about that show kind of here and there over the years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've not given the full show a proper review, uh, but I do have a feeling there's an old

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[SPEAKER_01]: wins because he's been texting me that he needs to get on a classic soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you missed this person, who we referenced earlier in the show, I'm not going to put my finger on the scale too much, but let me just say, I'm pretty sure he would do that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've ran a buy him, but you know, he has been texting me about coming on the show again soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when March madness is over here soon, I think you'll have a little extra time, so maybe we could make that happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think of two shots out, one of you Ryan first and foremost, and then one to my co-host Steven Conway for the last unplugged we did, reviewing Mitsuharu Misawa and Kenta Kobashi from Noah and March 1 of 2003.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan was very gracious enough to put that on the main feed for you guys to listen to because Steven was an outstanding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: co-host on that evening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's probably the most fun I've had doing a deep dive on a match in quite a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just it's almost made me want to go back and start watching all Japan from like 1993 moving forward just to really see a close and personal like what that was like in the flesh because that match was incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I enjoyed that pot so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I text you guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is going on the main feed for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a good people a taste of what you're doing every single week on the Patreon side and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I've never done a show with Steven and I don't know if he's listening right now, but I got to say that guys, such a good podcast or so well thought out, did such a great job explaining, you know, New Japan at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He threw out was that Bob Barnett, the old tape trading site, I think, and I was like, dude, I'm pretty sure I bought some tapes from him back then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a variety here that name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So connecting, you know, based on that old tape trading website or tape purchasing website, I really enjoyed that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, no, Steve was a great co-host.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You always do a great job, Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I hope the people who got a chance to listen to that on our main feed, enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just not the reason to think about joining the Patriarchs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing stuff like that all the time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I liked him talking about all the wrestle manias.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been to, because I think it started with, he was at WrestleMania 13.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He saw Brett Hart versus Steve Austin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he started going through some of the other ones he's seen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he gets to, uh, he's like, and then I was at WrestleMania eight, which you know, I'm not a great show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, and I mean, this most, in the most endearing way possible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Motherfucker, you saw two of Brett Hart's greatest fucking matches of all time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to hear that from you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, jealous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, and I was so jealous when he said that, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you get to see Savage Flair and Brett Hart, Roddy Piper, WrestleMania 8.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a huge dynamite kid fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he got to see the British Bulldogs way back when it WrestleMania 2.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he did say on the show, I don't know if you caught this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brett Hart is one of his two favorite wrestlers of all time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did catch that, you know, and he was talking about, I think he was in college around that time period of the mid 90s where the business was down, but there were still things to like and getting into Japan and tape training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything else AEW before we get some thoughts on WrestleMania?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had to talk about that return yet, I guess, the half of the top dynamite this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We could talk about that and then the card bill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually just stepped away for a couple seconds to turn on the last bit of collision because I forgot it was on tonight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually going old school in how it used to be when Kyle was on the show and I, you know, I'd let those two talk and I would just watch wrestling on my TV.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got collision going on my TV tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you watch all the old videos, just as always looking off to the side, sitting there watching wrestling while Kyle and I just yapped back and forth and bring him in occasionally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's so funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like when you were living with your mother-in-law for a while, between houses and you always sit on that couch, just kind of.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, it looks like it's been a really good collision.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're taking it seriously.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, like, it's a B-show, but I like, you know, WWE will also say, they'll always say things like, you know, we don't treat this like it's a B-show or, you know, it's not important, but like, I legit think Tony Con does not look at collision as a B-show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's just it's own entity and, uh, yeah, it looks like it's a pretty fire show.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin night even pulled out as great Rob Van Dam in personation after he hit his twisting frog splash selling as ribs after the impact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that tremendously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the more I watch Kevin night, the more I like that guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's all incredible and I'm glad they didn't do the rumored heel turn with him because I just don't see that work and right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's just one of those guys that's really easy to like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, he should be face all the way I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just real quick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He is really good at the, uh, uh, I was so where I'm looking for the.

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[SPEAKER_02]: subtleties of emotion where there there there there does look like to be a little bit of a heel in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just it hasn't bubbled to the top yet because he gets he was very emotional and upset after his loss to a kind of rightfully, I mean, oh, caught a cheated twin, but there's there's some heelishness there and I do hope they let that simmer for a while and just kind of let him turn heel naturally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and also I think that that would dull the impact of a heel turn if they do it too early because the crowd is naturally like starting to warm to them and it continues to get more popular and more popular.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got to let him kind of reach that peak of being a baby face and then turn them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then the people will be more angry at him, you know, so I just don't think the timing works right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But speaking of timing,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was headed back to the WWE, but in fact, Mr. Chris Jericho has returned to AEW and he walks out right at the beginning in Winnipeg, you know, is native hometown and got a good reaction comes out to Judas, crowd cheering, singing along to Judas and he's home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys, what do we make of Chris Jericho's return, Justin, happy about it in different

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I was really, really hoping he would go to WWE, he just feels very out of place in modern AW.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it really felt like after he disappeared, uh, AW kind of really started building momentum.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, how much of that is actually on him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but I didn't hate as much as I thought I would.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like the most important thing is that he understands his place in the roster that he just he can't be can't be getting like 15 20 minutes on every dynamite for a promo or a match like he has to take a step back, but I mean, honestly, I think this is something we all should have seen and but

