MJF Wins Title, AEW Double Or Nothing An All-Timer

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[SPEAKER_03]: Leave me to do it, it is no time!

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[SPEAKER_03]: The better it is, the better it was, and the better it will be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're back here, in my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The only one in my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And now I reach you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm sure you didn't sleep much last night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about you guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So what a freaking show AEW double or nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're talking about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's episode four, 17 of Top Rope Nation, Ryan, Jesse, and Justin Justin, how you doing this morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: doing pretty good going to apologize in advance saying the listeners I got a little bit of an act of household going on so you might hear my littlest one chatting away from upstairs but uh man other than that I am absolutely buzzing from the show last night it's our fourth co-host up there in the distance it's fine the air parent yeah

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse, we were on the air together live about what, nine and a half hours ago on Bleach Report.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse actually subbed with me and we did the post show last night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How are you doing, man, did you get some sleep?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not much actually do my usual trick on days off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get up early, eat some oatmeal, and go back to bed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a wild dream, and I only slept for like an hour after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, I got some decent sleep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for the invite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, I love being unbleached report with a different crowd.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we had a big audience lesson.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, you know, WWE shows always do the most views over there, but that show was popping pretty large.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was a lot of people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's some real momentum going on in the wrestling world right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think you could say, I mean, how could it not?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, I was looking this morning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is the number two all time highest rated A W show on cage match as of right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it could go up, it could go down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's like over 100 votes right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But right now, the second highest show they've ever done on cage match according to those voters, the only show higher Brody Lee tribute show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously back in 2020, but as far as a straight wrestling show, the number one highest.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And

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[SPEAKER_02]: God, I mean, there's so many, five or six matches on the show that we're like, would be match of the night on mo shows so much variety on it matches it all felt different, which is one of the things I think that makes a W show so special is is that you get so many different types of wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You get your stadium stampede, you get moxley in Kyle O'Reilly, you know, work in submissions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You get the high flying stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You get the brawling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin, give me your grade and why I mean, I think it'd be kind of silly not to give it an A plus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you what else you could possibly expect from a show like this, except maybe a huge angle, which I mean, they didn't have a huge angle, but we did get Kevin Knox turning at the very end of the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not to mention Kyle or Kyle Fletcher coming back and turning on to Keshta, but yeah, I mean, I

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree 100% with what you said, the thing that really got me about this show was the flow of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Tony Con nailed the layout of it, in my opinion, granted it was greatly helped by just an A plus plus crowd and the environment in general.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That stadium looked just fantastic, an incredibly unique looking show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to your point, yeah, every match felt different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that might be the number one thing I love about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A.W.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is it's not there's not a house style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's a wrestler style and yeah, just knocked it out of the park Yeah, I mean, I agree with a lot of what you say.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll talk about Kevin night later because he could maybe pick that a little bit, but you still got an angle to close the show And we'll see Kevin knocks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Am I talking the NBA player Mike?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I almost made a mic knocks a rest of the crap

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we'll talk about it later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We all knew what you meant, but yeah, dude, the arena, the stadium, the Louis Armstrong stadium, just the way that thing is built.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's too bad it couldn't have the roof open because they had bad weather, but it made it louder, honestly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's like a wall of sound.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can tell watching it, how steep the seats are, and everyone's closer to the action, it came across on TV.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything was incredibly loud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: felt so vibrant.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Our friend Frank was there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, we couldn't get him on the show, but, you know, he was texting us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, watching at the energy was palpable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You could feel it through the TV not to be

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[SPEAKER_02]: totally stereotypical.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you could feel it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a hot crowd, totally, Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, just real quick, I just want to, you know, speaking of like the the roof being closed or whatnot, I wondered if that added, you know, there was a lot of the steam or fog in the air, and a lot of times you could see it rolling off the wrestlers mid match, especially with the moxley, fledged.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and if these days, if we can't get, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: arenas that don't have air conditioning, you know, I'll take this as a, you know, an extra visual effect and shout out Alan in the chat here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the pacing is what was truly nailed more than anything on this show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Alan says nine matches it ended in four hours and ten minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The pacing was great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I thought it flew by.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've had shows where it felt like, oh, man, we still have two matches left.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've all been good matches, but there's a lot left pacing on this one was really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_00]: god yeah it was like central time probably around 10-15 when we were getting to the main event so yeah i thought that they laid it out nicely go ahead Jesse oh i can give my great again so i'm gonna take you down a little road to get there uh what i if i feel is the greatest rap album of all time ilmatic by nas uh came out in 1994

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[SPEAKER_00]: There really is only one song on that album that is I feel all timer, but the rest in this is another musical term the album has no skips.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel this card had zero skips.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's some that were a little bit below, but I mean everything was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: very well-paced like high intensity completely different all the way through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I don't think it is the greatest paper view of all time yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is going to go down as one of the better ones, so I'm going to give it a flat A. Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would be at an A as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We said that last night on the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really have any gripes with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes we talk about these shows and we say,

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a couple of matches they could have left off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really feel that way on any of them on this one because, you know, the worst match, the worst match was to me a three and a quarter match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that match and the women's own tournament match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You gotta have on here because it's the Owen Hart tournament.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're kicking it off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to have the tag team titles on here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All the undercard titles for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, stadium stampede as long as that's going to be a gimmick of this show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to have it on there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, and there's a ton of star power in the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The women's title match belonged.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing you can cut on this show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And all, I couldn't look at this and say, you got to cut that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So everything belonged, as we said, lots of variety, multiple, multiple, like four and a half star-ish matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No skips is a great way to put it Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I 100% agree, so yeah, I'll say as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's start with the main event right away because that's the big news.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Would he lose his hair?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about it on our preview show on Thursday night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't think so, but there was that small, small shred of maybe, maybe has movie roll coming up that he needs his head shape for, but probably not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And in the end, MJF regains the title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: for the third time in a spectacular main event, ending Darby's brief, but very note-worthy world championship run, which is kind of exactly what we expected from the beginning short, but a lot of fire to this run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to throw it to Justin because Justin is a guy on this show for years, who has promoted the idea of a Darby Allen world title runs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How do you feel about

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thought it was pitch perfect if you were going to do a Darby rain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is exactly how you do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he had seven or eight title defenses in the span of basically a month and a half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe they noted it on the show that in the history of the AW title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He now has the third most moral title defenses, which is absolutely incredible considering the length of some of the other rains.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, this was spot on even with the hair stipulation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they executed that perfectly with Roosh, challenging Derby for the following Wednesday Dynamize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To just maybe drop a little kernel of doubt in there is like who's going to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then also even they had the barbershare at the top of the ramp, which was a nice little touch that made you kind of go, hmm, well, could they?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end, I think,

