Brock Lesnar Returns, Cody Prevails, WWE SummerSlam Night 2 Review
Cody Rhodes wins the title back from John Cena, but Brock Lesnar's return steals the headlines (and has us ranting).
Plus, an awesome triple threat women's match that opened the show, an unfortunate incident with a zip tie, and much more!
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, guys, I guess I know why they're not doing the media scrubs anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Episode three, ninety-two of Top Rope Nation WWE Summerslam Night Two just ended moments ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're here to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to vent in our chat room, feel free.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Love to get you involved in the show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get your thoughts on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The return of Brock Lesnar did not see that one coming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll give you that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder why?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder why nobody saw that coming.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Brock Lesnar, who is still named in an ongoing lawsuit against WWE Invinciac Man by Janelle Grant, has been brought back by the WWE to assumingly feud with a babyface John Cena perhaps will end up being John Cena's last match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll have to see about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's very strange because, you know, Cody Rhodes won the World title tonight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Dips out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you think you're getting John Cena celebrating in his last summer slam send off and then Brock's theme comes on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there was a pop by the crowd instantly because they were shocked.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they got very quiet, it seemed like to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they didn't really know how to respond.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was this weird kind of feeling came across the crowd.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably many of them thinking the same thing that we're thinking Justin joins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Justin, let me just say first off, I'm so sad you weren't here with us this morning to talk about night one, which was a supremely better show from the WWE.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And night two, there's going to be a lot of complaints here, I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How are you doing tonight, man?
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[SPEAKER_02]: been better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been fucking better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody who listens to the show regularly kind of knows my general feelings on WWE.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I started getting a little nervous, you know, two and a half matches in where I'm, you know, I'm kind of having a good time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I might have to get to get on this review show and praise this company.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And luckily, they spent the rest of the show making sure I would not have to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Are you drinking tonight?
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[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't done a late night show in a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, not drinking at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not drinking at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, zombie dust.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep, cause I feel bad inside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse, you're instant thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How you doing tonight, man?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, I'm okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That guy was a NCAA champion, uh, my freshman year at the University of Minnesota, ran through the wait room a couple of times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he was a humble dude and then you look and see what's going on with the Janelle Grant case and I'm pretty silent about it all right now I'm actually if you threw that out the window his return I actually liked the main event I mean it was definitely better than the WrestleMania outing from those two yeah I mean it didn't hold a candle the last night's main event but it was a much better match when we saw it in mania I have some squabbles with the the finish
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[SPEAKER_02]: and the overdone finishers, which we'll get to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You get a trimmed off ten minutes of that match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But hard to feel good about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know the way without the air, I just, I don't even know what to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're just, they spent the entire weekend leaning in to what they are, and telling you exactly what they are, and what they believe in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, everybody's gonna have different opinions on
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[SPEAKER_01]: on what that is and what that means to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But speaking for myself, it just makes me feel gross and I just don't know how much longer I can continue watching this product because I just don't like it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked about in the past, you know, like WWE's business obviously has been doing very good for a couple of years and they seem to like, sometimes I ranted a couple of months ago about this, on how, you know, it was
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[SPEAKER_02]: hard to root from based on how they were throwing some of the politics in your face.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's like, oh, the company's hot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can do whatever we want.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We can charge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: ridiculous tickets and people are gonna buy him because we're hot right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I feel like this stuff's all gonna circle around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna bite up eventually.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the ticket prices are still outrageous.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, now they're just leaning into the political stuff, which they used to shy away from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the, that's the weirdest part is much of a monster as Vince McMahon is is he never really showed his cards that much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When it came to those kind of beliefs, but now here we are in the trips era and he just, he's going full blown with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I thought was going to happen when John was out there at the end and there I thought someone was going to come out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was going to be Hunter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought for sure, Hunter is going to walk out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: His themes and a come on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to big embrace with John and be there for the clothes that that's what I thought it was going to be.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll get you guys to take on this too, but you know, with Brock being back and whatever they're setting up, you know, they might have him wrestle Sina and Paris, they might wrestle in Australia, they might wrestle in San Diego and at Survivor Series, who knows?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need to see the match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Even if luck wasn't named in this ongoing lawsuit and he was totally clean and the hands wiped of that whole situation, I still wouldn't be clamoring for this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I guess if you're a new fan,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen it before like many times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do I want to see others?
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[SPEAKER_02]: John Cena final run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see him wrestle young talent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's never worked with and put those guys over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see him lose the gunther in his last match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I want to see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need to see him wrestle Brock Lesnar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no draw in that to me whatsoever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, drop he losing one sided to Gunther who is going to be
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[SPEAKER_02]: in this company's main event scene for the next decade plus makes a lot more sense than running back something with the guys, you know, he's worked with going back almost twenty five years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't know, it doesn't appeal to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'm going to wrong target them on this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is going to end with I love Vince McMahon the most on a poll match between Brock Lesnar and John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There, there's no way that they're going to be able to touch the extreme rules match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that they had, but was that after WrestleMania twenty eight, or the summer slam squash squash, which was just perfect.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Perfect for what they were doing in the moment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we just saw to not to make this about a W or anything like that, but we just saw what happens when two legends, you know, have a rematch years down the road between Kenny Omega and Ocata.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not what their previous matches were, but I think those guys are so technically sound and so smart in the ring that they made a work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand how this match works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in nor do I care because of everything else in the background.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's just going to hurt you do more, but I'm not the target audience anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so I'm there's from what I'm seeing online.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot of people very excited about this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got some good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We've got a chat room.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's somewhat active right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm seeing some names that were just in the Bleacher Report show with me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You guys for.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Grating over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Brittany's here again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She was in a good morning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: James, I think, was on the Bleacher Report show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Followed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe also.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got Ryan Huffman here as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ryan checking in saying, a year from now will be Lesnar's final match in Minneapolis.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully to lose the Gunther.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Be fun for a Gunther to beat both Goldberg and Lesnar to send them out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Britney's a hundred percent correct in her comment that she just made to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Britney says maybe Sino wanted Brock back and wanted to feud with him before he retires.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't know if he's ever been the type of guy to like call his opponents it seems like he's always been like just company man go with the flow, but that would not surprise me at all if he wants to go out with a quote unquote bang against somebody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: follow out checking in about the politics stuff says hunter always been a fan of the president regardless I can't even imagine how the fans there felt you could tell there was a gas I mean I saw the the clips of when they showed the fitness council thing and there's so there's a lot of booze in the audience you know you think about that though is like when Trump was the president the first time
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[SPEAKER_02]: and Vince was still around.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They went out of their way to never talk about it because it was like he was such a controversial president and still is obviously.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Vince has like been friends with this guy since the eighties and he didn't even put it on TV.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they never even talked about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, if you play the WWE two K video games, they have a thing where you like re-enact old WrestleMania's and they show footage
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[SPEAKER_02]: of some of the old matches, and when they show the footage of Mania's four and five, they actually blur out Trump in the front row.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know that could be like a, I don't know, maybe they have to pay Trump if he's on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but they do blur them out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, they never talked about how the president of the United States is in their Hall of Fame in the host to two WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They just shy away because they knew they're going to piss off after audience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now, you know, ever since the TKO thing, they just
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[SPEAKER_02]: they embrace it and look, you know, some of that I can overlook.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, regardless how you feel about the administration, I'm sure it's an honor frame to go to the White House, you know, find whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's that on top of other stuff that they've been doing that starts to rub some fans a wrong way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're getting very cocky with what they're doing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They feel like they can do no wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, usually that kind of thing and that kind of attitude comes back to bite companies, but see what happens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it still can over the next couple of years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you look at, I mean, prime example, like WUCW-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-UN-
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not necessarily because of what's going on in the ring, but like who they're bringing back?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, Sena's done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming Leser's gonna be done very soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Goldberg's done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got, how many nostalgic acts do they have left?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they gonna keep pulling the undertaker out of retirement to Shokeslam young talent on NXT?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or are they gonna actually have them come to the main roster and do it again to Braun Breaker?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They pulled that trick off in the middle of an NXT AEW head ahead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that a couple of years ago when the Undertaker and John Cena showed up and they somehow just merely beat a W in a ratings showdown because a W moved to a Tuesday night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is all just it's mind boggling to me what they're getting away with and I alluded to this on unplugged
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[SPEAKER_00]: you look at x.com and how they're reacting on one side you go over to blue sky and you go holy shit like they they see clearly what's going on they're like how can you continue to support this company when they keep pulling shit like this yeah yeah it's
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to get into like a huge conversation on their business and everything because obviously the businesses on fire for them right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They just sold over a hundred thousand tickets for back to back nights.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I would like that set.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still a wrestling fan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree kind of with Justin saying about sometimes it's hard to support him based on the outside of the ring stuff for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt really good this morning reviewing night one though.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was such a fun show to watch and other than the one little video clip they showed kind of forget about that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then this show just, it started out really good as we're going to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then as it went on, I had problems with it, just created problems with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just really hated the way it ended.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And just left me feeling pretty bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't feel great about the show anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it kind of, I still like that one a lot, but just, it just kind of ruins the whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and it's just weird.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it wasn't that long ago.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that AEW was selling more tickets in the same market than WWE was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know the WWE trolls right now, like to talk about how, you know, WWE's on fire and AEW struggles sometimes to sell tickets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But like, Justin, we were in Las Vegas three years ago for double or nothing where they sold out the team mobile center.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they were running money in the bank at a Legion.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like a month and a half later, whatever it was, and they had to move the show because they couldn't sell enough tickets.