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked a lot of shit about Chris Jericho.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The last, you know, a few handful of years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think any of us have been the biggest fans of his for a while now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Both may be professionally and personally, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a smart guy, he's not stupid, especially when it comes to pro wrestling, and there's no way he didn't see the way things were going in WWE, both the way they were treating guys who were on their way out, the goldberg retirement, the John Cena retirement, the fact that they are not quite as hot as they once were.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's going to have a lot more creative freedom in leverage in A.W.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's currently, I think, the hotter product.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he is important to A.W.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was their first world champion in frankly, just like an optics alone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a good look for A.W.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that that's where he chose to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe he wasn't getting the offer from W.W. that he would have wanted.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I honestly think that he probably wanted to stay with A.W.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's definitely a wait and see for me like it's not a bad thing for A, W, to have more star power to be able to say, hey, he came back to us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't wanna go over there, you know, that's a good thing, but it's just gonna be all about how they use them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right, so yeah, it's wait and see for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You took most of my bullet points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the one thing that I would have felt would have been a learning to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've joked about it so many times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is the way the political landscape of WWE is going?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay, this is like Jericho's going to be married to this, especially his wife.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like send me over to stay African etiquette again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to finish my career there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But all your bullet points with the writing on the wall and how retirements have been treated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a different AEW than when he left about a year and a half ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There has been quite a few guys that have been elevated ever since, and that's even without him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you look at one of his last matches, was against Bandito.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look what happened to Bandito after he left the Chris Jericho food.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He took off and he's in the higher end of the midcard, and he's still getting featured pretty prominently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel on a weekly or biweekly basis, so it's a matter of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: finding that happy sweet spot between satisfying his own needs and then also playing nice and also just being cognizant of the landscape of A, W, where it's headed and know that his role is continuing to be either elevating young guys or giving them a rub at some point in time because he was doing that with Eddie Kingston and Ricky Starks and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Adam Cole, like early, like in 2023, parts of 2024.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was putting guys over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to keep doing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did that with Bandito 2?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think it's just a matter of the balance and I think he's going to be very, very helpful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he always has been, I feel backstage and keeping things, well, it doesn't have to worry about I really think anybody getting ruffling any feathers back

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he doesn't have to worry about being Mr. Policeman anymore because I know he's had quite a bit of say backstage to you when the punk stuff was happening in the roofs of his blacks, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am curious if

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the reasons he didn't want to go to WWE is because they probably looked at it like it was going to be a one last run kind of retirement tour just like with Sina.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I wouldn't be surprised to freeze around for a few more years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he just doesn't strike me as the guy who's just coming back to retire.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But again, it's just as long as he's okay being a midcard attraction, you know, someone that you could put on the marquee every once in a while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I hope to be okay with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably be eating these words in six months, but uh, we will see There's one other point that I'm gonna wait to make because I want Ryan's take and I want to see if he's gonna catch on to what I might say

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you guys, you guys hit a lot of what I wanted to say here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think one of the biggest problems we had with Jericho was the overexposure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, at the end of his recent run, that he needed to go away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We said so many times on the show, go on tour with Fasi or something, just get away because, you know, he just been overexposed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jericho's a guy who will always be a key part of the history of AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was the first world champion, he was the perfect guy to be world champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We said it at the time, go in the archives,

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[SPEAKER_01]: all that's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, I think that like Justin said, as long as he recognizes his place and that he's not going to be like super high up on the card and have 15 to 20 minutes every week, like you said,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And right now, I'm just a wait and see approach, but I didn't have as big of a problem with it as I thought I might.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think the optics of it are good for AEW because so many people, at least online community, were expecting him to go back to WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now it appears like he chose AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's from an optics point of view, that's definitely a win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also you guys, maybe he saw that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stephanie McMahon was going in the hall of fame this year and he didn't want to end up having to walk a dog at the ceremony So we decided I'm not gonna get that whole of fame shine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going back right now, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not walking that dog again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So tell you what I just wrote wrote what he looked freaking fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He looked to be like in some of the best shape.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's been his entire run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the point I was going to make is what is his relationship with Paul Levec?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even think of that until we were talking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's because, look, he's ever when he left Vince was still in charge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We think back to some of Hunter's comments when he was on top, mentioning that during the Daniel Bryan run in WrestleMania 30, how guys like Jericho, RVD, Booker T, they were fine, they were good enough, but they weren't good enough to lead a company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you have to wonder if that hits the ego of Chris Jericho.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you also have to wonder just that relationship between the two because I honestly don't think it really was that good when you was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember some talk around that time that Hunter was in a fan of another guy with long blonde hair being close to the top of the cart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Something like that bothered him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm that's the true story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean he's Chris is going to have a lot more pull with Tony

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean, I, again, I wasn't as negative on it as maybe, you know, a few months ago, the thought of him coming back, I would have been or maybe even said on the show, yeah, as long as he's used in spurts, I think it can be fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is regardless of the issues we've had with him and most of those issues are in his personal life, not the wrestling side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, he is a legend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's in all time, legend at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has to be considered that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, yeah, we'll see, we'll see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But right now, I'm not