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[SPEAKER_01]: they had the right outcome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, get a back on MJF, you know, he pointed out on his Twitter page that he joins a pretty elite company of professional wrestlers and major promotions who have won three world titles by age 30.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Kudos to him, the match was exactly what it needed to be, especially after, you know, the glorified squash that Derby and him had for Derby to win the

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I don't know what else I could really say about this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was a little spotty, but that's kind of to be expected in a Derby match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had no issues with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's a little bit of blood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I assume unintentional, but yeah, all in all, man, like at least like a four and a quarter, possibly four and a half match for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that list that he put out on Twitter, the men who have been three-time world champions by 30 is Luth as the Rock, Rock Lesnar, Randy Orton, John Cena, Shinsuke Nakamura, and Kazuchko Kata.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's pretty elite, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He now joins that list, three-time A, W, World Champion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse, you're take.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Initially.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Match of the night for me, I would exactly just in four and a quarter to four and a half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, well, here's why it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the story behind it added so much of an element.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did some really great storytelling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of side headlock takeovers, but they've been doing that since the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Full gear 21.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I say it over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's my favorite opener in the history of AEW for a paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and they were, they had some callbacks with that with the, uh, the one and the two counts in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, it was a little spotty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Darby scaring the hell out of a multiple times, especially clipping his feet and hitting his head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The match could have been over right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That, I mean, that's almost the way he wanted to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said it in his ESPN interview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He says, if I, if I die in the ring, so be it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, morbid, but okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is what he loves to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what he was put on earth to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: He entertained the crowd he's been doing it for the last six and a half years with the AEW umbrella and his title run was magical I did exactly what I told Justin I would do as soon as imagine it standing ovation big old clap for about 15 seconds And it wasn't for MJF it was for Darby Allen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was tremendous stuff High highly recommend going back and watching it MJF getting the win

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[SPEAKER_00]: in his hometown or his home state of New York where he said that he's a above everybody else he's living in his mansion not living in bullshit burbs and Garvey Allen is he was in the subway just represent in the people make fully put it over in the beginning as well which I thought was a cool touch where he maybe got some extra paper advice from the YouTube watching crowd so all in all that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, we forgot to mention it on our preview show, but Mick Foley, I loved the, you know, the pre-show interaction with Mick Foley and MJF and Darby, you know, with, again, planning maybe a little seated out with Foley pumping Darby up with, you know, win one for the weird ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just, man, that dude still has his fastball when he needs it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, bring it out the main event at the end of the pre show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought was really smart with Mick Foley in the ring on the free stream right before the paper you started to get those last minute buys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and as you guys mentioned, MJF healing it up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's still a guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't quite 50, 50, but there was dueling chance throughout the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He did his best to try to get them to boom, bash the nicks at the nicks on

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[SPEAKER_02]: talking about everyone being trash like he would do all of that and he got yeah he got some booze um but you know overall still there was people there that wanted to see him winny's he's the hometown kid you know so yeah tremendous match to me it was match of the night was probably

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really like this one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Swerve and Bandito had spots I've never seen before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think just from a ringwork perspective, Ocata and Takeshis probably in that conversation as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really like the Osprey Joe match too as a sprint, but I really liked it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, the story in this one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved how they set that up with the barber's table and the barber chair No barber shop window.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got the barber's table table And they're working that into the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also good god.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's so much I like about the show this set

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[SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely loved the scaffolding, like the construction-looking scaffolding set that they came out of.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was so unique, you know, on top of just the venue itself too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Really like the look of this show, it felt totally different, you know, from any of their other sets that they've had.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we can get in the match a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesse and I, we did the 30 minute be our show last night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We very much skimmed these matches, even though we all had tons of notes because we were like, yeah, we don't have time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got to just skim through it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like to have the spotlight too on the on the the clippers on that table as Max makes his entrance and he's just kind of glaring at it, but yeah, I mean the headlock takeovers right away that suicide dive you guys talked about do Darby landing right on the back of his head I was

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[SPEAKER_02]: Scared for a little while that they're gonna have to end the match and go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did the audible gasp when that happened He's taken some bad, you know bad falls obviously, but this one looks really bad Like we might be in danger of not having a match right now and he still goes on to have a I don't know It was like a 25-minute match or something like that

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then right after that, Max is power bombing him on the ring apron, working over and over on offense, he goes for that avalanche tombstone out of the corner.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that ended up being a big part of the match at the end, so they're kind of laying the groundwork right here, Darby ended up reversing that kind of into a sloppy looking stunner spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then Darby hits the dive to the outside, he goes for the coffin drop across the ring apron

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[SPEAKER_02]: Max moves, Darby comes down on his back, mjf ends up giving Darby a package pile driver on the ring steps goes for the headlock takeover.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby pushes him off almost into the ref.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby hits a low blow, headlock takeover for two again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you like that that kept me in the story?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Was that headlock takeover calling back to five years ago?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that's been the story of their rivalry, you know, did to the point going back to their first big spotlight match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 70s and 80s feel to that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go win with a headlock takeover.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby locks in the scorpion, but Max gets to the ropes for the break and then Darby immediately hits a coffin drop right after that, but Max gets his knees up to counter it, gets a two count, and then you get Max going for the heat seeker, which gets blocked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: MJF slingshots him into the ring to go for a cutter, which he did this but earlier I believe, but I didn't take notes over every single spot in this match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is towards the end now, but he goes for the cutter, Darby blocks it, hits a scorpion

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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby goes up for another coffin drop, but decides against it because Max moves out of the way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so then they're exchanging back and forth, headlock takeovers, sunset flips, rollups, countering pins, back and forth all around the ring, tons of near falls, Max ends up doing a bridge spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a code red attempt which gets blocked, Darby hits it anyway, though, for two

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're both exhausted by this point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're sitting on the canvas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love this camera shot where they're both leaned up against the bottom ropes across the ring from each other, staring at each other.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Darrys almost got tears in his eyes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It can tell his body's breaking down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He goes for another dive to the outside and MJF pulls the camera in into the dive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And basically, you see it from the perspective of the camera.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, this was one nitpick in the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It should have not shown this because they go to a replay from behind the camera man to show it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And on the replay, you can see that the camera man did not get hit at all by this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was just kind of holding the camera in the way of the dive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: did he not really get hit, but you can see him kind of sit up to make sure the camera angle was just right to capture a little bit of Derby on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he laid back like he'd been destroyed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so that was it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a directing error.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They should not have gone to that replay because watching live you couldn't tell it looked like you got taken out just from the first person camera.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when they showed the replay, you're like, uh, he didn't really get hit, but then of course they don't know that and they haven't laid out where the camera man, and then

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[SPEAKER_02]: is going to be attended to by medical and taken out of there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, yeah, we just saw the spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He didn't get hit at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a problem when the match for sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it didn't take away from the performers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was more directing air.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, other than that, let's see where I might have lost my spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So then Max carries Darby up to the barbers chair, up at the top of the ramp, and he grabs the

