Current Top 10 WWE and AEW Wrestlers

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good morning everybody, episode 399 of Top Rope Nation, Brian Drossi, Jesse Velasquez.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here to talk all the latest the world of pro wrestling and for the first time in a long time fellas, we got a theme to go with this show and that is the top 10 current pro wrestlers in North America.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to break all that down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: later in the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're watching along with us live, we want to get you involved actually.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you'll find a link here in the broadcast description where you can actually call in your thoughts and give us your top 10 wrestlers in North America.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Check the link.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually I'll just put this in the screen right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you go to that web URL right now, you can leave us a voicemail and you can let us know your thoughts on who is the top 10 wrestlers in North American.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just enjoy it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't

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[SPEAKER_02]: When we actually talk about this and I have this graphic on the screen, I'm going to do a different layout so we can see more of you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How you doing this, Marty.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh no, cover me up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Put more graphics over me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Hopefully he wants to see this, especially this early in the day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, how you doing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Man, you got your coffee, you ready to go?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I got my coffee.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I've got my little sparkling water drink here to get hydrated for the day.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Tottenham and the 49ers are playing in about an hour and a half.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, should be a good day.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I took my son to our local comic book shop.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yesterday was a comic book day.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, he got a bunch of free comics.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I picked up Kingdom Come, which is a graphic novel I've been wanting to read for quite a while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did see that, um, advertised that they were doing that and yeah, I should have gone to that, dang it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, uh, nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cool how you doing Jesse?

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[SPEAKER_05]: doing okay just fixing my headphones.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Perfect.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Why do you want to be covered up just in the mean.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Come on now you get it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You're so humble.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, just man.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, come on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to continue to boost it throughout this show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, we're hoping to get people involved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you can leave us a chat to and let us know your thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Super chats.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, always get preference.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to make sure we read your top 10, you can send us a

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[SPEAKER_02]: those are open this morning as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We want to thank all of our beautiful lovely patrons.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate all of your support.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We did have a new sign-up recently that I forgot to call it a couple of weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's Chris Zable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Chris really appreciate you signing up and then

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[SPEAKER_02]: Our good friend, John Hope, actually upgraded to a higher tier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, John is usually in these live chats, especially when we do the morning shows over in the UK.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And John, we really appreciate your continued patronage of the show as Jesse talked about last week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was not on the show, I was in Chicago, went to the Bears game with my father.

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[SPEAKER_02]: heading back when these guys were doing the show, but I did have a chance to listen to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse did an awesome job explaining that, you know, we're doing a survey right now, seeing what our listeners want out of this show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We posted on Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you can let us know on that survey, you can find it, like I said, a multitude of places to fill that out and really appreciate all the, I don't know, like 20 to 30 people, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: have filled it out right now and it's been extremely helpful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly it's one of the reasons why we're doing a theme show is people said that you know they really like it when we do that rather than just always just going through the news and current events.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Give us a topic and you know the guys came up with this we've got our list ready hopefully we'll hear from you all as we get to that at the end of the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think to start, we are going to hit on some current big topics going on in the world of progress and then we'll get to that kind of in the second half of the show because that's how I'm good everybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, any objections.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, you guys did a great job last week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I always enjoy stepping back and like putting on the listener hat and listening to the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so interesting to do that after almost 400 episodes of this show where I've been on almost all of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a little busy here in the fall, of course, but thank you for holding down the fort.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate you both.

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[SPEAKER_05]: when Justin goes rogue, it makes the podcast that much more fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Justin doing his basketball draft.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I see you got started last week, cause that what you're referring to.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, I'm in second place right now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's early, but I'm in second place.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, very nice, very nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, current events.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll start with AWS, with AWS, AWS did announce the women's, I'll put this up on the screen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tag team tournament.

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[SPEAKER_02]: for the first ever AEW tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, they did not announce when the final they're going to be of this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we don't know if that's going to be on television or full gear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think some of that is going to have to do with how the bracket breaks out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Justin, let me just throw it to you first.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As you look at this bracket, who do you see advancing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then ultimately, maybe even winning this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's a bit of a bummer because I'm kind of as rooting for the most is Willow and Harley, but I just can't imagine them getting past Mercedes and Athena in the first round.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You think at the very least, they're going to implode at some point Mercedes and Athena that is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But you've got to think they're going to advance at least past the first round.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then I think it's going to end up being Tony and Mina winning them, you know, you know, they both just lost champi and ship, so it makes a lot of sense to put more on them or put these, you know, first time titles on them, especially with Tony being the star that she is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then, you know, I think that I could see Bane and Ford also, maybe take in the titles.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Jessie your thoughts?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Tony and Mina to me are the heavy favorites.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think the small section of the IWC, their favorites would be Anna Jay and Ty County.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I've seen that a lot over the place.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They want them to be the first AW Women's Tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think just simply for the longevity factor.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They've just they've been together forever.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Even, I mean, they obviously split off when Ty delivered a child.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But before that, I think they've just been four or five years

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it looks a little lopsided.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I would have switched a couple of them.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think I would have actually taken Megan Bain in Penelope Ford in the TJ match.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Move it over to the top left corner and move Queen Aminada, Jamie Hater, and the sisters ascend to the other side.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Just for a little bit more balance, just from what I see.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because I think Star Power Wise is gonna be Tony Mina in Mercedes and Athena.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think in Justin's camp, I'd like to see Megan Bain Penelope Ford on one side

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, we know that Mercedes is wrestling statlander at full gear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if they advance to the finals, that would make you seem like that's going to be a televised match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they do a dynamite finals or something in advance of full gear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If that's the way the bracket shakes out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I think at first glance, that seems most obvious Mercedes and Athena against Tony and Mina in the finals.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, maybe there's some kind of miscommunication between Mercedes and Athena that leads into a feud between the two of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I could see that happening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm using this tournament to kind of springboard a few there and they don't get to the finals.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I've said this ever since they announced these and I think you guys agreed at the time too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like Tony Storm and me and Shared Cower are gonna be the first champions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I, I've seen the stuff out there, like you guys said with the talk online, but I think when it comes down to your first tag team champions, they're going to go with the star power.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Tony, Tony, not being the world champion despite like clearly being the number one woman in the company.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some people would say that's a problem, you know, but you know, she had the title for a, over the last few years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's had it for a good chunk of time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like they needed to do something different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think putting the tag titles on her and mean is is definitely the way to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That would for sure be my pick right now.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you're getting zero arguments for me there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think they did it with the trio's titles.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Kenny Omega and the Young Bucks.

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[SPEAKER_05]: an already forgot who the first oh actually they didn't do it with the world tag team titles they put them on a c u to begin everything but Chris Jericho was the first a w world champion Cody Rhodes is t and t uh they threw it on j cardgill for the tbs so mean that was just more of a we're gonna see if she can do this and at the time we thought it was a good decision uh let's go one

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure it was packed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have to look that up to.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think it was packed.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So your right star powers where you wanted to start and Tony Storm is the arguably the largest star right now or the brightest in the company, at least in the top two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was it was definitely packed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Justin to step away for a second.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So while he's doing that, well, now he's back, but I'm just going to throw this in anyways as I sip from my coffee.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to throw this out at the top of the show and I forgot to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So let me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to share my screen here in a second because I told the guys that I released something new this morning and I want to show them because I don't think they've even seen it yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and I was as I was sipping for my coffee and made me think of it as you're about to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you can find the link to this in the broadcast description as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But boys, I release some new merch this morning on our store.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can also find us at topropenation.com if you'd like, but check it out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Coffee drinking pro wrestling guys.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah, I couldn't believe that I'd never done that before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said they're drinking my coffee this morning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually was wearing our beer drinking pro wrestling guys t-shirt earlier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, why the hell did I never make a coffee drinking pro wrestling guy?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're always doing these morning shows drinking coffee.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How did that not happen?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's available in multiple colors, but there you go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The espresso color made the most sense to feature.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I also got the mug too as you can see on the left.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I wanted to shout that out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that there is a new merch drop on our store.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a while since I've released something new.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's also that hat there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I released we had that hat before, but the branded hat it was on was sold out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just chose a different blank hat stitched the logo on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a white top donation logo hat also available.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a flex fit hat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay for 26 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, indeed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a sample of that on order right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: some kind of waiting for that to come in before I push this in the group because I want to make sure that the stitching on it looks good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I will let people know I'll post a photo of it in our Facebook group.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Probably social too when it comes in, but I'm pretty excited about that one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see how the stitching the embroidery turns out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We all have coffee in our milk this morning.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I imagine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cup number two here for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be drinking out of that mug here

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's go to Saturday night's main event next Saturday night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's only going to be on peacock, not NBC proper.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're going to have that peacock service.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to watch WWE Saturday night's main event three matches announced for that show right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think on the side of the world heavyweight championship, which obviously Seth Rollins now injured.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Going to be out several months with that shoulder injury.