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how would you use them and who would you pair them with right away?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of a It's a million dollar question because a lot of a people right now that I'm thinking of her tied up and Fused already to begin with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't have a good answer for that right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because everybody I'd want him to face, I'd want him to lose against him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really want him to lose right when he gets back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, I want to transition a little to WWE before we get off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It goes just before we get out the air tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has been a long week and I do need to get some sleep at some point, but, um, this build the WrestleMania 42, you've been talking about it, Jesse, on your show, I've been talking on the BR short videos I've been doing on the Bleacher Port app.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've said on the show, CM Punk and Roman Reigns feels like a WrestleMania main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of all the matches on their card, that is the one that most feels like a WrestleMania event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've only had one singles match ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a raw and January of 2014, right, before Punk left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't even a very good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, so they really have not, they were in the triple threat last year, obviously, but a singles match has not happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Punk is tied to the beginning of Reigns' career in WWE with the shield, you know, and all of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the build to this, and you gotta put this on Hunter, have to, just, I mean, we can keep piling on, but man, this build has been absolute dog shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the idea that you got Roman Reigns, going on Jimmy Fallon, and joking that

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how we're selling matches these days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's so old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Both these guys are in their 40s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's 47 versus 40.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you said on your show, Jesse, I've said it too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if that's the selling point, why do I want to see that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're going to beat the crap out of this old guy who you think has passed his prime.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the selling point for the WrestleMania main event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't understand that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For two guys who have both been for the last year,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That should not be the angle you're going with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get that at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why that's the angle that they're using to sell this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not at all what I would have done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have just, I would have tied away more into the origins of the shield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Had to be like a respect thing, and build up the heat that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about just joking about punks age, how that really works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not working for me at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Addy old, uh, your soul, you're probably not awake watching me right now in Fallon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, yeah, that's going to sell a lot of tickets and Jimmy Fallon, dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was so confused.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're the during that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never been a huge Jimmy Fallon fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's fine as an actor, like as a sketch comedy guy, as a TV host, a dude is so lame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Compared to the other guys that are great, like Kimmel, I mean, Fallon is awful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just like giggling like a little school girl off to the side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a terrible interviewer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even think it's the worst of the build so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly, that award goes to Jade Cardinal in real Ripley.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's real bad too, real real bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the card itself, what are they at?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I saw they are planning for 14 matches across both nights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they got 12, 12 announced right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, this is another point is that the rumored match of a six man with eye show speed wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a YouTube streamer, I guess, Twitch streamer, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Using the Royal Rumble, he was in the crowd a couple of years ago at WrestleMania 2.

56:22.844 --> 56:28.573
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it has to be, but like WrestleMania, I know, really.

56:28.753 --> 56:32.659
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we got Jelly Roll Wrestling on SmackDown last week.

56:32.680 --> 56:38.889
[SPEAKER_01]: The video I made on Bleach Report today was like is WWE using too many celebrities of late.

56:38.989 --> 56:42.215
[SPEAKER_01]: And this video has got the biggest reaction of any video I've made in the app lately.

56:42.275 --> 56:44.839
[SPEAKER_01]: And usually there's a lot more WWE fans on that app.

56:45.400 --> 56:46.962
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's negative on it.

56:46.942 --> 56:53.948
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody wants to watch jelly roll wrestle and it's really weird because it feels like WWE is kind of come full circle.

56:54.589 --> 57:02.376
[SPEAKER_01]: Like remember the early days of WrestleMania, they'd always have all the mainstream celebrities on their guest timekeepers, Bob Eucre doing play by play, all of that, right?

57:02.936 --> 57:05.178
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they got away from that for a while.

57:05.238 --> 57:16.088
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you know, I remember during the attitude era, Vince McMahon was asked about that and he said something to the effect of we don't need the celebrities anymore because superstars are the celebrities now.

57:16.068 --> 57:16.569
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of thing.

57:16.809 --> 57:28.329
[SPEAKER_01]: They would still have them occasionally obviously like Pete Rose and then Mike Tyson's the big one, but it wasn't as much of a focal point in WrestleMania as it had been, but now in recent years they've obviously been going back to it.

57:28.810 --> 57:32.035
[SPEAKER_01]: Bad bunny wrestling, Logan Paul, you know, Logan Paul was

57:32.015 --> 57:33.197
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of a mainstream star.

57:33.237 --> 57:35.020
[SPEAKER_01]: They brought it and started to teach to wrestle.

57:35.881 --> 57:40.929
[SPEAKER_01]: Rob Grunkowski, now they're teeming their teason stuff with Tom Brady and Logan Paul.

57:40.969 --> 57:43.012
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they really, jelly roll.

57:43.052 --> 57:46.458
[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned they're really, really going in on the celebrity stuff.

57:46.858 --> 57:49.823
[SPEAKER_01]: And this does absolutely nothing for me.

57:49.883 --> 57:54.871
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm probably not the target audience, but I, it's just, what do you guys think about that?

57:54.891 --> 57:56.994
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, do we think?

57:57.355 --> 57:57.415
[UNKNOWN]: I'm

57:58.508 --> 58:01.494
[SPEAKER_02]: What audience are they actually bringing to professional wrestling?

58:02.035 --> 58:03.839
[SPEAKER_02]: Like who's tuning in?

58:03.859 --> 58:07.948
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, speed guy is going to be on their jelly rolls fucking wrestling.

58:07.968 --> 58:09.612
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to watch this pro wrestling.

58:09.652 --> 58:13.159
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean like whoever's a fan of his music.