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Darby locks in a front guillotine to counter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Darby sets up MJF on that table that the clippers were on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he climbs up at the top of the entrance scaffolding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he does the bang bang, oh my gosh, to Mick Foley, the cactus jack.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he hits the coffin drop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Through the table.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Darby is then bleeding from the back of the head.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he drags MJF towards the ring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They get back in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby hits another coffin drop, MJF kicks out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That everybody bit on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You thought, that might be the finish.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby locks in the scorpion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Collapses after a few seconds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Call them back to that match with Sammy Gowar on collision, where you just couldn't last.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At that point, MJF smiles at the camera.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He goes for the headlock take over again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby counters it into a scorpion death drop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: MJF gets up, hits the ropes to crotch him up top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now MJF hits that avalanche tombstone that he went for earlier in the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they had lock take over and cover one, two, three, new champion, MJF, phenomenal match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Phenomenal stuff poses with Darby after the match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Darby's on a, he's on a gurney outside the ring and Max is standing over him holding up the championship belt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, and that's when you get Kevin Knight running out and Kevin Knight confronts Max, but ends up hitting a frog splash off the top on to Darby on the gurney on the outside heel turn by Kevin Knight to end thanks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anything you guys want to chime in with here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I dug it, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think some people who don't pay attention will say the Kevin Knight, not Kevin Knox, he'll turn came out of nowhere, which is not the case if you've been paying attention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The seats have been laid that maybe this guy cares more about winning than he does about being a good guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I did not hate that at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really the only thing we didn't get out of this is what direction MJF is going to be going with the world title, which they don't need to address at the end of a giant paper view.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but yeah, I thought it was all really well done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially, I think it was the last diameter of the beginning of the collision when Kevin night came out on the microphone and he ushered speedball, Mike Bailey to the back and MJF sneaks around in the corner and starts beating up Darby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they ever came back to the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So little things like that, I had this is a small nitpick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a couple, which keeps it from being in a plus, but I would have and Ryan to this last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have waited till dynamite to pull this off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have much rather have ended the paper view with mjf just gloating how he's the champ and call it good, but it was a it was a surprise and it was yeah, I thought it was well executed at least Yeah, I mean a lot of times they'll do stuff like this when a heal wins to send the crowd home happy with a baby face mom, but it was just another heal turn, you know, so

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[SPEAKER_02]: I suppose the thought is it's more impactful because Darby, you know, he's laying out on the stretcher and, you know, he's taken him out that way with the kind of a crazy spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he could have done an undying of my thought.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I guess you're given, you're given some main event shy into Kevin Knight and into Justin's point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've been talking, we've talked about this multiple times on the show of a possible Kevin Knight heel turn and

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think universally we were kind of against it because he just seems like such a tailor-made baby face, but we'll see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm open to seeing how he does in the role.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I suppose long-term planning wise of Osprey goes on to win the title and you're lining up some guys who could have spectacular matches with him, but as a heel challenger, I mean, there you go, maybe that's in the long-term planning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, we'll see, we shall see, but yeah, it was a phenomenal, phenomenal main event.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was watching this, my oldest child stayed up with me last night, but she started falling asleep during the main event and asked, watch it in the morning, and about 20 minutes before we went live, she asked to watch it, and I was like, we got away till after the show, because I don't want to miss the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I want to see your reaction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, we're going to watch it when you get done with the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll watch it a second time then, but yeah, really liked it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mentioned the blood on Darby's head.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a talking point, you guys, because evidently in the stadium stampede match, there's an issue with the New York Athletic Commission where number one, they weren't allowing blood on the show, and number two, they didn't want them to brawl through the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're expecting more of the in-the-crowed action, that's why that didn't happen in stadium stampede.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this was it was fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is one of the gripes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have the very few gripes with an A show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel very strongly that stadium stampede is played out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's it's run its course.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We could probably retire it for a couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Frank who was who was an at the show are good friend Frank Petty Annie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He said the crowd was kind of dying at times during

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's a, it's a way to get Jesus at 14 guys in this match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They did some memorable stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There were, there was some cool spots.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was shocked to that, I don't know if you guys saw the, the video on social media, the spot with the bus backstage with Mark Davis and Perry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was live.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was now pre-taped.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a video of someone at the top of the arena who turns around with their camera and you see it happen outside the building.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually did that live, which is pretty crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's getting through those two to the point where it's like, all right, double or nothing have to do inarchy in the rainyest stadium, stampede.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel kind of like, yeah, it was maybe this could put the cap on it for a little while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That said, it was entertaining.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess for me, with stadium stampede slash anarchy in the arena, there's just an inherent silliness and fun factor to it that it doesn't bother me that it pops up once a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like a hell in the cell or a blood and guts word.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is the culmination of a blood feud that they just shoe horn in because it's the that time of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This one is just it's more for fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the fact that they have to shoe horn it in doesn't really bother me as much having said that I do think it's too long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... if they could shorten it up a little bit but uh... my experience with this one was colored by uh... how i watched it which uh... we had some unexpected family visit us uh... but luckily uh... my wife's uncle was one of them and he's a huge wrestling fan and doesn't get to watch a w very often and

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[SPEAKER_01]: boy he was just glued to the TV the entire night while the entire rest of the family was playing cards he was just watching wrestling with me but also my my kid was watching too and he was super into it so you know we were having a lot of laughs and it was just a very enjoyable experience in fact the two times I've heard my kid laugh the hardest

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[SPEAKER_01]: was number one we watched the great outdoors about a month ago and when the bear gets the fur blown off of his butt at the very end he laughed very hard at that and then for some reason the the way that Leo Rush runs just had him cackling like a madman it was it was pretty brilliant so