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[SPEAKER_02]: taken on Juso for the World Heavyweight Championship.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've got Cody Rhodes defending the WWE undisputed championship against Drew McIntyre and Tiffany Stratten defending the WWE women's title against Jade Cargill who had the heel turn the other night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse, how are you feeling about Saturday night's main event?

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[SPEAKER_05]: If they had any balls, they would pull the trigger

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's the way that real two and a half.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's no.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Drew McIntyre, again, the niche portion of this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm seeing a lot of online discoursing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Why hasn't Drew Beaton Cody?

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, there've been very predictable with world title changes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's either been in a WrestleMania or a Summerslam in most cases for the last few years.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I think you have to change it up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Here's the problem that I see though.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You mentioned peacock, they just signed this ESPN PLE exclusive deal.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So are they going to do this on an app on a free app for most folks?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Odds are not looking that good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I do see one of those titles changing hands, this map and the SmackDown side.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then I guess my last thought would be,

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's very lazy to have Jay Uso get pinned by CM Punk in that fatal four way and then have him come back and win that battle royal.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I can kind of understand why

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[SPEAKER_05]: you don't have brown breaker in this instance, maybe you want to build this a little bit longer and give him, I think, what could be a signature moment for his career, but you almost want to strike while the irons hot at some point in time too, especially since he just laid out the in K-Fab terms, the World Heavyweight Champion Seth Rollins, who's now out for a few months.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, reportedly breakers scheduled to get the title in the next few months, but they didn't want to do it, you know, on a show that's only on streaming, they want more people to see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, or a Saturday night's main event, sorry, that's only on Peacock that a lot of people are probably going to miss out on because it's not your standard PLE situation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not an ESPN, obviously, with the PLE's now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, that makes them just super easy to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Boy, that's a whole different topic on ESPN reportedly been.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Although there's been some pushback on that story, but you know, the first story was that they're kind of disappointed on how many subscribers were coming over and that whole thing is a huge cluster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, um, not getting the agreements in place with the cable companies like they promised early on, you know, YouTube TV support, that's better, huge, huge issue.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sailing the high seas for all those shows right now, personally.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, you're asking a percentage of your audience to spend an extra 30 bucks a month in this case, especially where we're at economically who wants to do that right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: these streaming prices are completely out of control.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was talking my wife last night because Justin, we were watching the paper, which is just a we just finished season one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fun show really like it on solid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'll tell my wife, you know, when the WWE library is off-peak, I'm probably canceling this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll activate it when the next season the paper comes out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, maybe for basketball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll probably downgrade my tier because I got the the tier that is no ads because I just I hate since we're the ads and I'm watching classic stuff for our Patreon shows and that was $10 a couple of years ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's 18 now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're the double the price.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the $5 here's 10 now, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: The ads version.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They double almost double the prices.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's like every server's gonna HBO went up recently.

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[SPEAKER_02]: YouTube TV's gone up like crazy since I first got it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't justify paying that for that ESPN app.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna travel to Canada or London on Netflix every time there's a PLI and that's why I'm gonna watch it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: More cost-effective.

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[SPEAKER_05]: For support North America A, yeah, go to Canada.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of streaming, you guys, we talked about this in our text thread and you guys wanted me to maybe bring it up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just I think Justin you thrown out with the WBD stuff and what's happening there with the sale There's a lot happening here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did I miss something in the chat you did And got his hair back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Jesse last week had my name tag.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did see that My hair is magically grown back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, he's right lighter complexed to

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, there's a lot of moving pieces with this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't say I can kind of go off of what Dave had in the observer about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, WBD is like looking at splitting the companies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They sent out this pressure release about a week ago, a week ago, last Tuesday, the 21st.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and noted, you know, they're putting the company up for sale and they want to advance, they basically are looking at separating the two companies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Warner Brothers would be one entity, which would be comprised of the movies and the streaming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they're going to have discovery global, which are the cable TV stations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, they're already receiving interest from lots of different parties.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're scheduled to separate the companies sometime in mid-2026.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But they're also listen to offers from people who would, you know, we'd include both ends of the company or individual sales based on the split that they're looking at.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so, I mean, there's been lots of different companies interested, paramount skydance, Netflix, Comcast, Amazon is now in the bidding for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really hard to forecast where this is going, you know, nobody really knows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody really knows what this is going to mean for AEW, long-term either.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, right now, there's a lot of different figures out there and what could possibly, what this company could go for, the two different entities could go for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: there's some thought that Comcast is not going to be able to win the bidding war because of who the president is right now and him not liking Comcast because they own MSNBC is bunch of just ridiculous shit happening in this country.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just leave that at that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You wouldn't want the government to influence how this goes, but it might.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, well,

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[SPEAKER_02]: we'll see what happened.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What happens?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really have too many specifics.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's kind of talking about it in the background, but it's all speculation right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have no idea where this happened.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I guess the concern is, do you think there's any chance that this could

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[SPEAKER_04]: almost make a W go away.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If the wrong people buys Warner Brothers and there isn't another buyer out there for AW.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You'd think it for some reason paramount buys Warner Brothers, obviously they already have A.

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[SPEAKER_04]: an agreement with TKO on the UFC side and that would really just kind of leave you know Amazon and Apple as the big companies that could possibly put a W on their quote unquote streaming or television.

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[SPEAKER_04]: you know, I don't know how to your point Ryan.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's all kind of speculation.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't know how this stuff works, especially with the contracts.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, if somebody buys out Warner Brothers, is that just completely negate the, you know, the agreement that AW has with Warner Brothers, a lot up in the air, but it is, you know, it's a little scary as someone who prefers options with professional wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know exactly what the what the stakes are in AWS ownership, you know, how much WBD could own if anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, obviously, the con family owns the primary interest in the company.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know that it would make it go away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that they have numbers as far as like paper view numbers, live event numbers, obviously, which are improving and then the TV numbers, which would.