58:13.274 --> 58:31.300
[SPEAKER_02]: If they're not already a professional wrestling fan, I guarantee they don't give a shit about jelly roll fucking wrestling on SmackDown, you know, and of all these celebrities that have been on, these big shows, how many have actually moved the needle, like it's probably Tyson, maybe Mr. T, maybe Cindy Loppard.

58:31.600 --> 58:32.702
[SPEAKER_02]: And then that's probably about it.

58:33.162 --> 58:40.513
[SPEAKER_02]: And you were talking about like the special timekeepers and hosts, like people aren't buying tickets.

58:40.679 --> 58:45.266
[SPEAKER_02]: for these fringe celebrities playing these fringe parts on a professional wrestling show.

58:45.287 --> 58:52.398
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, you know, they got away with it or they got away from it, you know, in the 90s for one, cause they didn't need it.

58:53.099 --> 58:57.426
[SPEAKER_02]: And two, because what are you getting for what you're spending on bringing them in?

58:58.007 --> 59:00.932
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I highly doubt their break and even.

59:02.684 --> 59:09.758
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, these guys are these YouTubers are making millions of dollars, but yeah, the biggest question is, is there audience coming with them?

59:09.878 --> 59:11.041
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you make a comment?

59:11.121 --> 59:16.091
[SPEAKER_00]: I think six months ago, maybe a year and said, I don't think we're far away from a Logan Paul versus Mr.

59:16.191 --> 59:18.195
[SPEAKER_00]: Beast main event or Russell Manio.

59:18.968 --> 59:31.029
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he was joking or being serious, but they're just kind of the way of the land and the writing on the wall, that is not far fetched maybe in like five years, especially with that roster right now.

59:32.211 --> 59:39.323
[SPEAKER_00]: You're slowly starting to see a couple of young guys get in there, but nope, they love those 40 plusers still on top.

59:39.488 --> 59:44.682
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what does that say about your roster building, you know, that you're, you've got spots for these guys on the card.

59:44.943 --> 59:52.363
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we went to a two night wrestle mania because they wanted to get everyone on the show yet we still got a spot for eye show speed in a six man.

59:52.443 --> 59:52.924
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

59:54.440 --> 59:56.463
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know who this is bringing in any.

59:56.483 --> 59:58.486
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just at, you know, to your point.

59:58.706 --> 01:00:02.591
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there's people out there listening, they're going to say, well, what about a W, they use the Costco guys?

01:00:03.232 --> 01:00:05.335
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, zero alches.

01:00:05.415 --> 01:00:08.159
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's not the same thing.

01:00:08.380 --> 01:00:13.847
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not, it's not really comparable to, you know, what W, W's doing consistently.

01:00:13.867 --> 01:00:15.269
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just out of the blue.

01:00:15.289 --> 01:00:19.435
[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing this all the time trying to get that mainstream media rub and

01:00:19.702 --> 01:00:29.980
[SPEAKER_01]: I think when celebrities think of doing stuff like this, obviously when people hear WWE to a lot of people, that's the only professional wrestling, so they're automatically going to get those people.

01:00:30.601 --> 01:00:42.942
[SPEAKER_01]: So you would hope over the long term that AW becomes a recognizable second-brand too, because it's still become where when you hear pro wrestling, it's WWE is all the majority of people.

01:00:42.922 --> 01:00:43.504
[SPEAKER_01]: Think about.

01:00:43.806 --> 01:00:50.653
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, if these agents are pitching the stars to like go to a wrestling show, it's always going to be WWE because probably that's all they know of.

01:00:50.937 --> 01:00:56.784
[SPEAKER_01]: But man, if only they knew there was another wrestling show up there, that there's a much better viewing experience right now.

01:00:56.804 --> 01:00:59.988
[SPEAKER_01]: Objectively speaking, just a much better product right now.

01:01:00.629 --> 01:01:11.682
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I won't call it the hotter product because when people hear that, they think like money making probably, but as far as well, we're concerned as wrestling fans are just wanting to enjoy the show.

01:01:11.763 --> 01:01:15.087
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, we don't go on Twitter and brag about how much a company is making.

01:01:15.147 --> 01:01:17.029
[SPEAKER_01]: We go on Twitter to brag about.

01:01:17.009 --> 01:01:23.279
[SPEAKER_01]: What we like watching, and if you like watching wrestling, I don't know how you could prefer that company right now.

01:01:23.580 --> 01:01:25.443
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not a good wrestling show.

01:01:26.224 --> 01:01:33.215
[SPEAKER_01]: There's been times when it has been in recent years like when they got how to get and Jesse and I were on here saying, you know what, we actually really like watching WWE right now.

01:01:33.776 --> 01:01:34.157
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not.

01:01:34.518 --> 01:01:37.162
[SPEAKER_01]: When I watch it, it's not an enjoyable experience.

01:01:37.182 --> 01:01:38.384
[SPEAKER_01]: It is slow.

01:01:38.424 --> 01:01:40.367
[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of ads.

01:01:41.647 --> 01:01:44.297
[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of cozying up to elements of society.

01:01:44.337 --> 01:01:47.368
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a big fan of, and it's just not a front experience.

01:01:47.388 --> 01:01:47.910
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not.

01:01:48.693 --> 01:01:49.817
[SPEAKER_01]: Just right.