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just had a really fun experience watching the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It did drag a little bit in the middle, but so if they could cut this down in the future, to like, I mean, just give us 20 minutes of anarchy in the arena once a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got no issues with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was the longest match on the show, 31 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, go ahead, Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He looks like the fighter from Blood Sport.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you remember that movie, Sean Claude Vandiam.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Leo Rushdo's with the jumping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a it's a cool character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, uh, and he also has some ties of course with Shelter Bobby Lashley to do so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like that they played into that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It all made sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think if you use it as a comedic purpose, I think from now on, as opposed to blowing off a feud, it's definitely is much a little bit more well received.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In my end, this was completely different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just all the goofy spots and the food stuff backstage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of independent wrestlers getting a little bit of shine there and people recognizing that, Luchessaurus with the picture in the crowd, which was awesome with the blonde wig.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When Andrade was taken the selfie, I really accackled at that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ricochet, channeling 2018 in New Orleans when he in the very beginning with his triple jump bus shooting star press to the outside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I popped for that because I just remember where I was when I watched it and was blown away by it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just a bunch of cool little things and then for me, the the biggest touch was Kenny Omega smoking the cigar in the beginning and coughing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, pop me big and yeah, those suits were awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How about the, I mean, we don't give him his kudos very often, but Chris Jericho with the sub boot tribute at the end of the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you check that out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We dot dough through a unmanned table.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a nice touch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they pointed it out on a commentary for anyone who was like, what the hell's he doing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they talked about it being the Saboo tribute, as he did the one to this guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I thought that the outfits were a nice touch, the demand they had on baseball uniforms, which was cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You guys mentioned the suits that the baby faces were wearing and the ties and everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They can the baby face team comes out to devil's dance by Metallica, the backstage video feature that, that was nice, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, I got some notes on this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so scattered, it's hard to take notes on a match like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Justin, we know from being at one of these in person, it was just crazy, just back and forth, whereas everybody got your head spinning the entire time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, everyone was just kind of destroying Ricochet at the very beginning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All the baby faces are kind of taken turns on him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then he hit that shooting star to the outside that you mentioned, Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_02]: they're fighting to the backstage area to the medical area that was kind of the first time they got out from ringside that was a kind of a different part to this match because even I remember my oldest was like are they were going to leave the ring area because at the very beginning they were all just around the ring and there was none of that rolling through the crowd that you usually get up to stairs right away and as I mentioned that was due to the athletic commission apparently

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when they finally get back stage, yeah, the hurt syndicates like in this medical area, that's where Leo Rush came out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then they showed the bucks who were by the kind of the merch stand and they hit Clark Conner's with double superkicks, setting him on the escalator and then he's going up the escalator land on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They did that spot with Luchessaurus, the Jesse talked about, where he's got the blonde wig on with Andrade, doing the pictures that was pretty funny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jericho and Ricochet were in the ring and Jericho gets out this big bag and you think it's thumbtacks and it's tennis balls and the crowd starts chant and balls.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jericho suplexes Ricochet onto them and Ricochet comes back because Jericho a death valley driver onto the tennis balls.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and then they show Perry and Davis, they're fighting and catering the food fight Jesse mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Andraudig gets tossed into satin and sing, start the food fight, who stands up and yells food fight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The bucks are fighting with the dogs and they entryway, Conner's got a super kick while he was in a trash can rolling down the ramp and a shopping cart.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Luther was backstage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: hands a huge tennis racket like this massive oversized tennis racket to Jericho and he just beat the shit out of ricochet with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mark Davis was outside near a golf cart and that's when Perry came in with that school bus ramming it, which was live, and they're like, oh my god, Mark Davis was in that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: more than that in a second.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Megas in the ring destroying the dogs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's coming back to the ring at this point, including Mark Davis.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mark Davis is out there with his bandage on his head.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, if you got destroyed,

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[SPEAKER_02]: My obus we shouldn't have seen him again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be one epic I had to eat it about their back at ringside.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The bucks take out the dogs then through the tables at ringside.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can he gives on drawday the one-week an angel through a table outside the ring off the ring apron.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it kind of just left Ricochet in the ring all by himself and he's surrounded by all seven baby faces and they're all hitting their finisher's and then Jericho goes for the Judas effect, but Bishop Khan comes in pushes Ricochet out of the way to save him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they all give a super kick to con, a seven-way super kick, and then Jericho hits the lion's salt and covers Bishop Con for the pinfall.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Baby faces go over Jericho does the aforementioned dive through the empty table outside the ring and attribute to Saboo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, fun match, some cool spots, probably about 10 minutes too long, and that sent my main spot for me, but you know, this is what you get out of this match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably neither here nor there, but are you guys okay with them saving Ricochet from taking the fall or did you feel like that should have been the culmination of this story?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great call on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably should have been the finish, but there's good means I guess it's going to mean there's more to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we really want to see more over Ricochet and Jericho.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Allen says in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So was it confirmed that Mark Davis legit injured his eye?

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was really selling it for a bit and then the bandage over it shortly after.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So early in the match, that was the table spot, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where they said the leg of the table, hit him in the eye.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have not heard on that, but they seemed like it was legit because he, yeah, he had that all wrapped up afterwards brutal if it was legit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's let's go back to the beginning of the show now because that was like the main, that was the semi-main.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about the pre-show, getting Mick Foley out there, I'm going to ask just in the question that I asked Jesse last night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So would you be opposed to Mick Foley wrestling once or twice in AEW?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think if he can go?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, um, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I probably not this stage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see the benefit of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's too much risk involved with his health.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, he's not gonna be anything that he was like before, even in the waning years of his career, so no, like, you know, maybe if they did like a cinematic match with Derby, like, you know, the early self with sting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think the negatives would probably far outweigh the benefits of having a Mick Foley match

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Jesse kind of had a similar thought, potter to vacuum, sorry, double chucking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Get the vacuum out, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, Jesse had a similar thought last night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would not be opposed to one or two, just for him to have a farewell match in like a tag match scenario where you can protect them a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cause we saw,

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[SPEAKER_02]: what they did with sting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, they kept sting going for a long time and it was very good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The thing with Mick, if he's lost a lot of weight, he looks in fairly good shape, is he didn't really get a good send off when he decided to return to the ring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, he had all the send off's earlier in his career and then he ended up coming back and coming back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he had the TNA run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He came back, I think in the 2012 rumble a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even really remember what he did in that match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: but he never really got like this send off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if he wanted to do it, I would be totally fine with like one or two matches, very much smoke and mirrors to protect him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, TK said he thinks he's gonna do this stuff with him in Renee on the broadcast team and he thinks that that's something that's gonna last for a really long time and that they'll have good chemistry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I also just think him as a backstage presence, contributing ideas will be a huge positive for this company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, honestly, if you're going to do one more Mick Foley match, you'd probably want to do a stadium stampede, you know, because then you could really cover up any of the shortcomings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Kevin said in the chat, I wish the shows would start earlier, not ending at midnight Eastern time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We all agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This one, I would give them a little bit of a pass because it's a holiday weekend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And most people will have today off work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think normally when they do these Sunday shows, I 100% agree, they should start earlier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm fine with the four hour paper view length or four hours in change, but yeah, let's get them going a little bit earlier.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it shows starting at 8 p.m. Eastern time, which is cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty late if you're out there attending the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I saw it created some transportation issues for people after the show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You also have to know that that's going to be the case.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you follow the company that it's going to go till midnight and probably plan accordingly, but I know public transit was an issue for those at the stadium.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, I mean, they ended the pre-show with that segment we talked about with the main event in the ring, kind of entice you to get those buys in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They opened with FTR defending the titles against Copen Christian, and I quit match of Copen Christian, do not win the titles, they can't team again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We all predicted them to win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: they did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the ending sequence was Beth Phoenix or Beth Copeland coming out, painted it up just like Legatha from Vikings if you've ever seen that show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, down to a T exactly how she was painted up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, badass.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They set up this flaming table spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it looks like cash is going to spear Beth through the table, all of the fully spotted Mania 22, but Beth moves out of the way, stoically gets speared by cash through the flaming table.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dax then gets a low blow from Beth in the ring, Christian locks in the scorpion deathlock, coped the crossface simultaneously, Beth goes over to the corner of the ring, lifts up the stairs