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[SPEAKER_02]: WWE, WWE was running a billboard up and down the Las Vegas strip, trying to detract for the WWE show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The AW was a company that had only been around two and a half years, three years, and they were outselling WWE in some markets, which was remarkable.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're obviously not doing that now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, for the fans that are not liking and feeling great about this stuff, there's another product now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, this is a real small sample size and mentions on the show before, but I'm seeing more and more like on social media that people say, I might have to give a W to try.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like this kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that stuff can add up over the course of years, but I'll be interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See what happens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's you know, big part of us to each the round what you're looking for in a wrestling show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like there was a point tonight where one of the matches ended and I was like, all right, I got a couple things I got to do quick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to get my laundry switched over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to go do something for the kids and I was like, I can want to try and get back so I can pay attention to the show for this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I made it back with like ten minutes to spare.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just more advertisements and other bullshit filler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I completely moved laundry over and it just didn't even make a dent in the space in between matches on this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, I think we could talk about the main event here really quickly and then talk about the rest of the first match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We are going to start with the last match and then we'll go back to the rest of the show because I assume most of the people who clicked on this video, they're going to want to hear about Brock's return in the main event.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was on the bleacher report stream.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I did not take thorough notes on the show and this morning I did because I went back and I watched Gunther and Punk a second time so I could take notes on it and we were really thorough on this morning's show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you want to hear us talk about night one,
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[SPEAKER_02]: check out the archive for that here on the channel or the podcast feed, but on this one it's really going to be coming off the top of my head and whatever you guys have.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I thought Cody's entrance with the homage to Dusty with super cool, you know, how they had the polka dots and Dusty talking on the screen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did notice like when Cody came out he wasn't as handsy with the fans like given the high fives like he usually does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was starting to wonder if he might turn heel in this match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, John obviously got the full on baby face entrance like he hasn't had in quite some time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I had that turn on SmackDown.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, the match itself, just going off of memory, at times it didn't really feel like a street fight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were some weapons here and there, but it was mostly like a regular match with a couple of weapons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they finally got out there and they started going through the crowd and fighting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They went up by the stage, or that stage was just massive.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you saw the camera angle of it down on the field,
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[SPEAKER_02]: you could really tell how big it was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like when you saw from the hard cam, it looks pretty big.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you're down there looking up it like holy shit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have massive stage built up in there and they get over by the stage and they go under the stage and they ended up coming up the elevator that Cody uses for his entrance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And John is like holding Cody in the AA position and smirking at the camera.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was pretty funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was really cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But speaking of the AA, John Cena
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[SPEAKER_02]: hit eight, eight, eight is a mismatch.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I kept it tally and one of them was through a table, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, or was it two through a table?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He did the one through the announced table, they did the super one off the top room.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was almost like eight and a half a a a's and that was an enough to beat Cody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cody, who did ultimately win with the crossroads, hit six crossroads.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Fourteen finishers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, for whatever you want to say about New Japan and AEW and over done finishers, I have never seen an AEW match or someone hit their finish eight times and it wasn't enough to get the victory.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Six times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that was way over done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, Cody at one point, he hit three rolling crossroads and couldn't get the win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But what got him with a win was when he was up there on the top rope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And John was going to AM through the table.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He did what they called a Cody cutter, but it was really him just like jumping off the ropes and kind of throwing John's head at the table.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just jumped through a table.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what the move was.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was the cookie cutter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then right after that, he hits the crossroads.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just one of them this time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to finish off John cleanly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did not like the finishing sequence at all way too many finishers, but definitely a better match in WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't for sure give them that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And entertaining moments throughout, like I said, like the stage thing was pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There were some cool spots throughout the match that I'm not recalling off top of my head right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I definitely liked it a lot more than WrestleMania, but I think they could have, they could have got the one, two, three a little bit differently, I think.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead, Justin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This match dragged really bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I agree that I think it was significantly better than WrestleMania.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think a big part of that is because John Cena is at his best when he's playing Super Cena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we finally got that the baby face Super Cena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what makes him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they finally got to do that tonight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the issue was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of the discombobulation of like everybody maybe expecting, you know, is it gonna be a swarve with Sina turning heel again or is it gonna be Cody turning heel?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think if they had just scrapped that baby face promo from Sina, I wish they would have just, you know, for like a month, layered it on quietly that Sina's like maybe questioning his ways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for them to have this match for Cody, just to seemingly trust that John Cena is a true blue baby face considering everything that Cena has done to him, especially at WrestleMania, and he gives him some fucking salute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's made his life fucking miserable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He took his real title away, but they just played everything straight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the part I really didn't like about this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't make any sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have done the whole finish.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that should have been the baby face turn was them having this epic long match in Sina having the moment where he's going to do something maybe nefarious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he doesn't, which is unfortunately a trope we see way too much nowadays in professional wrestling.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I want to hit him, but oh, shit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I should that would have actually worked here with this scenario in this storyline.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been telling he could have not done that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It maybe could have cost him the match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he could have had the true turn, the true baby face turn where he gives the title to Cody saying, hey, you're the man now, you know, you
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've truly earned this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've brought the best out of me and you made me see the errors in my way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have done that with just facial expressions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But instead of just all left me kind of cold even though again, I didn't hate the match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just too long and it didn't jive with me with the baby face in heel storytelling.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Cody leaned into the heel a couple of times by taking the bottom of the turn buckle in like just a totally tearing apart though the ring ropes as a whole using that as a weapon a few times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the beginning when they hugged it out and then they just start throwing fists and seeing a grabbing tie Reese Haliburton's crutch and using that I thought that was kind of a fun spot too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so in Sino, I have been giving him all this shit for moving like, nineteen ninety six and nineteen ninety eight Hollywood Hogan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He actually started to move like two thousand eighteen John Cena again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like he actually cared at this point in time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll give him kudos for that, but yeah, like blurring those lines between the face and heel or
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just, you know, trying to play the face card there was a definite different way that you could have done it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't have to do the Friday night promo, which was good, but you did something that you could have done through storytelling in this match on Sunday and just made him see his ways as opposed to how you did it on Friday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, some of the other stuff that happened, you're like, Cody hitting Cena twice with the turn buckle like the metal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that wasn't enough to put them away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No juice, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, when you get hit in the head, no steel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you take, you know, the AA, or the Cody cutter, whatever, face first through a tape, you got to have blood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Especially after what we saw last night, this match really needed blood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That it would have benefited from that, I think, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There was a point two where John hit just a crazy leg drop off the top rope, finished it with right after that with an AA.
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[SPEAKER_02]: also not enough to be Cody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Just like the amount of stuff they were laying in, I just, I think it was overdone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead, Justin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was two, I, because, you know, I based it off of last night in the show and being around this same time, I let my kids stay up and watch the show, the entire thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the two things he was so confused by that, it's like, why aren't they bleeding after, you know, the turns of very ends, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he just watched the Texas death mention for don't judge me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody out there for being a bad parent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can handle it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first two minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, Jesse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not scarred at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he was just very confused about seeing all of this and there was like no blood or anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the other thing he was super confused about was them talking about why the pile driver was banned when he sees it all the time in A and W's like, why is that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, well,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It got boshed once a long time ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they just ban that one move even though they do hundreds of other moves that are a thousand times more dangerous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, that's the best I can give on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Ryan will get into this later, but they alluded to that batch from summer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm nineteen ninety seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We also saw a destroyer on the floor from John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which they've been busting out destroyers ever since Penta is come into this promotion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, two thousand twenty five has been the year of either the pile driver or the name your nationality destroyer.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the, you know, the rope stuff I thought was creative.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned it, Jesse, you know, they're choking each other out with the ring rope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The problem was they didn't lay that in enough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like John Cena just cannot do an STF with the rope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So first he does the regular one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you can see air between his forearms and Cody's head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he does it with the rope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the rope is like not even touching his head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it looked terrible on that close up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't, at least just don't shoot at that close.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have it on properly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cody kind of used it and was like wrapping around his head in some weird way, but didn't really look like it was doing anything.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, creative, but I'm not sure was executed with the best, but then yeah, you know, Cody wins like I said.