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[SPEAKER_02]: potentially make them appealing to other entities if they were to somehow get cut.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now they do have these contracts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the interesting thing about the contracts is they have a deal with HBO Max.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and then they also have the deal of TBS and TNT.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're talking about the cable side, but also the streaming side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the way that the sale goes is going to depend on if one company buys both streaming and cable or if it's separate between the companies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now apparently, according to Dave, Paramount Skydance is believed to be interested in both sides, movies and streaming and the TV stations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if they went out, they would be on both sides of the coin, but we don't really know, I'll just read straight from the observer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Meltzerites, essentially the biggest story regarding the future of AEW will change in many different ways over the next year or two, but there are so many variables regarding who will buy, what will they buy, who will they put in charge, and how will AEW be doing on HBO Max and TVST and TVT to have a clue as to what this means for AEW today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, anything can happen in 2027, and a lot will happen before 2027.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, it's really, really up in the air.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of agree with what Carl said in the chat here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If AW you're putting on a good product, then they will find a home and my, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's gonna make them go away, but it might impact, you know, wear it airs and how it airs for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, to Tim's point,

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[SPEAKER_02]: company's merging is terrible to have less choice in the marketplace is always going to be really, really bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see what happens there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think somebody made a point that like the four richest folks right now own basically everything.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So when it comes to all of this emerging, yeah, the options are becoming limited and it's going to hurt these products

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[SPEAKER_02]: So outside of that, was there something in dues, why is we're gonna hit on before you get to the main topic that I haven't brought up?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Trying to think that was the big one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just kind of scrolling through my notes, but I think I mostly hit everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Senator Nights made of a tag tournament for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One brother's discovery, I think we're good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So let me put this graphic on this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If anything comes to me, I'll throw it in at the end of the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's put this graphic on the screen because we are going to talk about, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who we think are the current top 10 North American wrestlers?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now this can be comprised of men, this can be comprised of women, you can mix them both, you mixing the companies obviously, as we talk about where we think things stand right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so you see the URL here on the screen, the links in the video description here on YouTube if you're with us live, we'd love to get you guys involved.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you can record this right on your phone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you go to the URL, you can do it on your computer, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You got 90 seconds to leave a message and I can include those in the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you go to speakpipe.com slash top rope nation, give us your top 10.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now you might have to think about it a little while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I certainly had to think about this and then I revise my notes again this morning as to, um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: as to where I was going to rank these.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, Jesse, I think this was your idea, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You threw it out in the text our group chat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So do you want to introduce anything more about this before we get started?

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[SPEAKER_05]: I might revise this on the fly as soon as I hear some of your answers.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm being 100% honest.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think I like to use, I like to use different types of categories.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So for me,

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[SPEAKER_05]: crowd connection.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I splice in like 15, 20% k-fabe here in this instance where championships mean something, but I think a character connection is very important in this aspect.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So just kind of throwing your blend in and giving us your top 10 wrestlers in WWE and AEW.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And for this

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[SPEAKER_05]: omit what they did in Japan.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I went strictly off of what they've done in the United States Canada, Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean Justin, a struggle for you in doing this as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I believe I had four drafts of my top 10.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Kind of, you know, I'm going off the same stuff

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[SPEAKER_04]: promo and character, because I just, I don't want to dock somebody too much if, you know, if they're not the best at a promo, if they can still get across, you know, who their character is and can get across their personality and connect with the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I think we're all pretty in line with how we're looking at this for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I did not take into effect drawing power that much, because that's just something I don't really pay attention to any more as far as numbers and whatnot.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's just so hard to read that for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's fair.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, who wants to start us off?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm assuming we're gonna count

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[SPEAKER_04]: down to number one, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was something else I wanted to talk about, like how we should go about doing this, because I don't know if us going one by one is the best way to do this, because we're going to be all over the map, and then somebody's probably going to have, like someone at eight, that someone just talks about it nine, would it be better just read your full list, and you can kind of give us your thoughts as we go down it?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Or we just start with number one and then like if if you have that person lower down it's not as impactful the flag save we start at 10 and somebody's like oh that's my number one and then we're kind of even more all over the place okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm also thinking about trying to make a graphic to put up on the screen as I go so I'm very much multitasking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we need to produce her on this show.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's impressive performance.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got a tablet right now where I'm going to try to make a graphic with all of our names on it with our top 10 lists, you know, as we go down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like obviously I could do mine, but I haven't heard the list for Justin Jesse yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I could have asked you guys to send it to me to make the graphic in advance, but I didn't want to impact.

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[SPEAKER_02]: what I was going to read off on, you know, on my list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess we can go, we can make this a democratic election and we can vote.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse, how would you, this is your idea?

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[SPEAKER_02]: How do you think we should best go about it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, good call.

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[SPEAKER_05]: How about we go from 10 to six?

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[SPEAKER_05]: We read off 10 to six each.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Leave that top five empty.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then I think if, yeah, if spoke, yeah, that'll work.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Let's go 10 to six.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, once you start us off, then let's do it that way.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Ooh, this is hard.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I had to, there were four people I considered for that number 10 spot.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I took injuries into account as well, so that removed two people off specifically.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I have a tie at number 10 between two world champions of different companies.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Chris that later in AEW.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Cody Rhodes, W-W-E. Ooh, spicy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Tied for tenth, Cody has been stale.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I have to honor the fact, though, that there is still a giant crowd connection.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He is arguably the most popular, one of the most popular wrestlers in the,

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[SPEAKER_05]: number one recognized for motion in the world.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So that was my reason for that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Statelander has been on fire.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think these last few months, and I took a win last record into account as well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's something I love to do.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And other than I think Megan Bane being her Achilles heel, she's been near 100% for this over the last 10 months.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, Chris that lander here in Cody or my number 10.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Keep going.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think he just give us your 10 through six.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, no.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I will be a little bit shorter with the rest.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Number nine, Stephanie Vakir, a WWE Women's Champion on the Rosside.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She's been on fire as well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is where I'm like, I might be changing my list.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I might have this person way too low.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I have John Moxley eight.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I have number seven, Kenosuke Takeshita.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I took out his new Japan work.

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[SPEAKER_05]: For this exercise, if you throw that in there, I got him in my top five likely.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And number six, Bandito.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Wow, all right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think I should follow up because that connects to mine pretty seamlessly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I also apologize in advance, or I need made a note off air that there seems to be a noise machine going on in the background and that is me, my furnace is blasting right now, so I'm not talking, I will be on mute.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I cheated, just like Jesse, I have a tie.

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[SPEAKER_04]: at number 10, and it is to cash in Bandito.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There an argument could be made that those two are the best in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_04]: For me, I have them down there at 10, just because not great promos, not a whole lot of personality to them, basically they are, you know, just superb in-ring workers, which is why I have them at number 10.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Number 9.

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[SPEAKER_04]: just because he slightly has a little bit more personality, but he can go just the same in the ring when he's feeling like it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I have Coda.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Number eight, maybe this is low.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't feel like it because again, kind of like with the rest of them, great in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But

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[SPEAKER_04]: a little abrasive personality wise, which I also think is kind of the point, not the greatest promo, but she is one of the all-time crates, and to me, she's got to be on the list, and that is Mercedes-Mont A.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Number seven, a great combination in the ring, personality, argument can be made.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's the best in the ring, Mark Briscoe.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And number six, along the same lines, he's starting to prove himself.

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[SPEAKER_04]: with the personality in the promo, he still has a ways to go, but again, argument could be made, best in the ring, and that is Kyle Fletcher.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, give me a second, updating my list here, but just any thoughts on Justin's list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Intriguing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Intriguing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's, I'll spoil this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's only one person he mentioned that's not in my top 10.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I will do a little spoiler, you're 9 and 10, you know, Stephanie, Cody, and Stattlander, not on my list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think Jesse and I are going to have the most similar list for sure.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not surprised.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to, let's see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got a little bit of overlap and I got some new names here too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So at my number 10, I have

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[SPEAKER_02]: WWE's eoski.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As I still believe she's probably pound for pound the best women's wrestler in WWE, maybe men and women.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just felt like I needed to put her on the list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's been a world champion relatively recently as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think she's still important to the product.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she always has the crowd connection.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, go back to one of

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the crowd loves her to a draw.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, they just had the Japan tour.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She'd probably a draw there in the US.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, in middle of the pack for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's not like a big time drawing power by any means.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think just the fact of how good she is in the ring had me put her at number 10.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then number nine, I have another interview of the person here, Stephanie Vickier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She, I've talked about this on the show, how the last time I was on here two weeks ago, I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: was the time I ran to about WWE creative and how stale it is, but at the same time, the women's division specifically on Raw is the most intriguing thing to me going right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the rise of Stephanie Vickier and making things interesting in the women's division has been a big success for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, she's a good worker too, skies a better worker, but she's no slouch for sure and she's really, really popular right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I got her at number nine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And to keep this female, heavy number eight is also a woman Mercedes-Meney.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just, you know, obviously with the belt collecting gimmick that she's doing, which by the way, so on the news, $25,000 per Indian appearance is her fee right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Holy smokes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Choose.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, she won what three titles and three different companies last weekend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: on in three days, Mexico, Canada and the US, which is, I don't think anybody has ever done that before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's obviously kind of a key part to what a U.S. doing right now and, you know, behind Tony, probably the most important part of the women's division.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I got to go Mercedes