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[SPEAKER_02]: is spike and she brings spike up to Copeland who pushes those spikes into Dax's head and he quits you get Copeland Christian celebrating is the new tag team champions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have no problem with this, get them on the lineage, you know, familiar faces,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Tag division, maybe if I have a little bit down right now, but they're going to probably be having some new teams coming and by the end of the summer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think in this moment, this is totally fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't overstate welcome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There wasn't anything overly offensive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the finish was a little clunky and melodramatic, but that was also kind of to be expected with the dudes who were in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hopefully not too long with tidal rain, maybe get it off of them at all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't hate it, not really my cup of tea these days, but obviously I'm a huge FTR mark, so love everything they do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I echo a lot of Justin Sentiment's, I see Kevin a couple of comments on in 2026, and this algebraic wrestlers I've been saying that for years, so we definitely agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm adding a quarter star back to this match because of the New York State Athletic Commission and their banning of blood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: be with spike and dacks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, where's the blood?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There needs to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, with that spot, there has to be, but if you're going to outlaw it, then nope, I'm bringing it back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, no, I really enjoyed this match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did, I mean, four veterans with a lineage and a pretty big story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_00]: or what's with a cash, I think was in Edge's home just going to the struggles and the independent scene and just everything that's come to fruition here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really good opening match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do have a problem with the winners, but I think it's kind of not similar to Darby in terms of the length of the championship run, but you'll get a lot of promos to build up to and all in match, and they'll probably drop them there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was in the conversation with some of the better opening matches and paper you history for AEW.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a phenomenal match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a really, really good match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some of the Christian and Copes best stuff, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, yeah, with the blood stuff, I mentioned that earlier, if you're wondering on Darby, because Darby did have blood on the back of his head, that must have been hard way from that coffin drop, because that must have been legit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He got busted open, because otherwise, yeah, we didn't have blood on this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually re-wound that a couple times trying to figure out what did it and it almost looked like with the way he'd landed through the table, part of the table like flew up and I think hit the back of his head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've also seen speculation that because it was on a slightly elevated platform that maybe he had the edge of that platform, but I think it was the table shooting up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now that you say that I remember the table on a kind of weird look to it afterwards, like it was part of it was really vertical standing up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's probably it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, yeah, what we mentioned earlier, probably in the discussion for best match of the night was Ocata and Takeshita for the International title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Takeshita ends up winning the title, getting his win back from their match at Worlds and which we thought that match under delivered.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was there in person was really hyped for it, decent match, but nothing otherworldly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This one was, this was like a four and a half star match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This was a phenomenal match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They hit it out of the park here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: back to back these two matches to open was a hell of an opening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That first match was very good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They told the story where like Don Calis is out there at ringside and he's he's trying to stop each guy from going too far with the Calis family, you know, so after Ocata had hit a rainmaker on the apron, they're out there right in front of the announced position where Calis is on commentary and he stops Ocata from giving to Kesta tombstone on the outside.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and then Takeshita comes back and he hits a brain buster on the floor and Don's Pest.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's protesting that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We get, you know, towards the finishing sequence is just hot back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Takeshita hit the rainmaker, Okada hit a big drop kick, Takeshita ends up hitting raging fire and he wins the international championship.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was totally engrossed in this match and at this point in the show I was not taking notes on every single move.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mostly just wanted to note the finishing sequence.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But man, this is one to go out of your way to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was phenomenal stuff and to catch a standing strong at the end.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they do the split.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So after the match, there's this face off between to catch on the rest of the Calis family.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And on comes Kyle Fletcher's theme song.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Justin, the last time we saw Kyle Fletcher,

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[SPEAKER_02]: collision.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We were there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He got injured and he comes out, stands side by side with Takeshta.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you think he's back up for him against the Calis family and the crowd's cheering.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But after the Calis family bales, flutter hugs Takeshta.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He presents him the belt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They raise each other's arms and then fletcher close lines to Keshta to a chorus of booze and he gives him the brain buster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the callous family holds to Keshta and fletcher takes him out with a belt shot after the kind of a a tense stare down between fletcher and Ocata over the belt but then Ocata deferred to fletcher and you get all of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Kyle Fletcher is back to Keshta's out of the family.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I will just start by apologizing to you both from our preview show or I'm pretty sure you both wanted to go okata and I talked to you out of it like a touch to all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yes, sorry, you both wanted to go to Kesha and I talked you out of it unfortunately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I knew I was in trouble when Kesha had the kind of the special promo package to start the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, that was a pretty big tell, but yeah, this match absolutely delivered just two studs, delivering haymakers and uh, two of the best at closing a match and you know, the closing segment was just out of this world, uh, really starting when to catch to hit the rainmaker on Ocada and you could just see the electricity go through the crowd