01:01:51.063 --> 01:01:54.146
[SPEAKER_02]: explain it to Justin corner here talking WWE.

01:01:55.327 --> 01:02:02.995
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw a match announced that doesn't make sense to me just from what little I knew of what was going on in WWE.

01:02:03.636 --> 01:02:04.817
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't mind the match.

01:02:05.218 --> 01:02:06.119
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be good.

01:02:06.299 --> 01:02:08.581
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't understand how they got there.

01:02:08.621 --> 01:02:14.047
[SPEAKER_02]: The Seth Rollins and Gunther, I thought his problem was with Paul Hayman and his group.

01:02:14.727 --> 01:02:17.290
[SPEAKER_02]: But now of

01:02:18.350 --> 01:02:20.312
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's been officially announced.

01:02:20.332 --> 01:02:22.495
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe was that Monday night?

01:02:23.596 --> 01:02:23.817
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:02:24.578 --> 01:02:25.459
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah.

01:02:25.479 --> 01:02:27.020
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was officially announced.

01:02:27.040 --> 01:02:27.902
[SPEAKER_02]: How did we get there?

01:02:27.922 --> 01:02:30.965
[SPEAKER_02]: Is Gunther part of division or whatever the fuck that group's called?

01:02:32.707 --> 01:02:35.971
[SPEAKER_01]: He just launched this attack on Rowland's kind of out of nowhere.

01:02:36.031 --> 01:02:39.075
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't watched Monday nights, raw, yet to be honest with you.

01:02:39.140 --> 01:02:40.964
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't really have an explanation.

01:02:40.984 --> 01:02:46.097
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't have, they didn't even have Gunther a spot on the card, which is remarkable.

01:02:46.297 --> 01:02:51.991
[SPEAKER_01]: Considering they had a retired John Cena, it tells you a lot about a little bit long-term storytelling right now.

01:02:52.412 --> 01:02:54.938
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Newsroom, it is going to be Ray Mysterio.

01:02:54.918 --> 01:02:57.061
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the right now.

01:02:57.342 --> 01:02:58.604
[SPEAKER_00]: Raise injured.

01:02:58.624 --> 01:02:59.125
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.

01:02:59.485 --> 01:03:00.647
[SPEAKER_00]: Braun breakers injured.

01:03:01.188 --> 01:03:03.832
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was Seth Rollins is pulling in a WrestleMania.

01:03:03.912 --> 01:03:09.562
[SPEAKER_00]: So you guys without WrestleMania opponents, there is no story at all.

01:03:10.483 --> 01:03:11.825
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I guess I just made the attack.

01:03:11.845 --> 01:03:16.673
[SPEAKER_02]: To keep some sort of consistency, why wouldn't you just pivot to Rollins and Logan Paul?

01:03:17.868 --> 01:03:23.355
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they pivoted to Logan Paul and Austin Theory as your new WWE raw tag team champions.

01:03:25.097 --> 01:03:26.459
[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you do with you so is now?

01:03:28.301 --> 01:03:32.046
[SPEAKER_00]: You're one of your most popular acts where we're all going like this.

01:03:32.366 --> 01:03:35.690
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:03:35.710 --> 01:03:40.156
[SPEAKER_00]: Jay you so opened up WrestleMania 41 last year and won the World Heavyweight Championship.

01:03:40.236 --> 01:03:41.277
[SPEAKER_00]: Where is he at right now?

01:03:45.053 --> 01:03:51.025
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the, you know, those guys that you mentioned, I mean, that's, that's the story where they're going to supposedly work.

01:03:51.165 --> 01:03:56.435
[SPEAKER_01]: I show speed in with him teaming with Logan Paul and Austin theory and LA night in the Usos.

01:03:57.157 --> 01:04:00.704
[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't been officially announced, but that's the one they're supposedly thinking about.

01:04:00.744 --> 01:04:05.914
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, he went from winning the world title to wrestling against a streamer.

01:04:08.189 --> 01:04:08.910
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

01:04:08.930 --> 01:04:16.261
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to dig into some more lafability quick that five-man intercontinental championship match at Russell Mania.

01:04:16.421 --> 01:04:17.944
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a ladder match by the way.

01:04:18.785 --> 01:04:29.701
[SPEAKER_00]: The four participants were determined by matches on Manevent that were taped anywhere from two weeks ago to a year and a half ago.

01:04:33.567 --> 01:04:35.530
[SPEAKER_00]: And a half ago.

01:04:36.877 --> 01:04:38.720
[SPEAKER_00]: Rusev defeated Otis in a match.

01:04:38.901 --> 01:04:40.243
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it wasn't Rusev defeated Otis.

01:04:40.303 --> 01:04:41.365
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember who it was.

01:04:42.066 --> 01:04:47.596
[SPEAKER_00]: It might have been JD McDonough defeating somebody in a match and they said that that was the qualifier and he made it.

01:04:47.616 --> 01:04:51.643
[SPEAKER_00]: And this was from a main event episode from 2025 and like the early portion of it.

01:04:54.027 --> 01:04:55.610
[SPEAKER_02]: Was it on TV back then?

01:04:56.171 --> 01:04:58.395
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're just, no, it's saying.

01:04:58.932 --> 01:05:07.323
[SPEAKER_00]: No, the other four matches or the three matches that were made event qualifiers took place anywhere from two weeks to like three months ago on main event.