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[SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me could use the cuff button, but I'm a rookie A pros pro that Ryan Dressy Number seven maybe gonna ruffle some feathers with this one, but I also felt like I had to put them on here And this is why I modified our graphic this morning when I started thinking about drawing power and Jesse brought that up in our group chat

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[SPEAKER_02]: got to put the punkster on there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got CM Punk at number seven.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, we talked about how we feel about his decisions over the last couple of years, and what that makes us think about him just overall in his career, but the guy still works well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He had a match I was really high on with Gunther over the summer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's in the world title picture.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I still think he's probably gonna win it at some point whether that's a very nice main event or down the line.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously one of the top merch movers in WWE and definitely a draw still, so I got to put punk at number seven.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I put Kazuchka Okada at number six.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you're a patron, probably saw my star ratings last weekend for a restful dream, I love that tag team match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love what they're building between him and Takeshita to Justin's point when he wants to, he can still really go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that that that few that's going to lead up to the match between him and Takeshita, Okada Takeshita, is going to be phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm more high on Okada right now than I had been in many years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he sits just outside the, yeah, since just outside the top five for me, so that's where I'm at right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I think I actually have a graphic that's partially complete that I could put on the screen for our viewers before we go into our top four.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me see if this works.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, we're doing this live on the fly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just got to replace this graphic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Here we go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hold on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thumb.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thumb.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the thumb.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Euler.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, again, if you guys have thoughts on this, you can hit us in the voicemail would love to play those here at the end of the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, uh, here we go.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm starting to think that my revision that I did right before we got on air was a mistake.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh-oh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's our 10 through six.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe I got everybody's right on that graph.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Does that look right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Gentlemen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mine is right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I like to just a minor little overlap.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You guys both have a cure at number nine.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And me and Ryan both have Mercedes at number eight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the niggins.

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[SPEAKER_02]: as it's helpful to actually have a list now on the screen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you guys, if you're watching at least, so you can see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So again, just for the podcast listeners,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can read through it one time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse had Cody and Statlander tied at number 10.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Stephanie Vakura at number nine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Moxley at eight, to catch that seven bandito at six.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Justin had to catch that 10, Ocada at nine, Monday at eight, brisco at seven, flutcher at six.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I had Eelsky at 10, the cure at nine, Monday at eight, punk at seven, and Ocada at six.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm actually even more so than our top five, I think I'm more curious about the people that we left off and why.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know I had a couple just brutal cuts that I hated leading, you know, leaving off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're going to do that at the end, like our just missed because I've got a Google doc here where I first I just threw out everybody I would consider and then I whittle that down to like 12 and then I whittle it down again and then I read it again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've got a bunch of people that I can call out to just barely, barely missed my list.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I had 25 names on a list.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I would actually add a 26th from the chat.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I missed out on Mystico.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I would add him in there too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: When you first brought it up, I had him on my list.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But then I just, with North America to me, that was just kind of, you know, excluded CMLL and AAA, maybe that was mistake.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But, and also, I, you know, Zack Saber Jr. if we were going to count New Japan and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But, nope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's go back to this view as we, there we are, there's the

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[SPEAKER_02]: voice mail line, if you want to get involved, give us your top 10 as I said, but yeah, let's go back now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll do our top five Jesse Europe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you got?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I guess one thing I waited a lot of this towards.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think I went a little more in ring as opposed to character, and I'll get into that a little bit later.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Number five, I have Kazuchko Opata.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He is starting to do some of the best work that we've seen since

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[SPEAKER_05]: 2019.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's undefeated by the way for those who are from a singles perspective these days.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Number four, I also weighed this little higher.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, she'd be higher if she was a better promo, Mercedes, Monet, her work speaks for itself.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think she is doing a good job with her character these days as well.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So,

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[SPEAKER_05]: You could argue with some of the best work of her career as well, but Jerry remains out on that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Number three, this guy could be number one very, very soon, Kyle Fletcher, a career year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: probably the best in-ring worker right now.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you could argue, Bandito, to cash it up, I think, whatever your cup of tea is, but yeah, he's hit, I mean, he's the real deal.

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[SPEAKER_05]: When he becomes a free agent, if that happens, the bidding wars should be very high.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think the other side should be thrown in a lot of money at him.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Number two, this one's pretty slam dunk for me, Tony Storm.

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[SPEAKER_05]: easily the problem.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's still the best character in all of wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She's been world championed during this time period putting on good performances in the ring to supplement what I just said.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I'm point with her character.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Number one, I mean, he's been undefeated all year long.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He leads

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[SPEAKER_05]: character work, spot on, crowd absolutely loves him, and arguably had possibly match it the year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, he's for sure top three with John Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll get back to Moxley in the later discussion because I'm starting to feel like I underrated or overrated.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, underrated him just a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Alright, I like it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Ooh man, I'm just fascinated to see where Ryan's going to go here because I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My top five is looking interesting.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Although there are some very similar ones as Jesse there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Number five, my one and only, WWE super stars.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And someone that I'm kind of concerned with isn't even on your guys' list isn't on Jesse's, Ray Ripley.

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[SPEAKER_04]: is my number five.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I, to me, she's the, the total package when it comes to professional wrestler, you know, not exactly the best promo, but a believable one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, she's locked into the character.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She can get across to personality.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I, I just think she's the best wrestler in the WWE period.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Number four, you know, someone who I have compared to Cactus Jack,

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think the most unique in-ring wrestler, there's just nobody like him, not a great promo, but again, kind of like with Ripley, he gets a personality across, you know, you believe the character that's Darby Allen.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just think he is like special special.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It feels like an event anytime he's wrestling in the ring, um,

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[SPEAKER_04]: in kind of this this works for me number three right after Derby mocks the ace of AEW if you've been listening to the pod at all for a long time you know we were very down on the deathwriter angle for a long time you know even if you're just counting this year 2025 it got off to a bad start you know I hated the edge match at revolution but I think what he's done over the

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[SPEAKER_04]: one of the most locked in guys when it comes to in-ring and character.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And number two, number one, Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're in lockstep buddy, Tony Storm, hangman page.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Tony Storm's number two, hangman's number one for me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Got all the same reasons that you already mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Tony Storm is just the epitome of

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[SPEAKER_04]: be enabled to pull off a character that literally nobody else could do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That character and anybody else's hands is a fucking mess.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I brought this up in our Wrestle Dream review.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She wrestles like the character, you know, you go back to any of her matches, you know, and she's pretty special with the way that she carries herself, just a fantastic performer and hangman, you know, what's there to say?

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, the man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, some of our top five is going to be really similar and some of you drastically different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So all this is good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was another thing noted on our surveys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They'd like it when we disagree.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: John is saying in the chat that he forgot fletcher interesting interesting so we do have a couple of voicemails in which we're going to get to here in Sweden so yeah keep those coming we want to get you guys involved this was just the guy had the other day like let's involve callers and a couple of our guys in the chat have already submitted their thoughts again there's the there is the URL you can go to and give us your top 10 and I just want to reiterate

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we did not include people who are currently injured or out, so that, you know, they're just not in here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This is this is current right now top 10 wrestlers in the, you know, in North America.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So no aspirinists were no Seth Rollins like they're all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm Jay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm Jay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm Jay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm Jay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So certainly in a few months, it's probably going to look a lot different when some of these people can next summer for sure would look way different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll get to my top five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I got to Keshta at number five, right, just right ahead of Okada, those two back to back, again, really high and what they're doing there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Takeshta is the IWGP champion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When he walked out the other night on Dynamite, you know, to confront Okada, as the hold on Cal's family was in the ring and he had the belt over his shoulder.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just kept thinking, this is just so close.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But God damn it, bring back the old IWGP heavyweight title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This bill, I can't believe they're still using it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That last belt they had was one of the top three belts in the history of pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, man, how awesome would this visual be if he had that belt on his shoulder?