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[SPEAKER_00]: nitpick number two, the one count, uh, yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was one later, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't a fan of either, but it is what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish they'd retry, not retire, but wait for another year to do it again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The shock value's worn off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good grief.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, early on was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they were they tease their finishers in the first minute in just games of one upsmanship and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Vintage, Ocata as some people would say with whenever the situation arises and you ask them to step up in a big spotty does and yeah, these two just went over the top and then some, and it wasn't overly done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this was easily my second highest rated match of the night, little over four and the raging fire was sweet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was a little surprised and just and you stopped us all from going undefeated in our predictions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's a part of life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, this is Eric in the chat, I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought Ocada would retain, but I'm happy with the outcome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He says Kyle's turn was upsetting though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it's doing a job.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I think you need him heal because, again, think of the challenges for Osprey down the line.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you need, you need to be able to come back to that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think, I think flutcher is an outstanding heal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that suit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good grief.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said it last night, but yeah, that dude is going to be at the top of the promotion sooner rather than later.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I might be biased as a Brett Hartmark just as Justin is, but when he wears the pink, I love the look with the pink on him, and honestly, probably my next wrestling shirt I will buy is a pink and black Kyle Fletcher shirt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good color scheme.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so, yeah, so after this one, you had the own tournament with the women, the only own tournament women's match on this show, Athena, Meena Shirakawa.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And story through this match was Athena, selling an injury to her leg.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For most of the match, we kind of kept Mina in it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've talked about before how Athena, over in Ring of Honor, is basically on a Roman Reigns type run with several years as champion here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've been waiting for her to get to the AEW television roster and stay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully this tournament will be that for her and kind of the springboard for that happening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In the end, Athena reversed a reverse suplex, hit a jumping tombstone, came off the top of the O-face stunner for the three counts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you're grading the matches, probably the lowest graded match on the show, but it was still a good match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that Mina hung with her all throughout, you know, it was about 11 minute match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe without the injury stuff going on where she saw on the leg, you have Athena win a little bit better, but are a little bit faster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, she hung with her all throughout, elevated her game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I mean, it was a decent match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think we all predicted Athena would win, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I was pleasantly surprised.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a decent match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Would you think Justin?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't really care for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did the job of getting Athena over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually thought, mean it was a little clunky in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's not really her,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know what she's best at the in-ring stuff but I guess she did what she needed to do here and yeah you just get Athena moving on low point low point of the show for me but it wasn't bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bernie, it's exactly where I had it 2.75.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kudos to this New York City crowd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were actually into this, which is like a death match spot or a death spot where you're going right after an Ocata to Keshita just arguably like one of the two best matches of the night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony kind likes to do that putting the women in that spot and I thought they did really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, it's surface purpose and like once again, 1252 days of Athena is ring of honor champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's about that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Move her up to the roster and yeah, bring her to the top right now, especially with Mercedes and Tony, because side track things and techless really the only person right now with a tremendous amount of momentum.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you don't think of Mina as like a outstanding in-ring worker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Athena has been one of the best women's wrestlers in the world if you've been watching her, you know, on ring of honor for years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's just been like her stuff has been buried behind a paywall for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, like I said, I thought, I thought, I mean, it did fine here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought she hung with her and elevated her game a little bit, but, you know, you're not talking a four-star match or anything like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it was not offensive and

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[SPEAKER_02]: did what they needed to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, so we started this match with violence or the show with violence and the I quit match, you know, good in-ring work, but also some brawling with Okada and Takeshta settled it down here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you get Moxley and Kyle O'Reilly, Continental title match, where, you know, submission wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Another outstanding match with a totally different flavor to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing that would take away from it is just I never bought for a second that Kyle Riley would beat Moxley just where he's been positioned in the company.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He isn't outstanding wrestler who just on the surface of how good he is in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You should be able to buy him as somebody who could pull out the win against Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw him do the time limit drawn TV.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But character wise, you just can't buy it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I never thought that the finish was in doubt, but it was a really, really good match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now it was the second match in a row where the leg was the story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, or I, I went for a kick early, where he, his left, I think it was his left leg, kick their ring post.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so he was kind of selling that throughout the match, then Moxley's working that leg going for the ankle locks late.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there was this kind of, there's this good transition late where Moxley locked on a choke and then Kyle rolled through, turned it into an ankle lock on Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there was a double ankle lock where then Moxley grabbed his ankle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And both guys have an ankle lock on Kyle tried for a pin out of that spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: got a two count, but Moxley held the ankle the entire time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So after he got out of the pin, Moxley was still hanging on and Kyle's like desperately trying to crawl to the ropes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can't make it ultimately settles in taps out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that finishing sequence was really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like the match a lot, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was probably an easy four stars for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: believing that they could do a title switch here if only because of like, you know, I think obviously Kyle O'Reilly is beloved by a lot of the people in AWS and even probably Moxley and I could have seen a scenario where Moxley was like, well, let's give him a run with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See what you can do with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the right call was made that that is not the direction they went with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: one of my favorite top-rope nation t-shirts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Grab a hold, tell a story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're doing here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Going back to our very beginning conversation about AWS show, it's the variety.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They give you this was definitely a slower, more methodical, limb-working kind of match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have two in the best in the business right now, doing it, I really dug it, a brilliant story, perfectly executed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and Moxley continuing kind of with the babyface stuff here with the show of respect at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The wishers a little more steam on Kylo Riley.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was a little too early for it, even I think the dynamite match was a little early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: None of the less.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, no minimal ring rust.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, these two have really good chemistry, and they both love jujitsu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know they mentioned O'Reilly's a purple belt, and I know Moxie's in practicing for years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The sad thing on this match was Jim Ross unfortunately, just lost in the sauce.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with O'Reilly being 15 months younger than Moxley and just, yeah, Jim Ross, like not having a clue, probably thinking he was younger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Moxley wins the match and J.R. yells out, we have a new champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you don't, it's Moxley won it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's very sad there and it took a, it took away from a very good match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was definitely in the high threes on on this one and

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[SPEAKER_00]: moxiconhold.com, and I'll change the ship for a while, and I don't care, because I think eventually the person who does beat him is going to be elevated to another level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, great point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, that was why I didn't really see O'Reilly winning, although to Justin's point, I could see it from a personal perspective where mox would be like, I want to put him over, but I didn't think he should, so I think it was the right winner.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, so then we go with the Owen tournament again back to back two men's matches here to start with Joe and Osprey and you get will Osprey actually came out first, which I was a little surprised by, but then it made kind of sense with how the match started because will jumps Joe in the match right away and Joe's entrance with an Oscar and will is on offense until he misses a backflip to the outside.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh,

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[SPEAKER_02]: over the top rope to the outside where he landed on his feet and then Joe immediately grabbed him in a sleeper from behind and then he threw him into the ring side barrier and then Joe starts working the neck.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and later Osprey goes for the Oscutter again, and Joe does the whole walk away spot where, you know, I was in front of all that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Love that, too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He follows that up after Will falls down to the mat with a back splash.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Will comes back, it's a style splash to a big crowd pop.

56:19.051 --> 56:40.548
[SPEAKER_02]: will hits the hidden blade, but Joe kicks out will goes for another, but Joe hits a power slam, Joe hit a urananagi followed by the cocaine clutch, and will starts to fade, and they drop his arm once twice, and on the third drop he's able to grab the bottom rope for the break from the cocaine clutch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, Joe goes for the muscle buster, but will slips out,

56:46.113 --> 56:50.036
[SPEAKER_02]: And he hits, uh, I think he hit a hit blade.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, hit the hit blade there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wrote my notes to the sling blade that threw me off last night to typo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a hit blade.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One count will hits a second one right after that for the pinfall.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And after the match speaking of show of respect, they show Joe on the outside and he bowed to him from the aisle.

57:08.550 --> 57:17.696
[SPEAKER_02]: And I saw that Will had said po-show that this kind of completed a dream of his because

57:19.152 --> 57:30.021
[SPEAKER_02]: He, like his, his dream was to wrestle styles, Daniels, and Samoa Joe, and he had never wrestled Samoa Joe until this, and he finally got to do it.

57:30.782 --> 57:35.065
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's, that's cool from a personal perspective, but yeah, this match, I really, really liked it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They went 13 minutes and 52 seconds.