01:05:08.905 --> 01:05:16.675
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Justin, they got room for YouTube streamers, but they don't got room for a guy name, Royce Keys.

01:05:17.056 --> 01:05:18.257
[SPEAKER_01]: Where's he yet, right now?

01:05:21.742 --> 01:05:26.408
[SPEAKER_02]: Jared, I got on television before fucking Royce Keys did.

01:05:26.962 --> 01:05:30.186
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's just, they might end up using him well.

01:05:30.467 --> 01:05:39.259
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but man, talk about disappointment for a do that is such a hard worker that we've all seen has a lot of potential in this business.

01:05:40.260 --> 01:05:46.749
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I didn't blame him for going WWE and giving it, you know, given it a try, see what they do with you.

01:05:46.809 --> 01:05:47.490
[SPEAKER_01]: It's worth it.

01:05:47.510 --> 01:05:49.172
[SPEAKER_01]: He'd been a WWE for many years.

01:05:49.996 --> 01:05:51.419
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, it's not looking good right now.

01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:52.342
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens.

01:05:52.582 --> 01:06:01.845
[SPEAKER_01]: The book has not totally been written, but it's not a good sign when you get a debut in the Royal Rumble and then you have a two-night WrestleMania and you can't crack the cart.

01:06:03.277 --> 01:06:08.786
[SPEAKER_00]: I really want to say something right now, but I don't want to get this band and I know how I'm going to save it for Patreon.

01:06:08.926 --> 01:06:10.308
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a Patreon exclusive right.

01:06:10.389 --> 01:06:11.771
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's just no.

01:06:12.011 --> 01:06:12.993
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to wait this.

01:06:14.055 --> 01:06:15.136
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you know where you're going.

01:06:15.597 --> 01:06:16.619
[SPEAKER_00]: You properly do.

01:06:17.320 --> 01:06:18.141
[SPEAKER_00]: So have to do with the booker.

01:06:19.063 --> 01:06:25.273
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, 110% and also who's being featured now on TV recently in the last month.

01:06:25.854 --> 01:06:27.036
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know where you're going.

01:06:27.356 --> 01:06:27.917
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:06:28.724 --> 01:06:37.475
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, speaking of that, if Obofemi doesn't beat Brock Lesnar, I mean my god, there is no hope because that should be automatic.

01:06:37.535 --> 01:06:39.658
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you think it's good.

01:06:39.678 --> 01:06:44.745
[SPEAKER_02]: They better figure out how to make him a white guy and Brock Lesnar a black guy for that to happen.

01:06:46.747 --> 01:06:58.242
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy, but just seeing what they did do on Monday night, this if you didn't see this, this might draw you back to WWE product.

01:06:59.167 --> 01:07:08.518
[SPEAKER_01]: Because aren't they building isn't supposed to be Orton isn't that the match why she came out she came out and she said that Cody

01:07:08.684 --> 01:07:10.126
[SPEAKER_01]: can't beat Orton right now.

01:07:10.166 --> 01:07:13.872
[SPEAKER_01]: This carnation of Randy Orton, he can't beat him.

01:07:14.192 --> 01:07:18.518
[SPEAKER_01]: She said, Cody, you're not your father and you can't beat him.

01:07:18.999 --> 01:07:25.228
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what Cody said to Stephanie Justin, he said, Stephanie, I got news for you.

01:07:25.849 --> 01:07:27.572
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not your father either.

01:07:28.113 --> 01:07:33.240
[SPEAKER_01]: And that was supposed to be an insult to say that she's not a sexual predator.

01:07:36.697 --> 01:07:40.622
[SPEAKER_01]: And when he said that to her, she slapped him for that.

01:07:40.842 --> 01:07:41.943
[SPEAKER_01]: That's when the slap happened.

01:07:42.945 --> 01:07:51.615
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the whole story at the end was supposed to be that she's like waking up Cody and he thanked her because this is what he needed to take Randy Orton seriously.

01:07:51.855 --> 01:07:53.798
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, did he do that on TV?

01:07:53.958 --> 01:07:55.139
[SPEAKER_01]: He thanked her on television?

01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:58.063
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he did.

01:07:58.043 --> 01:07:59.105
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not imagining this either.

01:07:59.245 --> 01:07:59.906
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:07:59.926 --> 01:08:03.471
[SPEAKER_01]: So this was their, this is their plan.

01:08:03.491 --> 01:08:09.820
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's been a lot of criticism around the wrestling sphere of their booking being bad and the WrestleMania bill being bad.

01:08:10.481 --> 01:08:13.245
[SPEAKER_01]: So they looked at it and they said, you know what, we're in Madison Square Guard.

01:08:13.265 --> 01:08:13.966
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what we need to do.

01:08:14.006 --> 01:08:16.189
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to have Stephanie McMahon from the camera.

01:08:17.030 --> 01:08:20.736
[SPEAKER_01]: And when he brought, uh, we need triple H in front of the camera.

01:08:20.756 --> 01:08:21.657
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's what we need.

01:08:21.837 --> 01:08:23.059
[SPEAKER_00]: So they both got screenshot.

01:08:23.079 --> 01:08:23.600
[SPEAKER_01]: They both got screen time.

01:08:23.620 --> 01:08:25.182
[SPEAKER_01]: They both got screen time.