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[SPEAKER_04]: In the weird thing, they completely changed the lineage of the world title, too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like once they brought this belt in, all the previous ones were scrapped.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's so weird, such a strange choice by New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I'm super high into Keshdo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All of us have been on the pod for years now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he makes my top five and then a number four, I got Kyle Fletcher as well as Jesse said.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, in the running for one of the best workers in the business right now, he is that guy that it's always exciting and wrestling when you have someone who's like, just on the periphery of the main event scene who you can see getting there, who's got the undercard title and you know, they're kind of grooming for that next spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So for once ago that was Jacob Fattu on the other brand now he's got his situation going on where he's out of action too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was really high on him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was kind of on the up and up for WWE and I think he'll eventually be at World Champion too, but he's not eligible because of his dental surgery he had recently.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's another injured guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's out for dental surgery.

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[SPEAKER_02]: him and brisco i think we're going to have another one the t's at the other night i think that's still in the in the running and i look forward to that and i don't have spoiler i don't have brisco on my list but i did consider him he was one of my just miss the marks we'll talk more about that here in a second uh... number three uh... kind of rough a more feathers of some of you boy

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to put Cody on here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the top baby phase in the biggest wrestling promotion in the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just kind of like drawing power just in you sent something in our group chat the other day about him and you're issues with Cody about him not being authentic and I agree with all of that just to be clear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's you know he's a solid worker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not a top tier worker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: his promos are bland for me, but the audience likes it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He draws money.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the top guy in the WD.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just kind of felt like I had to put him in here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's my number three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then our top two are going to be pretty lox set.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got Tony Storm at number two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said it earlier in the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's a number one woman in the industry, I think, and definitely in a W. And everything she does is captivating

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[SPEAKER_02]: which is a great worker, promos are next level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tony storms my number two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I do think that all around pound for pound, the best in the industry right now on October 26th, 2021 is Hangman Adam Page.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the Man in A, W.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a better worker than Cody Rhodes over on the other side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, WWE is a very company that's drawing more money.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no question about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But as a performer, hangman page is way more captivating to me as a fan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, they're in this spot right now with him where we're kind of talking about this on text last night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he might not have that challenger lined up right now and it feels like what they're doing with Joe was just kind of treading water to get him through the next few months, where, you know, I do think it's going to be Joe and they're going to have a rematch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I could see this going in months, I even threw out to you guys, uh, would it be possible?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this was because I had a conversational last night with our friend Jay about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If they would hot shop the title to Joe, just to extend

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[SPEAKER_02]: the program for then hangman to win it back from him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's not something that AEW usually does, but it's also a few that could carry you a few months.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm really curious where that feud goes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But hangman's a guy, he's carrying AEW's top title, let me update our list here and we can see this visually here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: To me, he's the number one person in the industry right now, just captivating his hell and my number one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there we go, our top two across the board

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of what I expect to go in and know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we got some variants along the way with WWE and AEW though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So John and Carl who are two-caller so far said that they included some injured guys because they didn't realize that was just fair.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't clarify that at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll still play those.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be a little bit different than ours.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And probably some of those injured people would have made our list if we had considered them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, there you are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're getting your flavors of WWE AEW down the board.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I can read through one more time and just all together and then we can talk about who just barely missed our list, actually Jesse, read your top 10 and sequence.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Cody Rhodes and Tristan Lander at 10.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Stephanie Vakir at 9.

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[SPEAKER_05]: John Moxley at 8.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Kenos Gate to Keshida at 7.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Bandito at 6.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okada at 5.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Mercedes Monée 4.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Kyle Fletcher 3.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Tony Storm 2.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And Hangman Page number 1.

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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Number 10, a tide, Keshta and Bandido.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Number 9, Ocada.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Number 8, Mercedes-Monae.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Seven Mark Briscoe, six Kyle Fletcher.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Five Rea Ripley, four Darby, three mocks, two Storm, one Hangman.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Also, only six wrestlers that appear on all three of our top tens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, trust them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got 10 Eels Guy, 9 Stephanie Vec here, 8 Mercedes Mene, 7, CM Punk, 6, Kazuchka, Okada, 5, Kenosuke, Takeshta, 4, Kyle Fletcher, 3, Cody Rhodes, 2 Tony Storm, and number 1.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hangman Adam age real quick.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to touch cuz this is something I thought of like almost immediately after me and Jesse recorded the Wrestle Dream review Regarding Carl's comment here about Hangman Which I agreed with to an extended he says my issue with Hangman's booking I have him very high in my list is that he's not being placed in the most important issue in AEW as champion Similar to 2122 until punk feud

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[SPEAKER_04]: I agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I do wish that he was put in a little bit more prominent position, but I think the difference is to me this time is he truly feels like the number one guy he feels like the top guy in the company, which was not the case during his first championship rain were he was it did feel like.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, he was not the most important person.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, he was punk.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was Danielson, that showed in the bookie of the shows.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he just didn't feel like the number one guy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This time to me, you're regardless of, you know, what story he's in or where he's at on the card.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He feels like the number one guy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_05]: In a couple of the instances, it's been, yeah, lights out, match, you had, you had an I quit scenario.

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[SPEAKER_05]: which I, well, I guess the way that, yeah, with the Missouri Athletic Commission, it makes sense that that had to main event, I suppose, but me and something you could have thrown in a little bit later.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think from here on out, Hangman's gonna start main eventing every single show as he rightfully should.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's just a much more polished product and to one point with a hangman and Cody, Cody himself back in 2019, anointed hangman page as the guy that's going to emerge when AWS starts.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He was correct.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So to John Moxley, too, from what I've heard as Moxley a couple years ago, called him out and said, this is the guy he's going to be the guy and the carries the company and yeah, I don't know like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Storywise, you couldn't main event with his match with Joe just to Jesse's point with the violence they had schedule, which would have been even more violent if the state commission didn't step in they got to get that out of pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think when you watch the shows, I do think he is positioned as the top guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's clear when he comes out, he's the man in the company.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Regardless of what's happening, story line wise.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, as I said, they don't have a lot of great challengers lined up seemingly for him right now, which we've definitely been harsh on WWE and Cody for that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we gotta be fair here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There are people who could be obviously like MJF, who's out, or like Swerve with their history, who's out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like injuries are an issue there for his future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you know, I do think this show thing is going to continue for a while because Joe's a guy who can work on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a former champion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's believable in the role.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a really good wrestler.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they can carry that out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious if, you know, if they did hotshot the title to Joe and then they came back in

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[SPEAKER_02]: they do like a cage match or something to blow it all off and you know hang man want it back at world's end selfishly i'm gonna be there so i would love to see but but uh you know we'll we'll see i think there is an argument to be made of to do something like that just to extend the feud until they get some of these other guys back healthy

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[SPEAKER_05]: something that I wish I had mentioned this last night in our text thread, I wish and over the last few months they could have found a way for Bobby Lashlin Ricochet to be presented as bigger deals because I had them both earmarked as soon as hangman won.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I said, I think Lashlin at full gear would be an awesome match but she got a start building and something they haven't done.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, yeah, it's because hangman now is running kind of running out of heal opponents.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think continuing this feud with Samoa Joe makes a lot more sense You're gonna have a lot of time in between paper views to so I think kind of forecasting down the road I've a weird feeling that it's gonna be MJ of hangman at revolution at 2026 Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I could see that for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right last call you guys There's the line