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[SPEAKER_02]: after the sixth crossroads celebrates embraces John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cody is like holding back tears.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cody dips out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: John is like we said, he's in the ring doing his send off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then as we talked about, out comes Brock Lesnar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we at the F five, Brock just kind of walked around and people didn't know how to respond.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's how they went off the air.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The story was not Cody Rhodes becoming World Champion again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was Brock Lesnar's return and John Cena.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the thing that really irritates me the most, all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, irritates his and the right word, but going back to your opening joke of the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, that's why Triple H isn't doing press conferences anyway.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There might be one person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: who would be in that room that would actually even ask about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they probably just wouldn't let him in anyways.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd still be like, how was it being a new, or if you go by WB?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How was it being a New York City New Jersey tonight for the show?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they would still, the people that would be in that room would not hit them with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's also super crappy to all the media members that travel there on their own expense, expecting to get to do the media scrum and get some quotes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they just cancel it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They've been doing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You need to at least alert these people who give you free press all the time that you're not going to do that this time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was kind of a last minute thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw some people were pretty pissed about that that it traveled out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what it comes down to is they want to always control the narrative.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have viewed those press grums as part of the show and when media members don't treat it as part of the show and they're not just happy to be there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't like it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they ended it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the thing is, if you're a big corporation, you got to be able to answer questions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if someone's in there asking you a tough question, you got to be able to answer those questions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Every professional sports team does this multiple times a week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and if you can't do it, get Paul LeVec, some media training.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, as I'm stealing this from Trevor Dame, Paul LeVec is Sherman soft.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not going to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We got to, we got to get rolling here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, beginning of the show, you guessed it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hunter her soundsly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Paul Leveck comes out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Very generous of him to only do this at the start of night two and not both nights.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he came out and I, all this kid said when Hunter was out there talking,
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[SPEAKER_02]: quote, I wrote it in my notes, this takes up a lot of time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can we just get to the wrestling here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: It takes up a lot of time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Can we just get to the wrestling here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, you're right, right on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then we had a hell of a match open this show.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You guys, it was the women's world title, triple threat, eosky, rear ripply.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, the champion, Naomi.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Naomi got a special entrance tonight her dad played her to the ring out there on his guitar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This I mean to me, this is the match of the night.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think by a long shot for me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would say so too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the match itself, you're going to note, I took a lot of notes early and then I'm just going to go off a vibe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So at the very beginning, so EO and Ripley, they're double-teaming Naomi briefly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Ria accidentally takes out EO with a kick and then Naomi hits his cross body off the top.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It takes out both of them and they just like WWE triple threats.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You kind of just take turns working the singles matches usually.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ripley, she goes to suplex Naomi to the outside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it looked like Naomi kind of bit her or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure what happened there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, you did her in the hand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So then Naomi ends up giving sky and X factor right after that on the outside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You get Naomi Kicking Ripley, who was holding Sky, which sent Rea down holding her into like a DVD, so she took out both of them at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Naomi is just dominating most of the early portion of the match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She had a blockbuster off the top to Ripley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Eosci goes for a missile drop kick off the top, but Naomi just dodges it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then finally get Ripley and Sky starting to come back after Naomi was dominant.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ripley slams Naomi.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sky hits this springboard drop kick on Naomi.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're now starting to double team the champ.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Get a six one nine by sky into a release German by Ripley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's eosciversus rea Ripley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you crowd got really into this when it was just those two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ripley goes for the rip tide, but it's countered by eo into a cradle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So then sky locks in this cross face briefly and Ripley lifts her up on her shoulders.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then sky hits the poison ranna to counter that, which was a cool sequence I thought.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ripley ends up giving eo a razor's edge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then a big power bomb Naomi jumps in there to break up the pen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You get Ripley and Naomi fighting on the outside and then Sky hits a springboard moon salt to the outside that takes out both of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: EO hits her bullet train, double knees move to both women back and forth, and the turn buckles back on the ring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sky goes for her moon salt, but riffly pushes her into the ring post up top.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then Naomi took out Rhea and did a split leg moon salt, went for the cover, and then Sky comes off the top ropes and hits Ripley with the moon salt as Naomi purposefully moves out of the way, so that Sky takes out Ripley.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Naomi then slams Sky down for a two count.
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[SPEAKER_02]: you get Naomi taken out sky with a knee to the face and then Ripley hits Naomi with the rip tie that sky breaks it up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sky and Ripley back and forth slugging it out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You get Ripley taken out Naomi on the outside with a front centon off the apron.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You get sky hitting the sunset flip power bomb through the ropes on Ripley to the outside tossing Rhea on top of Naomi on the process.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and then back in the ring, Ripley hits sky with a rip tide off the turn buckle.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Naomi breaks up the pin and she rolls up Ripley from behind for the pinfall, retaining the title, sixteen minutes, twenty seconds, really, really awesome match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought like right around four stars for me, probably.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice and tight, sixteen minutes, no complaints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of scared that normally I'm scared for the baby faces that I like a lot, you know, that they're going to lose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rhea in this instance, but I was kind of scared for the heel this time because I think Naomi is truly found herself as this heel character and she's doing fantastic work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was really pleased that she won and how she won, most importantly, in a very heelish manner, it still kind of saves Rhea in that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, for as much as I don't like this product, holy crap are the ladies in WWE absolutely crushing these triple threat matches in twenty twenty five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing incredible work and this was no different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely loved it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was the highlight of the night for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Jesse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The women have arguably been the best part of the product in two thousand and twenty five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we talked about Alexa Bliss and Charlie Flair last night in how like that makes shift tag team is brought something to that division of Morgan's improved quite a bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The editions of Stephanie Vaker, Julia had a pretty solid match on SmackDown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's the United States champion at this point.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, tremendous opener Naomi getting, I'd say what was it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there was sixteen minute long mash yet in like eight minutes where she dominated and it was really, really cool to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I talked about EO and Reas chemistry and I was like, I hopefully Naomi comes up to their levels and I didn't she did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Kudos.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good match.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so that was a great opener.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're thinking, you know, we're on the up and up here tonight too, just like night one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It started out really good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They show Tyre's halibut and rings side.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Got tons of booze obviously from the New York and New Jersey faithful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I show Nick Hogan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's set the better.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Michelle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like the seventh most offensive person on this show right now that we've talked about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: True.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Michelle McCool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they go to the cone zone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The drumstick mascot zone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can see Justin squirming from here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I miss this part somehow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank God.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cones are made.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll go with the cones.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They go a twenty-fifth anniversary of TLC and they show some of the teams from TLC's past.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The deadly boys are out there in the crowd.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The hardies are in the crowd.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, somebody missing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder why.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we get the TLC tag team six pack challenge.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Motor city machine guns versus fraxium versus the street profits versus Andrade and Ray Phoenix versus the champions the white six Joe Gacy and extra luma's versus DIY and Jesse how about that on draw day entrance to your that pop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It sounded about like my office right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Took off his mask and I think it even went more silent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Ryan Hoffman in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He says TLC, fun to smash of the night didn't think they'd get enough time, but this match delivered, liked referencing Dudley's in the hearties, but was missing the best tag team from that match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they were.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, Justin thoughts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I, I thought this was fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am still experiencing you know tag team ladder match fatigue like some of the spots in this match were incredible that Spanish fly through the table was badass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just don't know how much of this is going to you know stay with any of us like a year from now it's just going to be like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a TLC, but that LARP team ended up winning, who gives a shit about them, especially out in the middle of the daylight where they look extra bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really enjoyed it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I really enjoyed it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They lost me with some of the run-ins with the ladies that didn't make sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're already dealing with twelve people in this ring.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why we needed a bunch of run-ins.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I understand that the point of it was that why it six have the numbers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have the damn number game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm just going to read one of my favorite follows tape machines.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason the Wyatt six, one that match was the big brain on Joe, the pig one, Gacy, which is just fucking hilarious, who figured out that you can actually try to unhook the belts rather than just batting at it like a cat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As was the approach of all the other superstars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, some of that was like, what are they doing here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why is it taking, why can't they not grab the belts?