01:08:26.579 --> 01:08:28.341
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you got to two things.

01:08:28.582 --> 01:08:35.050
[SPEAKER_00]: You got a really light, but it was audible enough to hear either a we want Vince chant.

01:08:36.031 --> 01:08:37.974
[SPEAKER_00]: You could hear some fans out there.

01:08:37.994 --> 01:08:43.782
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't it wasn't overwhelming, but it was light enough or loud enough to cringe.

01:08:44.463 --> 01:08:45.744
[SPEAKER_00]: And then losers.

01:08:45.764 --> 01:08:46.485
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

01:08:46.585 --> 01:08:53.194
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you had Cody Rhodes, the SmackDown on Disputed World Champion on Rod's Netflix show.

01:08:54.676 --> 01:09:07.453
[SPEAKER_00]: for what reason I don't know and uh... just in what you mention about open rock switching uh... switching races that's probably going to be about thirty percent of my rent on the patreon show yeah good go off yes

01:09:08.885 --> 01:09:12.268
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess what you can say is, we're not super excited for WrestleMania.

01:09:12.969 --> 01:09:14.390
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a couple of weeks away.

01:09:14.430 --> 01:09:21.838
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the week after Dynasty, I'll let you guess which show is going to be better, almost certainly, from a wrestling perspective.

01:09:22.318 --> 01:09:23.499
[SPEAKER_02]: Which weekend is WrestleMania?

01:09:24.260 --> 01:09:25.601
[SPEAKER_01]: See, 19.

01:09:25.621 --> 01:09:27.523
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, two weeks.

01:09:27.543 --> 01:09:28.824
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm busy that weekend.

01:09:29.305 --> 01:09:30.846
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, of course, just a bit.

01:09:30.866 --> 01:09:31.827
[SPEAKER_02]: I got something going on.

01:09:31.847 --> 01:09:33.028
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to floss your teeth.

01:09:33.909 --> 01:09:36.732
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, go to Teen Wolves home game.

01:09:36.712 --> 01:09:38.354
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, got to wash my hair.

01:09:38.414 --> 01:09:39.516
[SPEAKER_02]: What's left of it?

01:09:43.041 --> 01:09:47.408
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you look like you have a full head of hair on the stream Justin, so it's looking good.

01:09:47.428 --> 01:09:48.629
[SPEAKER_02]: It's my only good angle.

01:09:51.474 --> 01:09:53.877
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I have two quick things.

01:09:54.042 --> 01:09:59.270
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just going to say we could bring Roman Reigns on and he could call you all, who started ratings.

01:09:59.731 --> 01:10:00.512
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:10:00.532 --> 01:10:01.674
[SPEAKER_00]: We're a pastor bedtime, guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, go ahead, Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, I did mention to you guys in passing, I would much rather have seen Will Osprey and Pack in St. Paul than Kenny Omega and Swerve.

01:10:16.036 --> 01:10:20.202
[SPEAKER_00]: It would have made more sense because Kenny Omega could have wrestled in his hometown of Winnipeg.

01:10:20.806 --> 01:10:24.151
[SPEAKER_00]: But I wanted your thoughts on aspirin pack last night if you, if you've seen it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I is different than when I was expecting, you know, for sure because it wasn't your typical aspirin match where you didn't even get the full entrance first of all.

01:10:33.904 --> 01:10:38.110
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I wanted the great entrances in wrestling gets attacked and you know sells the neck injury throughout.

01:10:38.190 --> 01:10:39.472
[SPEAKER_01]: So different.

01:10:39.853 --> 01:10:40.353
[SPEAKER_01]: I liked it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not what I was expecting though.

01:10:42.877 --> 01:10:43.217
[SPEAKER_01]: Justin.

01:10:43.598 --> 01:10:44.599
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I dug it.

01:10:44.659 --> 01:10:45.160
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_02]: you'd have to be an absolute weirdo, not to be able to enjoy Will Osprey and Pack in a wrestling ring.

01:10:52.344 --> 01:10:53.665
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that would just be odd.

01:10:54.926 --> 01:11:02.754
[SPEAKER_02]: But not as good as they're all outmatched from a couple years ago, but yeah, still excellent to move the story forward.

01:11:03.214 --> 01:11:10.702
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I liked what they do with Moxley at the end, where the death writers all attack him, put Osprey's neck in the chair, and then he backs him off.

01:11:11.182 --> 01:11:11.863
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

01:11:11.883 --> 01:11:12.884
[SPEAKER_01]: Says it's not personal.

01:11:12.944 --> 01:11:14.185
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't make a personal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Evolving that fire right now.

01:11:17.783 --> 01:11:25.234
[SPEAKER_01]: He is just locked in man, that's what made me want to go back and read his book again You know, just been pageant through his book.

01:11:25.254 --> 01:11:26.375
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what a cool guy, man.

01:11:26.776 --> 01:11:32.764
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, just what I mean Talk about somebody who is completely

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[SPEAKER_02]: altered our perception of him from a year ago, where we were just so down on where the deathwriters were at and where they are now, you know, it's like back in the fall, we're all expecting the deathwriters going to be turned in on moxley anytime now and that hasn't happened and I don't see that happen anytime soon and I'm glad it didn't happen.

01:11:53.366 --> 01:12:01.435
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, rightfully so at the time when we were criticizing him and the title reign was not working, but ultimately by the end they got it working.