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[SPEAKER_02]: You went, you got up to 90 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you go to that URL, we can get you involved in the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll leave this on the screen as we talk about our just missed people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we'll go to the voicemails here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So get those in, last call on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll start some of the people that I had that I was considering when I initially just threw out a bunch of names when I was just brainstorming.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Moxley was obviously sand was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Moxley just barely missed my list.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he was in the running for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had Bandito.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I had Mark Briscoe, I had Athena, who I was considering.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's everyone that I didn't actually get to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, because at first I had some injured wrestlers and had to take them out of the running here for sure, but I drastically changed my initial order that I had.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So as I went down and I kept making out lists, like I started moving them around a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I felt like I wasn't being fair to WWE and then I kind of changed that a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, originally Cody was not even in my top 10, and then as I read it, I ended up boosting him to number three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So just a huge change there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't have punk, actually no, I didn't have punk in my original brain storm, but he was weighed down the list and ended up getting him up there at, uh, at number seven.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jessie, who did you have that just barely missed your list that you were considering?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Before we get to that, I think the most shocking omission is John Moxley off of your top 10 list, Ryan.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, agree.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Now I'm feeling more validated about putting him back down at eight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's 11 or 12 probably for me right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I couldn't put him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's important to the company for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not a title holder, but always could be, what did you call him Justin?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's that steadfast guy for eight, W the ace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's the ace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just so top time when you're considering two big companies is is really tough and I did have what how many I look forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be people on this list Yeah, it was tough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He he's probably next person up for me though

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[SPEAKER_05]: If Rollins is not hurt, he is replacing Cody for me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think that would bump Stattland or off the list for me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Osprey is another easy one.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, if you take account what he's done in 2025, if he's healthy, he's number three on my list with a bullet.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So those were two very similar here I had.

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[SPEAKER_05]: a lot of WWE here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Real Ripley was one that you mentioned, EO Sky.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I had her in my top 10 last night and then took her off afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I had, I did have Athena, Gunther, a couple other names mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think I said Punk already.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The other one was Athena.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Other one was Athena.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I also felt that if Tiffany Stratton had more of a character she'd be very very close to the top 10 as well Just because she only has one loss so far as well in 2025 so a lot of honorable mentions

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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, my toughest omission.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My number 11 would be Samoa Joe.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The guy we're just talking about a minute ago to reiterate the injury and oh, my still here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I just had a little pop up that said, oops, something went wrong.

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[SPEAKER_04]: to reiterate the injuries and not there, you know, MJF, Osprey, Gunther, Chad Gable, Kevin Owens, you know, those are kind of the big names.

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[SPEAKER_04]: People I would consider if it wasn't for the fact, just that I think they've been booked poorly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, Jacob Fattu is the other big injury one.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He would absolutely be in there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: bad bookings, just not interested, but guys I like in a, you know, curious as to what's going to happen with them, Ron Braker, Drew McIntyre trick Williams, old befending was another one I'd considered.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Athena just missed the list, just not really on TV, personality character needs a little bit of work, but, you know, as far as going in the ring, there's probably

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[SPEAKER_04]: nobody better.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Big name that I don't believe has been mentioned in which kind of proves why he is not on our list.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Kenny Omega just kind of sporadically showing up and having matches that are I would say below the level that we're used to with him but a big name.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah,

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[SPEAKER_04]: Anybody who listens, again, you guys know I'm biased.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I can't be objective with this kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This is my list.

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[SPEAKER_04]: These are my tastes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, so a guy like Cody in punk just never even kind of entered the conversation for me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I would consider punk way before I'd consider Cody.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And the only reason I didn't have Darby Neuralist at all is because he's barely worked in 2025.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's just been doing this since the July and the July.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, to that point, again, for me, it was just right now, you know, I didn't really take into account a whole lot the entirety of 2025.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Someone who's actually doing really good work and just lost his United States title, we didn't mention either Sam Ezen.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think would be another guy that I would have loved to have gotten near the top 10, but other than that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I named everybody I wanted to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Rollins, for sure, would have been on my list if we had this a couple of weeks ago, but the unfortunate injury obviously took him out of the running.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Same with Jacob Fattu, I would have considered him also.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so we got a couple of voicemails.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We can get to here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got, I think John was first, so I'm gonna play these in order, and then we'll go to Carls.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So first time I've done this, so hopefully this will work and you all will hear this on the stream.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get these going here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey guys, John from the UK.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, my top 10 in no particular order.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Will Osprey, Eosky, Hangman Agden Page, Bandido, Drew McIntyre, Chris Stattlander, Tony Storm, Cody Rhodes, got to have Kenny Omega in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Swiss Strickland and then a honorable mention to Mercedes money.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the names we just talked about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he had a Cody on his interestingly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, Drew McIntyre Drew McIntyre.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, maybe Drew should get some consideration.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good call.

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[SPEAKER_05]: If we did this in about a week or two, uh, he might be considered depending on what happens next Saturday night.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: So obviously, John didn't, again, didn't hear our no-injury rule at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we should have called that out at first.

01:02:20.847 --> 01:02:23.151
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, some of those people like Swarve, they were Osprey.

01:02:23.171 --> 01:02:26.756
[SPEAKER_02]: They would have been considered, I was for sure, if they were not injured.

01:02:28.479 --> 01:02:30.082
[SPEAKER_02]: John, everybody hates how they sound.

01:02:30.683 --> 01:02:34.609
[SPEAKER_02]: On the, sometimes I hate editing the show because I hate how I sound.

01:02:34.669 --> 01:02:40.999
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, the only time I listened to Top Rope Nation or the episode I am not on.

01:02:41.198 --> 01:02:43.802
[SPEAKER_04]: Because every time I listen to me, I want to quit the pod.

01:02:45.204 --> 01:02:45.765
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no!

01:02:46.125 --> 01:02:47.628
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just on himself, my God.

01:02:48.990 --> 01:02:50.051
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's get to Carl.

01:02:53.897 --> 01:02:57.122
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not in second, isn't quick about how to do a top 10.

01:02:57.142 --> 01:02:59.525
[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to give an honorable mention to a last break.

01:02:59.846 --> 01:03:02.169
[SPEAKER_00]: He's at my top 10 because he's incarnated.

01:03:02.690 --> 01:03:06.395
[SPEAKER_00]: If he was going to be back in the short term, I probably would have put it in there.

01:03:06.515 --> 01:03:07.577
[SPEAKER_00]: I would be top three.

01:03:07.979 --> 01:03:18.075
[SPEAKER_00]: He's not actually going to be able to quite a while, so I'm not including him in there, similarly Swordspricle and I've been, because he's going to effectively miss half or twenty four and five.

01:03:18.516 --> 01:03:22.121
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I can put him in a current sub ten missed.

01:03:22.141 --> 01:03:28.992
[SPEAKER_00]: So by top ten, EO sky at number ten, could always keep the question at number nine when you don't that when it's cheap and cheap answer.

01:03:29.292 --> 01:03:33.277
[SPEAKER_00]: Carl Fletcher, number eight, Stephanie Vicarro, number seven.

01:03:33.757 --> 01:03:36.580
[SPEAKER_00]: I could easily flip those pure ranting argument for that.

01:03:36.601 --> 01:03:40.825
[SPEAKER_00]: Similar, I could flip these to your round at CM Punk and the six very written number five.

01:03:41.646 --> 01:03:46.432
[SPEAKER_00]: John Foxy, number four, hasn't been for me, but he's been the user's a glue that's how they do them together.

01:03:46.993 --> 01:03:49.095
[SPEAKER_00]: Number three might be controversial, that's gone for.

01:03:49.876 --> 01:03:51.638
[SPEAKER_00]: Number two, Hangman Adam Page.

01:03:52.059 --> 01:03:57.645
[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, for me, they stand up for

01:03:58.047 --> 01:03:59.328
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you deserve that position.