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: My problem, it was a fun match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The only problem I had was just like so many of these teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just like, I have zero investment at all in these teams.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like I could care less about most of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Early in the match, it was just chaos.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I'm not even going to try to write down any notes on this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's just too much happening.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But towards the end, I started to write down some of the bigger spots that happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I started when they did like the three table spots in a row because you had Gargano give like a springboard DDT.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was to Gacy through the table.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Phoenix hit his frog splash on Frazier through a table.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you got a axiom giving a that fan Spanish fly to dockings off the top through the table outside was insane.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you get Candice Lare out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Checking on Gargano.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then she starts climbing the table and they're selling, she's going to get the belts and hand them to DIY.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then B-Fab stops her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Nikki Cross comes out to stop B-Fab.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Candace is trying to get the tag belts as DIY is fighting off people later.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're the only ones in the ring then Candace is again climbing up the ladder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Gargano gets pushed and inadvertently runs into the ladder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was planned, but that's how they sold it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he shoves the ladder over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Candace Lurey comes down over the top rope through the ladder in the outside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like she took most of the landing on the side of her knee in the same looking spot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Left her left knee took most of that impact.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, easily, that or that Spanish fly was the spot of the match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She wasn't even in the match, you know, crazy stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rowen then starts interfering for the riots.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he takes out the street profits briefly until they're attacking him with chairs and they shoved him through a table in the corner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Champa is hanging with the belts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's because the motor city machine gun said and move the ladder other way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's just hanging there and Fraser comes off the ladder trying to spearchamp a, but he lifts himself up like on the hanger upside down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was pretty cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that degree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Gargano places the ladder and
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ford ends up leaping to the ladder and it's those two up on the ladder and he's fighting off chapa and then axiom and Ford fight on the ladder and then you get the motors city machine guns on a ladder next to them and then DIY climb up to and they're all in these ladders and then everyone's reaching for the belts and then Michael Cole calls him bow Dallas
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uncle Howdy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I noticed he didn't say that again, but like, both Dallas is, look, it's Bow Dallas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he was quick to say Uncle Howdy after that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Bow Dallas shoves the ladders over, taking out everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then DIY went through these stack tables on the outside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Howdy Dallas climbs the ladder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He ends up taking a sunset from Andrade off the ladder onto another ladder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And Gacy grabs the titles and the Wyatt six retain right about sixteen minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, yeah, I mean, there was a lot of, a lot of crazy spots happening on not a lot of an emotional investment for me, at least in this tag division, but I popping match Justin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you remember the discourse a while ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a ladder match in a W where everybody freaked out because there was a ref at the bottom stabilizing the ladder for the safety of the guys, even though that is something that happens in WWE all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did it for Chad Gable and money in the bank?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now W is making special tables, where do you see little holes?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, yeah, they're making super safe tables for the guys, which I'm fine with, I just, it's the whole discourse thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not to get ahead of ourselves, but my, I mean, not my biggest issue.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We know what my biggest issue is about the night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, was the end of the night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One of my biggest issues
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[SPEAKER_01]: was the layout of this card was absolutely, honestly, for the entire weekend was horrendous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The next match we're going to talk about, it had some major flaws.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they just move these matches around a little bit, because we're looking at this TLC with all these smashed tables and big spots, well, we're seeing more tables
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[SPEAKER_01]: the rest of the night, and it's all just diminishing returns where it just doesn't mean anything by the end of the night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We had two straight matches where somebody's getting their hands tied, you know, the zip tie in the handcuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, why they saved WCW uncensored for night two of summer slam?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do not and will not ever understand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mix them up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You did your talent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No favor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The crowd was fucking dead for the beginning of the next match.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's because of the match they put in front of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did the ladies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No favors with the way they laid this card out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In my notes, I wrote that not only did they use Dusty Rhodes's promo for Cody Rhodes's entrance, they also used his booking style from nineteen eighty six with those gimmick mages back to back to back to back to back classics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'll learn your history right there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We just talked about that last week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Great American bash eighty six in the archives for YouTube members and patrons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was just blood blood blood blood which Justin's perfectly okay with, but no, they're rude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cage matches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it was just the whole nine yards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go listen to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think before all those crazy spots, one spot that I did enjoy before all those tables that you mentioned Ryan was, I want to say it was Gargano or Champa like whipped Montes forward into the corner and he just leapt over the over the ropes and did a sin ton flying into the corner onto four guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which I thought was super cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was just a real fun car crash.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like a new is going to be high quality entertainment, but yes, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no of ocean, no emotional investment in any of the team, especially on dry day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And what a waste of a talent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This could be an entire episode, but like I have a hard time even getting into the street profits anymore.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what are we doing here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing with Montez Ford?
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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the most gifted athletes in this entire company and he's in a six-pack challenge tag team match and still doing the street profits thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what we're doing here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the guy seems to have star written all over him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see if he can sink or swim.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't know what we're waiting for there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: An Angela Dawkins pulling off probably the most athletic move of his entire WWE career being the recipient of that Spanish fly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was quite impressive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so Justin you mentioned the next match was the icy title match Becky Lynch defending the women's icy title against Lyra Valkyria.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Becky comes out to a brand new theme song that apparently has been in the works for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she'd been using the same theme for like
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[SPEAKER_02]: a decade or more.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I like her theme, but it's cool to get a new theme out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently, we're going to have for months.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is with the ban the wonder years, which I guess is one of Seth's favorite bands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they've been working on it and they viewed it tonight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it works.
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[SPEAKER_02]: In the lyrics, you know, it talks about the man and all of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, the stipulation in the match was if Lyra lost, she could not challenge for the icy title, the women's icy title again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I thought going in, Lyra would probably win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll get to the finish.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Lyra, you know, she's control in the match early.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She misses this dropkick to the outside and Becky ends up tossing her into a table.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so then Becky gets a kendo stick and then Lyra gets this crowbar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, they kind of
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[SPEAKER_02]: stare down each other, which by the way, this was a no-deq, no-count out was a stipulation for the match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's what they can use the weapons.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, they swing their weapons and then obviously the crowbar absolutely destroys this kind of stick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Lyra takes control on the outside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She hit Becky with a cross body.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're fighting around ringside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lyra's laying in these chops.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Send's Becky into the ring post.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She tosses Becky over the announced table.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She goes a drop.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Kick to Becky while she's sitting in the announced chair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Lyra sets up a table, but Becky ends up tagging her with a chain and then a candlestick.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was it a chair?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got a typo here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She tagged her with something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a chain R here in my notes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was either a chain or a chair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a chain.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they used both in the match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then a candlestick to get back in the ring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Becky uses the candlestick to do a Russian leg sweep in the ring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's laying in the candlestick shots here on Lyra.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She gets out of toolbox and some more chairs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's laying in some chair shots.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She gives Lyra a drop to hold into the like the seated part of a chair, which did not come close to connect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They need to get better at these camera angles because I thought there was a bunch of times tonight where they had like the absolute worst camera angle on the move where you could really tell wasn't hit in the main event as we talked about.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they're usually better about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the dressing was kind of off tonight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Becky slams the toolbox into Lyra.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Lyra kicks out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Say then the heart of the match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: is built around the fact that Becky takes out this big zip tie out of the toolbox.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she ties Lyra's hands up in the zip tie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she takes out a wrench and she's laying it in with shots to the stomach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She hits the back splotor, suplex, you know, Lyra's all cuffed with these with a zip tie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: second-bex bloater.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then what I thought was a pretty cool spot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She hangs back up on the ring post using her hands like over the top of the ring post with the zip ties.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So she's hanging there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she's laying in these candlesticks shots to Lyra's stomach.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's part of the match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was before the big snappoo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Becky is, you know, she gives them a leg drop off the ropes for a two count Lyra counters this belly to belly suplex and just kind of hitting some head butts, you know, because she can't use her hands.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And right after this, they're rolling around on the ring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And speaking of the directing, Lyra's hands came out of the zip tie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you could see it clear as day.