57:39.349 --> 57:42.492
[SPEAKER_02]: Sprint, no down moments, good stuff Justin.

57:43.493 --> 57:45.714
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I all caps loved this match.

57:45.834 --> 57:55.661
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we talked about in our preview show about the really the story for I think the three of us was how good was Osprey going to look against a monster like Samoa Joe.

57:55.841 --> 58:00.163
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought he looked pretty damn similar to the old Osprey.

58:00.464 --> 58:01.444
[SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty incredible.

58:03.786 --> 58:19.974
[SPEAKER_01]: Holy crap, 2026 and Samoa Joe, just still lighten up the ring every time he's in there, just an absolutely special, special wrestler that we really need to appreciate that we're getting them right now, because I don't think his career is going to be lasting all that much longer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But God damn, yeah, this match absolutely delivered for me.

58:23.936 --> 58:25.057
[SPEAKER_01]: Thought it was fantastic.

58:25.857 --> 58:29.659
[SPEAKER_02]: Something I wanted to throw into with him having that goal of wrestling in those three guys.

58:30.160 --> 58:44.208
[SPEAKER_02]: That was because he said the match that motivated him to want to become a professional wrestler was unbreakable 2005 TNA, the triple threat with Joe and Styles and Daniels in the main event of that show.

58:44.948 --> 58:53.315
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you've never seen that match, by the way, I was covering wrestling at the time and I did live coverage of that show for WrestleView.com.

58:53.996 --> 58:58.000
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was doing star ratings back then and I gave that match five stars that night.

58:58.620 --> 59:06.507
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, that's that's the match that apparently motivated Will Osprey as I guess he would have been like 16 at the time that he wanted to go into professional wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now he's he's WrestleLaw3.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead, Jesse.

59:10.849 --> 59:20.376
[SPEAKER_00]: If I follow through with this in November, I'm actually covering the rematch of those three on TRN unplugged, which I'm really excited to do because, yeah, it's a great match.

59:20.416 --> 59:30.083
[SPEAKER_00]: And a big reason why we'll ask Pravey came a professional wrestler with Osprey, or with you with Joe, I want to get back to this on the fall, when we stepped out of the way.

59:30.483 --> 59:38.629
[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't done this before, sense of urgency just went right into that Sintan, just show that, yeah, I need to be serious against this guy, but also have a little bit of comedic timing, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

59:39.730 --> 59:42.051
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this was, this was interesting.

59:42.331 --> 59:44.732
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a, it was a very good match.

59:44.792 --> 59:51.434
[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, I think they're going to ramp it up a little bit with Will Osprey over the, over the coming weeks and get him ready for for England.

59:52.414 --> 59:57.036
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he, he's adapting a style a little bit with a little more submission base trying to, uh,

59:57.956 --> 01:00:12.653
[SPEAKER_00]: keep the miles a little bit lower is it posts to the high flying stuff, which I'll actually get to in the next match in a moment, but yeah, right winner to to current legends out and future Hall of Famers that went at it and you couldn't have asked for much more.

01:00:14.267 --> 01:00:19.309
[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of miles and high flying, do either of you have any like airline miles saved up?

01:00:19.529 --> 01:00:30.034
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to consider a trip to San Jose because we could be looking at Will Osprey and Swerve Strickland at forbidden door in the Owen finals.

01:00:30.074 --> 01:00:30.814
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see what happens.

01:00:31.115 --> 01:00:35.637
[SPEAKER_00]: But my god, I said if I didn't have my son that weekend, I was going.

01:00:36.997 --> 01:00:39.038
[SPEAKER_02]: We know we don't quite a few people out there.

01:00:39.618 --> 01:00:41.739
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just put that out there, but man.

01:00:42.020 --> 01:00:59.868
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that would be a great show to go to Speaking of that, yeah, they filed this one with right away Swarvan Bandito just and you said on our preview show arguments be made just as a in-ring worker Bandito Among the best, if not the best in the world right now on the run the he's on and this match

01:01:00.961 --> 01:01:04.544
[SPEAKER_02]: had spots I have never seen before.

01:01:04.564 --> 01:01:06.766
[SPEAKER_02]: It was unreal.

01:01:08.447 --> 01:01:11.069
[SPEAKER_02]: Swarve comes out, Michael Jackson tribute gear.

01:01:11.750 --> 01:01:19.076
[SPEAKER_02]: Had like these tights, it looked like it was wearing white socks with the black, had a red coat on cool homage there.

01:01:20.477 --> 01:01:25.321
[SPEAKER_02]: And early on, Bandito gives Swarve a one arm press slam.

01:01:26.958 --> 01:01:28.941
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, that was pretty impressive for him.

01:01:29.662 --> 01:01:34.709
[SPEAKER_02]: Bandito hit a centon off the ring apron to Swerve who was seated in a chair on the outside.

01:01:35.938 --> 01:01:40.602
[SPEAKER_02]: Swerv gave Bandito a release German into the corner and then starts working the neck.

01:01:41.182 --> 01:01:57.736
[SPEAKER_02]: Bandito pops, swerv up into the air, swerv landed on his shoulders like standing, hit a house call or like a kick, followed it up immediately, going up to the top for the swerv stop for two.

01:01:57.816 --> 01:01:58.617
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to repeat that.

01:01:59.157 --> 01:01:59.197
[SPEAKER_02]: So

01:01:59.658 --> 01:02:01.440
[SPEAKER_02]: And Dino popped him in the air.

01:02:01.980 --> 01:02:06.065
[SPEAKER_02]: Swerve landed on his shoulders was up there for like a second or two.

01:02:06.565 --> 01:02:08.528
[SPEAKER_02]: Hit the shoulders or hit the kick.

01:02:08.768 --> 01:02:10.029
[SPEAKER_02]: That was an unreal spot.

01:02:10.950 --> 01:02:13.774
[SPEAKER_01]: Immediately into the, yeah, spot of the night, my opinion.

01:02:14.014 --> 01:02:14.655
[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy.

01:02:14.835 --> 01:02:16.236
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely crazy balance.

01:02:17.026 --> 01:02:19.407
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, yeah, jumps to the top, hits the swarves down too.

01:02:20.788 --> 01:02:24.309
[SPEAKER_02]: Bandito hits the reverse, Rana off the apron to the floor to swarve.

01:02:24.950 --> 01:02:28.711
[SPEAKER_02]: Bandito hit a bridging German for two, but he couldn't hold it.

01:02:28.851 --> 01:02:32.333
[SPEAKER_02]: He's selling his injured neck from earlier, referees checking on him.

01:02:33.637 --> 01:02:36.718
[SPEAKER_02]: Swarve tries to reverse a sunset.

01:02:37.258 --> 01:02:41.719
[SPEAKER_02]: So you get bandito kind of flying over the top, Swarve grabs his legs.