01:03:59.909 --> 01:04:11.080
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, just give a quick note, not to say this moment I know you was on the frame, just by top 10, I just think character wise, it's a bit too great and I don't think that's limited in 10 to the character.

01:04:11.100 --> 01:04:14.884
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why not include it here.

01:04:14.904 --> 01:04:15.485
[SPEAKER_02]: Very good.

01:04:15.885 --> 01:04:18.267
[SPEAKER_02]: John and Carl appreciate you both calling in.

01:04:18.307 --> 01:04:20.570
[SPEAKER_02]: We, hey, we got your sky from both of them, so that's cool.

01:04:21.050 --> 01:04:22.191
[SPEAKER_02]: Get your some credit.

01:04:22.211 --> 01:04:23.953
[SPEAKER_02]: They're overlapping with my list there.

01:04:24.220 --> 01:04:34.913
[SPEAKER_05]: Like no, I was so close to having her in and then I took into account her win last record and I was like, nope, yeah, you're coming off.

01:04:34.933 --> 01:04:38.337
[SPEAKER_02]: So my goal with this call line, this is a super cool feature.

01:04:38.977 --> 01:04:44.764
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I, I've been thinking about doing this for a while and just didn't have the infrastructure in place to do it, but when there's the pay per views.

01:04:45.505 --> 01:04:47.447
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be doing this and it'll be open for hours.

01:04:47.668 --> 01:04:52.653
[SPEAKER_02]: You can just call in your thoughts in the aftermath of the paper view and we'll just play through all of them on the show when we review them.

01:04:52.854 --> 01:04:54.075
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that'll be a lot of fun.

01:04:54.393 --> 01:04:56.037
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have more time to get involved.

01:04:56.077 --> 01:04:58.582
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll send the link on on Patreon and all that stuff too.

01:04:58.662 --> 01:05:01.528
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I'm glad a couple of you got involved.

01:05:01.548 --> 01:05:03.032
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got more people in the chat too.

01:05:03.132 --> 01:05:04.535
[SPEAKER_02]: And this has been a fun show, Jesse.

01:05:04.775 --> 01:05:06.379
[SPEAKER_02]: Appreciate you coming up with the idea.

01:05:06.439 --> 01:05:10.628
[SPEAKER_02]: And we should probably do this like every quarter and update, you know, where things stand.

01:05:10.648 --> 01:05:12.452
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we compared where we were the last quarter.

01:05:13.141 --> 01:05:30.206
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's a hell of an idea, especially like you said, when returns happen, because all of the skill that we mentioned in there that has been nominated because of injuries is kind of glaring, because if you would go back to this time last year, I'd say half of those people would not be on this list, including Kyle Fletcher.

01:05:30.306 --> 01:05:32.950
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think your name would be, I don't think you'd be in a top 10.

01:05:33.270 --> 01:05:34.972
[SPEAKER_05]: If you looked at it this time.

01:05:36.034 --> 01:05:36.735
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.

01:05:37.627 --> 01:05:46.617
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, real quick before we wrap the show you guys, just talk about some things that are coming down the pipe here at TRN and our TRN offices.

01:05:47.178 --> 01:05:54.747
[SPEAKER_02]: So we've got top-rotemation classics on WCW Halloween, Havick, 1989, which is going to drop for our patrons here.

01:05:54.767 --> 01:05:59.112
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to record this in the next couple of weeks, got to work out a time for sure, but that is coming.

01:05:59.092 --> 01:06:05.042
[SPEAKER_02]: T-R-N-Extra, I recorded one the other day, specifically on my review of Wrestle Dream.

01:06:05.422 --> 01:06:10.931
[SPEAKER_02]: I also did the Bleacher Report show from my hotel in Chicago, but I wasn't able to pull the audio this time.

01:06:10.971 --> 01:06:16.040
[SPEAKER_02]: So I recorded a dedicated extra for our Patreon supporters, and that was posted this week.

01:06:16.521 --> 01:06:25.335
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse posted an unplugged also for our Patreon supporters, and I think one of the things people know it in their surveys, I should

01:06:25.315 --> 01:06:34.748
[SPEAKER_02]: I should go over what the benefits are of the Patreon again on the show because some people aren't aware of the different tiered benefits you get.

01:06:35.349 --> 01:06:43.961
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to share my screen here really quick and kind of talk about the different options on Patreon and how you can support the show and get this bonus content from us.

01:06:44.041 --> 01:06:50.850
[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, so if you look at the screen here, the most popular tier is the $5 tier and on that tier,

01:06:51.185 --> 01:06:53.893
[SPEAKER_02]: you get access to top-rotemation classics.

01:06:54.234 --> 01:06:56.520
[SPEAKER_02]: You get access to top-rotemation extra.

01:06:56.961 --> 01:07:01.735
[SPEAKER_02]: You also get access to top-rotemation unplugged Jesse's show.

01:07:02.390 --> 01:07:03.752
[SPEAKER_02]: You get all of our shows add free.

01:07:03.772 --> 01:07:06.956
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're on our main podcast feed, there's ads.

01:07:07.797 --> 01:07:10.700
[SPEAKER_02]: If you get on the Patreon fee, there are no ads whatsoever.

01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:17.729
[SPEAKER_02]: You get my star ratings for every WWE and AEWPLE, which I might expand on right now.

01:07:17.749 --> 01:07:19.471
[SPEAKER_02]: I just list the star ratings for every match.

01:07:19.491 --> 01:07:25.258
[SPEAKER_02]: I might start adding some analysis as well that's been mentioned in our surveys as a kind of a written feature.

01:07:25.947 --> 01:07:27.950
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a Patreon-only Facebook group.

01:07:28.030 --> 01:07:34.258
[SPEAKER_02]: You get your name at the bottom of the screen as I did earlier here in our right to beginning.

01:07:34.278 --> 01:07:35.740
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I had the names tick by.

01:07:35.900 --> 01:07:37.182
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I definitely didn't forget that.

01:07:37.202 --> 01:07:37.702
[SPEAKER_02]: That was on there.

01:07:37.722 --> 01:07:38.684
[SPEAKER_02]: We do that every week.

01:07:38.864 --> 01:07:42.989
[SPEAKER_02]: You see all the names scroll at the bottom of the screen at the top of the show on the video version.

01:07:43.670 --> 01:07:44.791
[SPEAKER_02]: Get your name featured in the show.

01:07:44.811 --> 01:07:46.774
[SPEAKER_02]: You get the call out when you join the show.

01:07:47.243 --> 01:07:51.949
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you get 20% off our merchandise store all the time.

01:07:52.009 --> 01:07:55.534
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a special code that all the patrons have access for.

01:07:55.614 --> 01:08:04.967
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're a patron and you don't know about that search for it, uh, I guess it gets probably sticky the post to, but if you search for, uh, shop discount, it'll show up on Patreon.

01:08:04.987 --> 01:08:07.130
[SPEAKER_02]: You can use that to get 20% off all the merch.

01:08:07.150 --> 01:08:11.856
[SPEAKER_02]: So the new designs I dropped earlier on the show here, 20% off all the time.

01:08:11.876 --> 01:08:14.820
[SPEAKER_02]: That basically makes things at cost.

01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:16.505
[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty much like what we get them for.

01:08:16.525 --> 01:08:17.648
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no profit for me.

01:08:17.789 --> 01:08:20.376
[SPEAKER_02]: We just want people to be able to get our merch at a cheaper cost.

01:08:20.397 --> 01:08:21.781
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's reserved for our patrons.

01:08:22.683 --> 01:08:23.666
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the $5 tier.

01:08:23.706 --> 01:08:27.237
[SPEAKER_02]: So you get a lot just for getting in at $5 yet all the audio bonus.

01:08:27.879 --> 01:08:29.704
[SPEAKER_02]: At the $10 tier,

01:08:30.038 --> 01:08:32.061
[SPEAKER_02]: this is something we haven't done for a while.