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she puts them back in the zip tie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was, you know, bad.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Usually these broadcasts are on like a seven second delay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so like normally that's something you can fix in the director's chair to make sure that that cut does not show in the live feed.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it showed, so it's on them partially, yet it's also on Lyra to like, because Lyra doesn't know what camera's on her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If they were on the hard cam, you wouldn't have been able to tell.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably on Liars behalf, like you just, you got a bandit at that point just in case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was obviously such a huge part of the remaining part of the match that she figured she had to get back in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a more savvy veteran says, fuck it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just got to go with this because it's going to take anybody who sees that out of the match completely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She had done a good twelve second Orange Cassidy impersonation before that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, yeah, I don't really know who I would blame more in that situation because she doesn't know where the camera is at.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You've probably got to ditch it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, but at the same time, man, the director should have been able to handle it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to think quickly, you know, but this is a big time promotion and they had the absolute worst camera angle on her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So she put some back in and to me, this just, this, this takes, it takes the grade for the match down a lot because the whole heart of the match was then built around the zip tie thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we just saw her put her hands back in it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And other than that, they had a really good match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we just talked about low spots, really cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The back half of the match is really cool, but the zip tie thing here in the middle just kind of ruined it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, maybe I'm
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[SPEAKER_01]: a weirdo here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I was trying to win a match, I wouldn't have tried putting my hand back in the zip tie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I might be on an island on that wrestling strategy, but I just wouldn't have done that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they should have controlled it in a director's chair, but you know, she had to think quickly on her feet too and probably figured all the spots I got coming up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: unfortunate because they were having a pretty good match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: As you said, it was kind of hard for the fans to get into it after the car crash.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They just saw, but they were really getting into it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how much of the live crowd even noticed the zip tie thing, honestly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, again, a savvy veteran probably informs Becky.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, my hands slipped out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to take over for a second.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Get my hand back in there, tighten it up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and then we can proceed with all of our plans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So after she put her hands back in the zip side, she hits a drop kick and then she does a moon salt off the second rope and Laira slams Becky's head into the chair over and over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lyra unties the turn buckle pad on the top rope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She Lyra is sent to the outside, but then she crawls under the ring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She gets this fire extinguisher and as Becky comes out, she sprays Becky with it and then she crawls back under the ring and somehow then gets her hands untied.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She comes out and the zip ties gone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Becky comes up with a kendo stick and Lira steals it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She nails Becky with it a bunch of times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She hits a drop kick through the ropes to the outside, which hits this chair that Becky was holding right into Becky's face.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lira ends up countering a manhandle slam off the steel steps and she hits a slam of her own.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They go back in the ring.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lyra's charging the corner, but she goes into that exposed turn buckle that she undid earlier and then she gets a manhandle slam through the chairs that are set up in the ring but kicks out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So then Lyra rolls outside and Becky hits her with the chair and then slams Lyra's head in the chair multiple times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me, and then
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[SPEAKER_02]: Becky wraps Lyra up in this chair like through the opening in the chair and she's like constrained in this chair and then Becky rams it into the announced table and then Lyra backs up Becky into the ring pose using the chair but then Becky comes back and she's swinging Lyra around in the chair into the post and then Becky comes off the announced table and she stomps the chair as it's around Lyra and I'm telling you that Lyra sold this awesome because she was dead by in there and
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[SPEAKER_02]: Becky then gets out the crowbar and she goes to swing it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But Bailey, I didn't know where it comes through the crowd from behind takes the crowbar away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Becky tries to get Bailey to hit Lyra with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And she doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She's, you know, she's kind of struggling with it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But she doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Becky and Bailey get into this brawl and Bailey scream and you took everything from me at Becky as she's pounding on her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, going back to the injury angle from Mania.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Bailey misses a knee and Becky goes to set up a table and Lyra comes out of nowhere with this leg drop that sends Becky through the table on the outside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they get back in the ring and then Bailey accidentally hits Lyra and then Becky hits the manhandle slam and pins Lyra at twenty five minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot happening in this match, unfortunate in the middle there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Outside of that, it was a really good match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure about this finish though, because I guess that story now is going to be, you know, Bailey and Becky, feuding over a midcard title in the women's division.
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[SPEAKER_02]: When you could have had Becky drop the title, but Lyra and still have done the same feud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really know what this does for Lyra Velcuria.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is pretty questionable to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse, you can jump in here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What were your thoughts on the finish?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's fair.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny enough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually went with Becky Lynch in my predictions, but the idea didn't know there was stipulation that Lyra was unable to challenge for the I.C.
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[SPEAKER_00]: title after this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, because I was like, this is a good way to kind of get her elevated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the world title picture, maybe by the end of the year, early next year, maybe as a Royal Rumble contender.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's a definite future with her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's, she's done a really good job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's two of great chemistry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I felt they could have kept this going, but yeah, you're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would have been better off for Lyra to win just with that stipulation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it doesn't make any sense for the Becky Bailey feud to be over a title unless it's the world title and it's obvious that they don't need the world title because there's a lot going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of women that are a little more interesting right now than Becky Lynch and Bailey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a four to four and a half star match in there, but there was just too many of the oopsies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It went way too long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The stuff with Bailey seemed unnecessary.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know she's got the stuff with Becky, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's another way to do that, the outcome, like you just said, is questionable, you know, not even just like with the zip tie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was the moment where Lyra sent Becky into the barricade and sent her into a cameraman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where is Becky selling this collision?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the cameraman just casually walks off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, there was just so much stuff in this match that kind of broke the illusion of professional wrestling to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: make it live longer than just this moment, which is unfortunate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of good stuff in here and it just got ruined.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of ruined.
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[SPEAKER_03]: How bone it all?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, before that, the crowd absolutely ruined Russell Wilson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They showed Russell Wilson in the crowd.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They crowd food the shit out of this guy, which I thought pretty funny.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was Frank in attendance.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, he wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But then we get to the US title cage match, which went about thirteen minutes, Solosa Coa defending against Jacob Fatu.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I said when Jacob dropped the title of solo, I didn't like it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Despite the shenanigans, I felt Fatu should never be losing to solo Sikawa.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, solo is really tight cast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's this guy that just can't get it done now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't buy him as the leader of the new bloodline.
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[SPEAKER_02]: solidly amid Carter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jacob Fattu should be a guy in the main event like in a year or two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If not sooner.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is star material all over him and to beat him a second time spoiler he lost here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't get it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is not doing anything for him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He needs to move out of this feud.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I said it when he won the US title.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He should be a dominant champion until he gets a world title shot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She should be destroying everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like the guy, you guys know it, but Goldberg is basically the plan that they should be going with with Fatu.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He should not lose, and he certainly shouldn't lose twice to solo Sakawa.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't even have any notes on this match, just where I stop taking notes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a couple of cool spots, but you know, overall bunch of interference from the bloodline on the outside.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They did this finish where like they used the cage door.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and that it was supposed to be that like the cage door took out Jacob, but like Fatu, but it hit solo too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then solo just like falls out the door to win the match.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a weak, weak finish.
58:19.875 --> 58:21.856
[SPEAKER_02]: Did not like the match really hardly at all.
58:22.637 --> 58:23.277
[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead Justin.
58:24.538 --> 58:25.519
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a piece of shit.
58:25.639 --> 58:26.179
[SPEAKER_01]: I hated it.
58:27.080 --> 58:33.203
[SPEAKER_01]: This is truly where the night just took a severe downward turn.
58:34.965 --> 58:36.566
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I said it in twenty fifteen.
58:37.445 --> 58:48.900
[SPEAKER_01]: that Roman Reigns should be treated like a nineteen eighty eight ultimate warrior with the big intercontinental title win over hockey talk, you know, you fought to you, man, right?
58:51.056 --> 58:52.857
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what did I use that.
58:52.877 --> 58:54.098
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no, I'm getting there.
58:54.118 --> 58:54.498
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting there.
58:54.538 --> 58:56.540
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I said in twenty and twenty fifteen.
58:56.720 --> 58:58.221
[SPEAKER_01]: They should have treated Roman Reigns.
58:58.361 --> 58:58.741
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
58:58.881 --> 59:01.403
[SPEAKER_01]: I got like they did warrior in nineteen eighty eight.
59:01.503 --> 59:07.346
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how they should be treating Jacob Fattu this year as this monster who just comes out.
59:08.027 --> 59:15.131
[SPEAKER_01]: Rex people and that's what gets him over with the fans because that is what got the fans into Jacob Fattu.
59:15.672 --> 59:20.615
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how they could have made Roman Reigns a baby face in twenty fifteen, but they completely fucked that up.
59:21.475 --> 59:23.476
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're completely fucking this up now.
59:23.616 --> 59:28.718
[SPEAKER_01]: Although I think Jacob Fattu is far too talented to be hurt by this one shitty match.
59:30.438 --> 59:33.139
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't like he's lost multiple times down to solo.
59:33.459 --> 59:36.500
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, yeah, I don't like it at all.
59:36.540 --> 59:37.421
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't like Fattu.
59:37.561 --> 59:39.421
[SPEAKER_02]: He had a moon salt, which was crazy.
59:40.482 --> 59:41.922
[SPEAKER_02]: That looked really good, obviously.
59:42.122 --> 59:43.063
[SPEAKER_02]: That's his finish.
59:45.300 --> 59:56.269
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, he's getting, you know, all this interference from the faction and then like outcomes, uh, Jimmy Uso, like, oh, this is gonna make a difference.