01:12:02.225 --> 01:12:04.732
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, he's really turned it around.

01:12:05.153 --> 01:12:12.132
[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, post all in, I would say, he's really rode this hot streak moving forward.

01:12:12.453 --> 01:12:13.315
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: creative and well-written promos or more so from the talent themselves and that's always been John Moxley's strength even on the independence was his ability to talk and not have to have somebody right material for them.

01:12:27.445 --> 01:12:32.251
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's much better suited for in AEW setting than others.

01:12:32.292 --> 01:12:34.695
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's just what separates AEW and WWE's.

01:12:34.795 --> 01:12:37.058
[SPEAKER_00]: If you can cut a really good promo and you can

01:12:37.038 --> 01:12:42.346
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, get a good crowd response, doing it from an entrepreneurial perspective, being able to do it on your own.

01:12:43.047 --> 01:12:44.429
[SPEAKER_00]: You can make it somewhere.

01:12:44.470 --> 01:12:45.591
[SPEAKER_00]: Moxley just proved it.

01:12:45.651 --> 01:13:00.755
[SPEAKER_00]: He laid the blueprint down and you're still seeing guys kind of follow that script, whereas in we're listening entertainment, the people who are kind of, I think with the exception of maybe a Ricky Starks, a lot of those guys are heading over the WWE and they have to kind of have things written for them.

01:13:01.015 --> 01:13:05.442
[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess I suppose Cody could cut some promos to on his own, but

01:13:05.422 --> 01:13:12.771
[SPEAKER_00]: everybody else is just kind of, they're letting their weaknesses kind of hide in the background hoping the WWE can make some magic with them.

01:13:12.791 --> 01:13:14.894
[SPEAKER_00]: And thus far in most cases, it hasn't worked.

01:13:17.657 --> 01:13:19.520
[SPEAKER_01]: Well guys, I think that's about all we have this week.

01:13:19.540 --> 01:13:24.486
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a fun show when a little bit longer than I was expecting, but man, always fun to talk with the guys.

01:13:24.766 --> 01:13:26.388
[SPEAKER_01]: Good to talk with you all in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you can hear that rant Jesse has on tap.

01:13:47.438 --> 01:13:48.921
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm by Paul Levix booking.

01:13:49.422 --> 01:13:50.223
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll want to hear that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guarantee you that as well.

01:13:52.727 --> 01:13:57.053
[SPEAKER_01]: So guys, any parting words before we go off the air?

01:13:58.075 --> 01:14:01.500
[SPEAKER_02]: My shadow knows my podcast.

01:14:03.235 --> 01:14:19.185
[SPEAKER_01]: that do that song fucking slaps life that is good yeah well you know normally i would roll with that and i'd play us out to that but i'm gonna go with bruised purple rain from back to many apple show the other day i'm gonna pull the audio off of youtube with that

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want Tim Jensen before we go if he's still in the chat to kind of point out to say that he told us so about Tumaso Champa, because he was the one that truly believed in nobody else.

01:14:30.055 --> 01:14:31.097
[SPEAKER_00]: I think in our group did.

01:14:31.998 --> 01:14:40.633
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, he was, yeah, there was a lot of criticism in the discord about him jumping over, but Tim pretty much right away from the start and said, no, no, it's fine.

01:14:40.613 --> 01:14:49.409
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, in our defense, we saw nothing from his previous three years, and WWE that would make us feel confident about a good AW run.

01:14:50.952 --> 01:14:52.054
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like.

01:14:54.779 --> 01:15:04.917
[SPEAKER_00]: But what has chopped the doing game, I said, well, why don't you look at it, he, all he changed was he went back to his NXT character, that's what made him special.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Dante, see you in this name.

01:15:11.623 --> 01:15:12.784
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you one more.

01:15:12.804 --> 01:15:14.326
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a benefit of being on the Patreon.

01:15:14.426 --> 01:15:17.529
[SPEAKER_01]: You get your name across the bottom of the screen when the scroll comes.

01:15:18.050 --> 01:15:18.430
[SPEAKER_01]: There it is.

01:15:19.171 --> 01:15:21.914
[SPEAKER_00]: One more prince in the Revolution reference from Dave Shappelle for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This podcast tonight, game blouses.

01:15:29.883 --> 01:15:33.668
[SPEAKER_01]: I could have said game bulb guys, but I still have all my hairs, not gunwood.

01:15:34.469 --> 01:15:34.989
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, boys.

01:15:35.390 --> 01:15:36.591
[SPEAKER_01]: Lucky bastard.

01:15:38.900 --> 01:15:44.408
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, with that said, I'm going to play you out to Purple Rain from Minneapolis, Minnesota.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tuesday night, Spregg see an Easter band, and we'll talk to you all next week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Take care, everybody.

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[UNKNOWN]: Peace.

01:16:07.604 --> 01:16:27.587
[SPEAKER_03]: And the magic holes in the red land I'll never want to see you like it I'll never want to see you like it

01:16:35.802 --> 01:17:03.835
[SPEAKER_03]: To the floor where I'm over there The way I'm over there I'll be alone to steal them in the corner Never wanna be alone again or again

01:17:07.072 --> 01:17:21.132
[SPEAKER_03]: You're in more of me, so I can't do so I can never feel you wrong I can't stop by the road