01:08:32.282 --> 01:08:33.243
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to bring this back.

01:08:33.303 --> 01:08:40.935
[SPEAKER_02]: We've done a few of them in the past is the happy hour, which is like a monthly, it was supposed to be a monthly and then we've got it in a way from this, but we need to bring it back.

01:08:41.036 --> 01:08:44.721
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe this winter, when we're all, you know, in our homes and nothing to do outside.

01:08:45.142 --> 01:08:46.444
[SPEAKER_02]: Top preparation, happy hours.

01:08:46.524 --> 01:08:47.846
[SPEAKER_02]: Zoom hang out with all of us.

01:08:47.886 --> 01:08:48.648
[SPEAKER_02]: We share our screen.

01:08:48.668 --> 01:08:50.110
[SPEAKER_02]: We watch a wrestling show together.

01:08:50.491 --> 01:08:52.053
[SPEAKER_02]: We did some old draws in the past.

01:08:52.073 --> 01:08:53.295
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a lot of fun.

01:08:53.275 --> 01:09:04.352
[SPEAKER_02]: Quarterly merchandise giveaways where I give free merch away to the patrons, and then also the ability to nominate shows for our TRN classics polls when we decide what we're going to do every month.

01:09:04.452 --> 01:09:11.743
[SPEAKER_02]: Only the $10 plus tier people get to nominate shows for that poll and have to say and exactly what show we review on classics every month.

01:09:11.763 --> 01:09:20.937
[SPEAKER_02]: And then lastly, with the Hall of Fame team tier, that is $20 a month, you can get a guest spot on the show whenever you want once per quarter,

01:09:20.917 --> 01:09:24.381
[SPEAKER_02]: come on for a full episode, that's guaranteed to you if you're on that tier.

01:09:24.441 --> 01:09:36.654
[SPEAKER_02]: I've only had one person who's been on the 20 other tier that asked you to do this, but I got on a zoom call with them, basically showed them how I mix the show and how I go about producing this thing over the last decade.

01:09:37.115 --> 01:09:40.178
[SPEAKER_02]: I can give you personalized media and podcast training.

01:09:40.599 --> 01:09:43.802
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been involved in the wrestling media for a long, long time.

01:09:43.782 --> 01:09:51.919
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, if you're looking for advice on how to get a foot in the door, writing about wrestling, podcasting, video, whatever, I can help you out.

01:09:52.119 --> 01:09:53.522
[SPEAKER_02]: We could do one on one Zoom calls.

01:09:53.562 --> 01:09:56.087
[SPEAKER_02]: That is a benefit of the $20 a month here.

01:09:56.860 --> 01:09:59.383
[SPEAKER_02]: and free merchandise every six months.

01:09:59.604 --> 01:10:03.368
[SPEAKER_02]: We got some people on this tier that are to do some merchandise that I'll be contacting this week.

01:10:04.009 --> 01:10:10.578
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'll send you a free merch bundle every six months if you're on the $20 tier.

01:10:10.638 --> 01:10:19.510
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, that was mentioned in our surveys that I should just go through again and mention all of the benefits because some people weren't aware of everything you get at the tiers.

01:10:19.550 --> 01:10:23.695
[SPEAKER_02]: But you do get all the bonus audio at $5 and then you get more specialized stuff.

01:10:23.675 --> 01:10:24.776
[SPEAKER_02]: as you go up the ladder.

01:10:24.957 --> 01:10:28.581
[SPEAKER_02]: And as the Patreon grows, we will likely be adding to this list.

01:10:28.601 --> 01:10:33.267
[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked about Justin starting meet the nation as a podcast once we get to 50 patrons.

01:10:33.788 --> 01:10:36.211
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you want to help us get there, sign up.

01:10:36.511 --> 01:10:38.153
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the best time to do that.

01:10:38.974 --> 01:10:42.479
[SPEAKER_05]: And I also saw the seven day free trial still available.

01:10:42.719 --> 01:10:45.543
[SPEAKER_05]: So for those who want to test drive it, please do.

01:10:46.184 --> 01:10:47.906
[SPEAKER_05]: And just see if it's worth your time.

01:10:48.126 --> 01:10:48.767
[SPEAKER_05]: We think it is.

01:10:49.548 --> 01:10:49.648
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:10:50.472 --> 01:11:00.267
[SPEAKER_02]: Almost everyone who's signed it for the free trial stays on as a paid subscriber and we appreciate all of you Justin you got a soccer game start and soon or football.

01:11:00.347 --> 01:11:13.527
[SPEAKER_02]: I should say I've got an American football game starting soon here in 39 minutes where the Chicago Bears and their fourth and fifth string cornerbacks will be playing the Baltimore Ravens luckily

01:11:13.507 --> 01:11:15.170
[SPEAKER_02]: Lamar Jackson is not playing.

01:11:15.250 --> 01:11:16.272
[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe they have a shot.

01:11:16.532 --> 01:11:28.073
[SPEAKER_02]: I was worried they were going to lose by 30 or 40 points when I saw we were down our top four corners this week But we'll see what happens Jesse you've got a buy week, don't you?

01:11:28.711 --> 01:11:32.697
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a gorgeous day outside, a 37 to 10 loss on Thursday was what I got.

01:11:32.857 --> 01:11:34.200
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, that was Thursday night.

01:11:34.220 --> 01:11:35.041
[SPEAKER_05]: Kind of watch.

01:11:35.081 --> 01:11:37.465
[SPEAKER_05]: So might as well be a buy at this point.

01:11:37.925 --> 01:11:39.368
[SPEAKER_05]: I actually am still debating.

01:11:39.388 --> 01:11:42.272
[SPEAKER_05]: I might be recording an unplugged episode later this afternoon.

01:11:42.873 --> 01:11:47.060
[SPEAKER_05]: Just depends on if I want to watch the Halloween edition of ECW's Hardcore TV.

01:11:47.080 --> 01:11:51.867
[SPEAKER_05]: Because there is a couple of very important things that happened on that show.

01:11:52.302 --> 01:11:52.622
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

01:11:52.823 --> 01:11:53.323
[SPEAKER_02]: Very nice.

01:11:53.343 --> 01:11:54.204
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll look forward to that.

01:11:54.505 --> 01:11:57.348
[SPEAKER_02]: Justin, I'm going with the wife to see the new Springsteen movie tonight.

01:11:57.468 --> 01:11:58.890
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, look forward to that.

01:11:58.930 --> 01:11:59.811
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me know how that is.

01:12:00.212 --> 01:12:00.552
[SPEAKER_02]: Sweet.

01:12:00.632 --> 01:12:03.556
[SPEAKER_02]: I might have maybe go next weekend and check that out.

01:12:03.576 --> 01:12:04.517
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking forward to seeing it.

01:12:04.537 --> 01:12:07.101
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeremy Allen White looks like he is phenomenal in the role.

01:12:07.121 --> 01:12:08.963
[SPEAKER_02]: So big time Bruce fan.

01:12:09.043 --> 01:12:09.784
[SPEAKER_02]: Looking forward to that.

01:12:10.785 --> 01:12:12.207
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's going to be next weekend.

01:12:13.128 --> 01:12:14.009
[SPEAKER_02]: Episode 400.

01:12:14.049 --> 01:12:15.631
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.

01:12:16.212 --> 01:12:16.632
[SPEAKER_02]: A big one.

01:12:17.293 --> 01:12:17.854
[SPEAKER_02]: Stay tuned.

01:12:18.695 --> 01:12:20.925
[SPEAKER_02]: and we'll be coming at you next week, everybody.

01:12:21.448 --> 01:12:23.698
[SPEAKER_02]: Have a great week, see y'all next time.

01:12:23.718 --> 01:12:25.667
[SPEAKER_02]: Cody Rhodes is the McDonald's of wrestling.