59:56.349 --> 01:00:07.057
[SPEAKER_02]: Jimmy Uso, here we go, you know, like if it was Roman or something that would have been cool, but yeah, Jimmy Uso comes out to try to even the odds and he ends up getting taken out by Talatanga, um,
01:00:07.740 --> 01:00:12.963
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they got the stipulation where you can win by pinfall or you can escape the cage.
01:00:13.023 --> 01:00:18.466
[SPEAKER_02]: And Fatu is like trying to get the cage door locked so Solo can't try to get out of the cage anymore.
01:00:19.026 --> 01:00:22.488
[SPEAKER_02]: But he turns around and gets the Samoan spike from Solo.
01:00:22.548 --> 01:00:23.369
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a two count.
01:00:24.450 --> 01:00:31.874
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Jacob's going up the turn buckles and then, you know, the new bloodline out there, they're climbing the ring, climbing up the cage.
01:00:32.994 --> 01:00:37.277
[SPEAKER_02]: And you get a Tonga handcuffing Jacob to the top of the cage.
01:00:38.206 --> 01:00:43.691
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Jacob ends up breaking the handcuffs as Solo's trying to escape the cage.
01:00:43.711 --> 01:00:49.937
[SPEAKER_02]: And he runs over there and he jumps out of him and they're kind of like tussling as Solo was trying to get out of the cage.
01:00:50.938 --> 01:00:57.524
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you end up getting Tonga, like I said, kicking the door into Jacob's face, which drives him back.
01:00:57.564 --> 01:01:04.190
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Sokoa, who also seemingly got hit by the cage door falls to the floor and he retains.
01:01:04.250 --> 01:01:04.470
[SPEAKER_02]: And then
01:01:05.382 --> 01:01:06.083
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
01:01:06.243 --> 01:01:08.665
[SPEAKER_02]: Afterwards, solo tells the J.C.
01:01:08.705 --> 01:01:15.491
[SPEAKER_02]: Matteo, Jeff Cobb, you don't get Fattu, but Uso comes in and he super kicks J.C.
01:01:15.531 --> 01:01:16.211
[SPEAKER_02]: Matteo boy.
01:01:16.712 --> 01:01:19.674
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff Cobb's stock has really gone up and he's joined this couple.
01:01:19.694 --> 01:01:21.315
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just a total freaking nerd.
01:01:22.016 --> 01:01:23.137
[SPEAKER_02]: He gets super kicked.
01:01:23.778 --> 01:01:33.246
[SPEAKER_02]: He's thrown into the cage and then Fattu, like I mentioned, he hits the moon salt from the top of the cage on the Tonga and Matteo and yeah, that's how it goes off.
01:01:33.326 --> 01:01:33.526
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
01:01:33.927 --> 01:01:37.948
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, bad-booking didn't care for this at all, you know, it's whatever.
01:01:38.728 --> 01:01:41.188
[SPEAKER_02]: But the Solosacoa still the US champion.
01:01:41.988 --> 01:01:46.649
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it didn't really show how Jacob thought to broke the hand.
01:01:46.669 --> 01:01:48.329
[SPEAKER_00]: He just, I understand.
01:01:48.369 --> 01:01:49.390
[SPEAKER_02]: He just like pulled it apart.
01:01:50.290 --> 01:01:53.590
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is, I saw Ryan Huffen make this point in the Facebook group.
01:01:54.351 --> 01:01:56.071
[SPEAKER_02]: Why are you doing that after zip ties?
01:01:56.651 --> 01:01:58.831
[SPEAKER_02]: We're such a big point in the women's match.
01:01:58.851 --> 01:01:59.992
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like the same concept.
01:02:00.412 --> 01:02:01.132
[SPEAKER_02]: I grew them on that.
01:02:01.192 --> 01:02:02.392
[SPEAKER_02]: That was questionable too.
01:02:03.253 --> 01:02:05.334
[SPEAKER_02]: and I was just like the incredible Hulk or something like that.
01:02:05.675 --> 01:02:10.578
[SPEAKER_00]: Michael Cole making a point I was just trying to save face with Solosakoa.
01:02:10.938 --> 01:02:15.141
[SPEAKER_00]: He has not been pinned since the first Netflix rock in Roman Reigns.
01:02:15.701 --> 01:02:18.603
[SPEAKER_00]: I go, yeah, because he said three singles matches and two no contest.
01:02:18.663 --> 01:02:19.604
[SPEAKER_00]: You fucked hard.
01:02:20.665 --> 01:02:21.545
[SPEAKER_00]: Good grief.
01:02:22.166 --> 01:02:23.967
[SPEAKER_00]: And those matches, Jimmy Uso.
01:02:24.247 --> 01:02:24.748
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
01:02:25.128 --> 01:02:29.791
[SPEAKER_00]: Jacob fought to you, he cheated and then he pinned Ray Phoenix in the triple threat to get to
01:02:31.488 --> 01:02:32.709
[SPEAKER_00]: to get to the money in the bank.
01:02:32.729 --> 01:02:34.932
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and a couple of no contest.
01:02:34.952 --> 01:02:37.775
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, although cannot be rescued no matter how hard they try.
01:02:37.795 --> 01:02:41.318
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, he's just it doesn't have it.
01:02:41.439 --> 01:02:41.919
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
01:02:42.059 --> 01:02:44.662
[SPEAKER_02]: I can he can be a fine midcard guy, but like to
01:02:45.511 --> 01:02:50.854
[SPEAKER_02]: to have him going over on a guy who clearly could be a main event talent, I just, I don't care for.
01:02:51.034 --> 01:02:56.737
[SPEAKER_02]: One time is one thing, a second time, it's shenanigans, but I mean, still the optics of him losing again.
01:02:57.698 --> 01:03:00.219
[SPEAKER_02]: In their minds, it's always gonna overcome the numbers eventually.
01:03:00.259 --> 01:03:02.261
[SPEAKER_02]: And he'll get the tie, I just don't like that.
01:03:02.361 --> 01:03:03.621
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not how I would be doing this.
01:03:04.042 --> 01:03:11.246
[SPEAKER_00]: I did enjoy Jacob Fattu when he did lock the cage back, he looked at the reft goes, oh, gas, no goddamn brakes.
01:03:12.747 --> 01:03:12.967
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:03:14.694 --> 01:03:22.559
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, we have one more match to talk about, and I'm going to be done you guys, because I think I've podcasted somewhere between three and four hours today, running on fumes at this point.
01:03:22.619 --> 01:03:26.121
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I lost when he's doing the square circle gazette episodes.
01:03:26.781 --> 01:03:26.981
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:03:27.362 --> 01:03:27.662
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:03:29.223 --> 01:03:31.244
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, I see title match.
01:03:31.304 --> 01:03:37.548
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we are Dominic Mysterio, the men's I see title, defending against AJ Styles.
01:03:39.232 --> 01:03:42.695
[SPEAKER_02]: AJ comes out, basically doing an Eddie Guerrero tribute.
01:03:42.795 --> 01:03:45.157
[SPEAKER_02]: He comes out in a low rider.
01:03:47.138 --> 01:03:58.527
[SPEAKER_02]: He comes to the ring and he's wearing like basically a replica of the tights that Eddie wore in his match with Ray at Summer Slamo five when Dominic and his custody were up for grabs in that ladder match.
01:03:58.987 --> 01:04:00.328
[SPEAKER_02]: Try to get in the head of Dominic.
01:04:01.109 --> 01:04:04.752
[SPEAKER_02]: As the match is getting underway, Jesse, you alluded to this earlier.
01:04:05.312 --> 01:04:06.013
[SPEAKER_02]: Michael Cole,
01:04:06.773 --> 01:04:09.895
[SPEAKER_02]: is talking about the history of the icy title at Summerslam.
01:04:09.915 --> 01:04:14.597
[SPEAKER_02]: He says there's been some great battles with the icy title over the years at Summerslam.
01:04:14.637 --> 01:04:17.338
[SPEAKER_02]: Go back to the ultimate warrior at the first Summerslam.
01:04:18.279 --> 01:04:19.159
[SPEAKER_02]: Great battles.
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:21.000
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a thirty second match.
01:04:21.220 --> 01:04:22.621
[SPEAKER_02]: He destroyed the ultimate.
01:04:22.821 --> 01:04:23.662
[SPEAKER_02]: He destroyed hockey.
01:04:23.682 --> 01:04:24.842
[SPEAKER_02]: He taught me a great battle.
01:04:24.862 --> 01:04:25.382
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you talk about?
01:04:25.663 --> 01:04:30.405
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he says Steve Austin went in the icy title in nineteen ninety seven.
01:04:31.562 --> 01:04:36.326
[SPEAKER_02]: your great battle where he broke his neck and they had a horrible finish.
01:04:37.627 --> 01:04:39.668
[SPEAKER_02]: You were worked for the company at the time, Michael.
01:04:40.269 --> 01:04:41.730
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, it's terrible.
01:04:42.210 --> 01:04:44.132
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder what Michael Cole is thinking at this point.
01:04:44.812 --> 01:04:46.774
[SPEAKER_02]: I did like the throwbacks to the eddy stuff.
01:04:46.854 --> 01:04:48.055
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that that was creative.
01:04:48.575 --> 01:04:50.657
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the match was a lot of throwbacks.
01:04:50.757 --> 01:04:52.718
[SPEAKER_02]: I like eddy spots overall.
01:04:53.099 --> 01:04:53.319
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:04:53.699 --> 01:04:56.681
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't like a great match, but it was this was fairly entertaining.
01:04:56.942 --> 01:04:58.563
[SPEAKER_02]: I liked it more than the US title match.
01:04:58.583 --> 01:04:59.203
[SPEAKER_02]: That's for sure.
01:04:59.544 --> 01:04:59.844
[SPEAKER_02]: You just
01:05:00.324 --> 01:05:06.390
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it felt like a breath of fresh air after all the stipulations of the previous matches.
01:05:07.051 --> 01:05:10.534
[SPEAKER_01]: And then just like almost every match on this card, it was snake bit by
01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:18.946
[SPEAKER_01]: the finish were like, it was so obvious that AJ was intentionally trying to pry this boot off of his foot.
01:05:18.986 --> 01:05:22.930
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they showed it in the replay where Dom unzipped it earlier.
01:05:23.070 --> 01:05:30.055
[SPEAKER_01]: We had seen that, you know, before it actually happened, but it was just, yeah, I mean, I'm curious.
01:05:30.116 --> 01:05:33.999
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to go back to WrestleMania twenty because it in my memory,
01:05:34.933 --> 01:05:40.678
[SPEAKER_01]: the way Angle pulls the boot off is so flawless and truly looks like Eddie got one on him.
01:05:40.838 --> 01:05:45.542
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas this was like, this is just AJ desperately trying to get that boot off of Dom.
01:05:46.043 --> 01:05:46.283
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:05:46.984 --> 01:05:48.385
[SPEAKER_00]: You nailed that part exactly.
01:05:48.485 --> 01:05:56.512
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the the chair homage was was great with the smashing with AJ and then rose it to Dom and then Dom puts it around his neck.
01:05:56.532 --> 01:05:57.413
[SPEAKER_00]: They both laid down.
01:05:57.593 --> 01:05:59.554
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was good comedic gold.
01:06:00.015 --> 01:06:01.816
[SPEAKER_00]: Love me some Eddie Guerrero tributes and
01:06:02.657 --> 01:06:05.078
[SPEAKER_00]: The match is a whole like you said as a breath of fresh air.
01:06:05.098 --> 01:06:06.199
[SPEAKER_00]: It was fine.
01:06:06.599 --> 01:06:08.600
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like in the middle.
01:06:08.620 --> 01:06:17.824
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say like the right person went over and Dom now gets to try to get some triple a triple a a make a gold in a couple of weeks.
01:06:19.465 --> 01:06:20.905
[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting about there.
01:06:21.386 --> 01:06:26.088
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they showed some highlights of him appearing for AAA, which was when we got a great response from the crowd.
01:06:27.215 --> 01:06:28.556
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, that's what you're talking about.
01:06:28.756 --> 01:06:39.464
[SPEAKER_02]: So Dom had removed a turn buckle pad and then the referee goes over there and he's like taken forever to try to turn buckle pad back on and tie it and behind his back.
01:06:40.885 --> 01:06:45.388
[SPEAKER_02]: Dom throws styles of chair and hits the ground like Eddie used to do.
01:06:45.829 --> 01:06:48.871
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's in styles, his hands and the styles like, oh, what am I going to do with it?
01:06:48.891 --> 01:06:52.854
[SPEAKER_02]: He ends up putting the chair around his own neck and then he falls to the ground and both guys are out.
01:06:53.374 --> 01:06:55.416
[SPEAKER_02]: And the ref comes over and they're like, no, he did it.
01:06:55.496 --> 01:06:56.137
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he did it.
01:06:56.197 --> 01:06:57.138
[SPEAKER_02]: That was funny.
01:06:58.299 --> 01:06:59.961
[SPEAKER_02]: And then yeah, Styles is working the leg.
01:07:00.001 --> 01:07:05.948
[SPEAKER_02]: He's obviously setting up the calf crusher and then, you know, he pulls off that boot in the submission.
01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:32.148
[SPEAKER_02]: which causes a collision with the referee and that that has Mysterio then hitting styles with the boot that came off and then he goes up top with one boot on and one sock and he hits the frog splash off the top to get the win and they show the replay after the match close upward bomb is unzipping the boot before all of this and they're all in commentary like oh he set that up just like Eddie would have done look look how much you know he thought this out or whatever
01:07:33.008 --> 01:07:36.990
[SPEAKER_02]: strategy and whatever it was it was clever, but yeah, the execution wasn't great.
01:07:37.990 --> 01:07:41.151
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but you know, it was it was a buffer match before the main event.
01:07:41.311 --> 01:07:43.732
[SPEAKER_02]: So for that, it pretty much did.
01:07:43.772 --> 01:07:44.592
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's job.
01:07:44.612 --> 01:07:45.773
[SPEAKER_02]: The fans were entertained.
01:07:45.813 --> 01:07:46.973
[SPEAKER_02]: It was it was a decent match.
01:07:47.193 --> 01:07:49.714
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's getting positive crowd responses now too.
01:07:49.774 --> 01:07:57.097
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still wondering like when they're going to pull the trigger on him turning face because this whole judgment day thing is just getting overdrawn.
01:07:57.477 --> 01:07:57.677
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:07:59.986 --> 01:08:01.226
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the whole show.
01:08:01.306 --> 01:08:03.927
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I ever asked you guys what you're great for the night was.
01:08:04.728 --> 01:08:09.169
[SPEAKER_02]: A through F. Give me your A through F grade for night two of summer slam Justin.
01:08:12.470 --> 01:08:24.794
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I probably would have maybe said a C C plus, but with the sex traffic, alleged sex driver coming out at the end, I dropped an entire letter grade.
01:08:25.395 --> 01:08:26.675
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't D plus.
01:08:28.003 --> 01:08:28.604
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Jesse.
01:08:29.405 --> 01:08:41.921
[SPEAKER_00]: Before Lesner came out, I had this as a beam minus just on the strength of the first two matches and let's say three quarters of the main event and then yes, Lesner came out and I would go between a C plus and a C.
01:08:44.017 --> 01:08:45.178
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of where I'm at.
01:08:45.218 --> 01:08:52.483
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll give it a C plus maybe C, C is C plus you're right, right in there probably because I think like the early stuff was pretty good.
01:08:52.744 --> 01:08:56.486
[SPEAKER_02]: That that women's match was really good stuff, but yeah, I do.
01:08:56.586 --> 01:08:58.268
[SPEAKER_02]: I can not go on the B level for the show.
01:08:59.268 --> 01:09:01.870
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that really hurts me is that you can see.
01:09:04.698 --> 01:09:23.987
[SPEAKER_01]: the outline of this being a great show if they just move some shit around you know if they had just tweaked the storytelling coming in just a little bit if they had not had fucking Brock Lesnar show up in the end that there was a great show here in trips just fucked it up
01:09:27.072 --> 01:09:28.893
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like what they did with Wrestlemania.
01:09:28.933 --> 01:09:37.619
[SPEAKER_00]: I felt if you had had Wrestlemania's second night undercard with Wrestlemania with night ones main event, you got an A show right there.
01:09:37.679 --> 01:09:39.880
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the best show that they've done all year.
01:09:40.241 --> 01:09:51.948
[SPEAKER_00]: Good on the same thing here with like Gunther and Punk and then thrown the women's match and the latter match and thrown some stuff in there and you could have had an easy either high a low end A or a high end B for summer slam.
01:09:53.556 --> 01:09:58.585
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, you combine the best things from both shows and don't have Brock Lesnar would have been a lot better.
01:09:58.926 --> 01:10:02.072
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was at like a B plus for night one.
01:10:02.152 --> 01:10:04.837
[SPEAKER_02]: This was definitely a level below that I think so.
01:10:05.993 --> 01:10:07.814
[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, we've done a lot of content this weekend.
01:10:07.914 --> 01:10:08.995
[SPEAKER_02]: Two podcasts today.
01:10:09.055 --> 01:10:15.038
[SPEAKER_02]: If you missed our night one review, which is a lot more positive, you can go listen to that on your podcast feeds or right here on YouTube.
01:10:15.098 --> 01:10:22.282
[SPEAKER_02]: After we get off the air, Jesse put out a TRN unplugged yesterday morning for our Patreon supporters.
01:10:22.462 --> 01:10:25.084
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01:10:25.484 --> 01:10:30.967
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a two-hour look back at the In nineteen, eighty-six great American Bass Show in Charlotte.
01:10:31.367 --> 01:10:35.590
[SPEAKER_02]: Rich had Ricky Morton, Rick Flair, and a cage match in the main event, which is an awesome, awesome match.
01:10:35.671 --> 01:10:41.775
[SPEAKER_02]: Totally blanched in a tape fist match, which is star making performance out of him in the way he sold during that match.
01:10:42.876 --> 01:10:45.438
[SPEAKER_02]: Not that he wasn't already a star, but he really stood out in that match.
01:10:46.219 --> 01:10:47.300
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a lot of fun with that.
01:10:47.360 --> 01:10:53.064
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01:10:53.124 --> 01:10:56.427
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01:11:08.014 --> 01:11:14.639
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, half of our content, if not more, is going up in these bonus shows for Patreon and the YouTube channel membership.
01:11:14.919 --> 01:11:17.861
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01:11:18.122 --> 01:11:19.443
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01:11:21.604 --> 01:11:22.625
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01:11:29.026 --> 01:11:31.427
[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate you guys for joining me tonight, staying up late.
01:11:31.848 --> 01:11:33.609
[SPEAKER_02]: Justin, good to get you on the show.
01:11:34.289 --> 01:11:35.750
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm buzzing right now.
01:11:35.970 --> 01:11:37.791
[SPEAKER_01]: If you guys want to talk some more, let's go.
01:11:39.032 --> 01:11:40.353
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to give my vocal cords rest.
01:11:41.054 --> 01:11:43.695
[SPEAKER_00]: But you might give it a giant element to this night, Justin.
01:11:43.795 --> 01:11:44.816
[SPEAKER_00]: It was much needed.
01:11:44.856 --> 01:11:47.998
[SPEAKER_00]: We were like, what's going to happen if there's actually a positive WWE show?
01:11:48.018 --> 01:11:49.519
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Brock Lesnar screwed everything.
01:11:49.539 --> 01:11:49.639
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:11:51.293 --> 01:11:51.553
[SPEAKER_01]: go ahead.
01:11:51.954 --> 01:11:54.115
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I told Ryan before we got on the show.
01:11:54.135 --> 01:12:02.682
[SPEAKER_01]: I think before you hopped on, I was like, yeah, I was just like, I got damn am I going to be happy about this and then they proved me wrong.
01:12:04.063 --> 01:12:05.785
[SPEAKER_02]: Justin, did you watch punk on there yet?
01:12:06.265 --> 01:12:06.525
[SPEAKER_02]: I did.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?
01:12:08.727 --> 01:12:09.047
[SPEAKER_02]: It was good.
01:12:10.749 --> 01:12:12.530
[SPEAKER_02]: Not super high on it.
01:12:12.810 --> 01:12:13.211
[SPEAKER_01]: It was good.
01:12:13.751 --> 01:12:13.811
[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna watch it again.
01:12:18.808 --> 01:12:21.270
[SPEAKER_01]: I spent last night.
01:12:21.330 --> 01:12:22.591
[SPEAKER_01]: My brother-in-law was in town.
01:12:22.931 --> 01:12:24.112
[SPEAKER_01]: I had my neighbors come over.
01:12:24.172 --> 01:12:26.393
[SPEAKER_01]: We sat around a fire, drinking beers.
01:12:27.034 --> 01:12:29.556
[SPEAKER_01]: And once everybody went to bed, I fired it up.
01:12:30.156 --> 01:12:32.498
[SPEAKER_01]: So I need to re-watch it.
01:12:33.218 --> 01:12:39.302
[SPEAKER_01]: I had some deer, deer, deer, deer, friends, slash brothers.
01:12:39.983 --> 01:12:42.284
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me there were some good sweating and blood in it.
01:12:43.605 --> 01:12:43.845
[SPEAKER_01]: And I...
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[SPEAKER_01]: If somebody comes out with their hair already slipped back, you know, hair wet and just that doesn't come for sweating for me.
01:12:54.834 --> 01:12:57.616
[SPEAKER_01]: So so punk was disqualified on the sweating scale.
01:12:58.636 --> 01:13:02.059
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I had some concerns that the blood was fake.
01:13:03.200 --> 01:13:05.402
[SPEAKER_01]: But once we're done with this, I'm going to rewatch it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, those chaps, though, the way the sweltering phrase, I knew you would love that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still, yes, like it is, it is easily a four star match if not better.
01:13:17.575 --> 01:13:18.957
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's easily.
01:13:20.655 --> 01:13:23.157
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it punk spent best match since he came into?
01:13:23.617 --> 01:13:25.879
[SPEAKER_02]: So we talked about that on the show this morning.
01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:30.082
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's probably his second or third best match since coming back to wrestling.
01:13:30.162 --> 01:13:33.064
[SPEAKER_02]: I said the only match these had since he came back in twenty one.
01:13:33.084 --> 01:13:37.167
[SPEAKER_02]: WWE and AEW is is the dog collar match with MJF.
01:13:37.207 --> 01:13:40.030
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's his best match he's had since he's come back to wrestling.
01:13:40.850 --> 01:13:45.994
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, some people would probably put hell in a cell with Drew right there with this one.
01:13:47.355 --> 01:13:51.038
[SPEAKER_02]: I mentioned the Eddie Kingston match at full gear that we all went to in Minneapolis.
01:13:51.078 --> 01:13:52.719
[SPEAKER_02]: That's probably in my top four.
01:13:52.739 --> 01:13:55.941
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the triple threat at many of this year I didn't call that earlier.
01:13:55.961 --> 01:13:57.422
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a really good one too.
01:13:58.623 --> 01:14:03.587
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think it's probably second or third best match since he's been back wrestling in the last four years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:14:05.734 --> 01:14:07.035
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I need to re-watch it.
01:14:07.196 --> 01:14:07.796
[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed it.
01:14:08.457 --> 01:14:10.640
[SPEAKER_01]: My expectations were a little too high.
01:14:10.700 --> 01:14:10.981
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Going into it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse and I said on the show this morning that I would like to better the second watch.
01:14:16.107 --> 01:14:18.230
[SPEAKER_02]: When I watched it the second time this morning, I liked even more.
01:14:18.491 --> 01:14:20.113
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was just a phenomenal
01:14:20.787 --> 01:14:22.188
[SPEAKER_02]: old school feeling match.
01:14:22.288 --> 01:14:27.392
[SPEAKER_02]: Gunther was great in his selling to at the finish and Gunther's the fucking best thing in WWE.
01:14:27.692 --> 01:14:29.673
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my country modifications.
01:14:29.693 --> 01:14:33.856
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a buzz on coffee this morning and that alcohol last night when I was watching it.
01:14:33.936 --> 01:14:35.097
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a little more clear headed.
01:14:35.177 --> 01:14:36.578
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought that better.
01:14:36.959 --> 01:14:37.459
[SPEAKER_00]: Second viewing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alright guys, we're gonna wrap, appreciate your support.
01:14:41.415 --> 01:14:45.958
[SPEAKER_02]: As always, Jesse will have an unplugged coming for Patreon this week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bonus show, and then we'll be back here on the main feed on YouTube, all the podcast feeds with another flagship next weekend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you can check back with us there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Appreciate everyone who tuned in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, thank you so much.
01:14:59.868 --> 01:15:00.609
[SPEAKER_02]: That was incredible.
01:15:00.969 --> 01:15:07.874
[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome to see some new faces in the chat and glad for some of you guys that were watching me on Bleacher Report, who migrated over here really good to see you all.
01:15:08.365 --> 01:15:09.246
[SPEAKER_02]: checking in tonight.
01:15:09.366 --> 01:15:13.829
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, we're seeing like Brit here, James who checked in as well.
01:15:13.869 --> 01:15:15.390
[SPEAKER_02]: He was on the BR show earlier.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Lots of lots of you people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you made this a lot of fun.
01:15:18.171 --> 01:15:19.352
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of easier to do these shows.
01:15:19.372 --> 01:15:20.833
[SPEAKER_02]: We got the act of champions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much.
01:15:24.475 --> 01:15:25.756
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's all I got.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this has been episode three, ninety two of top roganation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we will see everyone next week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Take care everybody.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Peace.