01:02:42.379 --> 01:02:51.021
[SPEAKER_02]: You think he might throw him back into it like a sidewalk slam or something, but then as he's thrown him back, bandito pops up in the same motion.

01:02:51.582 --> 01:02:56.383
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a hurricane rana that stands Swarve up like straight on his head.

01:02:57.443 --> 01:02:58.724
[SPEAKER_02]: just insane.

01:02:59.044 --> 01:03:02.206
[SPEAKER_02]: You posted this in the discord just, and that spot was wild, man.

01:03:02.746 --> 01:03:05.607
[SPEAKER_02]: I was about 20 seconds too early by saying spot in the night.

01:03:05.647 --> 01:03:10.370
[SPEAKER_01]: This spot was probably the most spot of the night, just absolutely incredible.

01:03:11.230 --> 01:03:14.472
[SPEAKER_02]: Up there with the best soul hurricane run as you will ever see.

01:03:15.092 --> 01:03:15.332
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:03:16.213 --> 01:03:20.175
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, and swirp hits a vertebrae here in the house call for the pinfall.

01:03:21.195 --> 01:03:23.436
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I had this one around four and a half.

01:03:23.596 --> 01:03:24.237
[SPEAKER_02]: This was just.

01:03:25.238 --> 01:03:26.998
[SPEAKER_02]: original match.

01:03:27.419 --> 01:03:28.919
[SPEAKER_02]: It's stuff I've never seen before.

01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:30.239
[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny.

01:03:30.359 --> 01:03:38.161
[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like, you know, we started with the main event, you know, going back to the, the, the, the, to catch a little caught up and then into Osprey Jones.

01:03:38.181 --> 01:03:39.802
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, I think that was my match to the night.

01:03:39.842 --> 01:03:41.682
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, maybe this was my match to the night.

01:03:41.742 --> 01:03:45.523
[SPEAKER_01]: Now again, here I am, maybe Swirbendito is my match of the night.

01:03:46.140 --> 01:03:51.724
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, 15 minutes of 15 seconds, so a little like about a minute and a half longer than the last one, but similar length.

01:03:52.244 --> 01:03:53.025
[SPEAKER_02]: So, didn't over stay.

01:03:53.045 --> 01:03:54.046
[SPEAKER_02]: It's welcome at all.

01:03:54.106 --> 01:03:56.388
[SPEAKER_02]: Just no down periods at all for now.

01:03:56.408 --> 01:03:56.908
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to stop.

01:03:57.760 --> 01:03:58.560
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, where you want it.

01:03:58.881 --> 01:04:06.104
[SPEAKER_00]: And Bandito is challenging Claudio Castenio Lee for the pound for pound the strongest wrestler in the world.

01:04:07.304 --> 01:04:14.608
[SPEAKER_00]: The insane strength that guy has, and he showcases it on a pretty much on a nightly basis when he wrestles.

01:04:15.008 --> 01:04:21.391
[SPEAKER_00]: The crazy thing is, and somebody mentioned this last night, ever since he went on this run, he was coming back from an injury.

01:04:22.596 --> 01:04:27.821
[SPEAKER_00]: and he's been doing this for the last year on fricking believable.

01:04:28.041 --> 01:04:35.027
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if he had a little bit more of a character like look out, I think you could rise them to the top without without question.

01:04:35.988 --> 01:04:38.891
[SPEAKER_00]: One thing commentary mentioned, it was Tas saying that

01:04:39.451 --> 01:04:43.173
[SPEAKER_00]: Swerv has added some size, so he can keep his mileage a little bit down.

01:04:43.233 --> 01:04:45.374
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was a really good call.

01:04:45.494 --> 01:04:54.078
[SPEAKER_00]: And Swerv has a deputy can still pull out a good move from time to time, like the shoulder move on top of Bandida with the kick was phenomenal.

01:04:54.418 --> 01:04:58.660
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this match was third for me sitting in the four to four and a quarter range.

01:04:58.700 --> 01:05:03.102
[SPEAKER_00]: I was blown away and I knew that I would be so great stuff.

01:05:03.162 --> 01:05:07.784
[SPEAKER_00]: And we see Swerv move on looking forward to what we see for the rest of the Owen.

01:05:08.344 --> 01:05:09.565
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, absolutely.

01:05:10.145 --> 01:05:12.146
[SPEAKER_02]: Must watch stuff for sure.

01:05:12.766 --> 01:05:12.966
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

01:05:12.986 --> 01:05:15.848
[SPEAKER_02]: The only magic I haven't talked about was the women's title match.

01:05:16.048 --> 01:05:19.850
[SPEAKER_02]: So this was third from the top now, right before stadium stampede.

01:05:20.538 --> 01:05:37.125
[SPEAKER_02]: Tecla, against Jamie Hayter, Chris Stattlander, Akaroshita, we talked about it in the preview show that there's just, we like all of these ladies, but there was no way to justify taking the title off of Tecla for any of them right now.

01:05:37.185 --> 01:05:39.346
[SPEAKER_02]: None of them are really in a position to be Tecla.

01:05:40.347 --> 01:05:43.328
[SPEAKER_02]: Tecla has been just a real success story this year.

01:05:43.668 --> 01:05:44.729
[SPEAKER_02]: She is phenomenal.

01:05:44.889 --> 01:05:47.310
[SPEAKER_02]: The character work, the wrestling is unique.

01:05:48.110 --> 01:05:51.271
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, when someone beats her for the title, it's going to be a really big deal.

01:05:51.371 --> 01:05:53.652
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just couldn't do it on this show.

01:05:55.012 --> 01:05:58.033
[SPEAKER_02]: That said, this match was also really good.

01:05:58.314 --> 01:06:00.234
[SPEAKER_02]: I really, really like this one.

01:06:01.014 --> 01:06:02.055
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, late in the match.

01:06:02.095 --> 01:06:08.257
[SPEAKER_02]: You had a sheeta and statlander brawling, you know, their alliance was breaking down.

01:06:09.297 --> 01:06:13.579
[SPEAKER_02]: Statlander hit a brutal close line to Tecla that looked phenomenal late in the match.

01:06:14.359 --> 01:06:16.340
[SPEAKER_02]: Statlander ended up taking out Jamie Hayder.

01:06:17.200 --> 01:06:32.608
[SPEAKER_02]: She hit a stattery night fever, but then she'd up broke up the pin with a kendo stick shot, and then hater grabs the stick, and she drags sheated to the outside, and there's a double close line spot with them, and that left Tecla in the ring was fatlander.

01:06:32.988 --> 01:06:37.270
[SPEAKER_02]: Tecla hits the stump, covers for the pinfall to retain the title just in.

01:06:38.923 --> 01:06:41.905
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, solid match, kind of exactly what you wanted to be.

01:06:42.345 --> 01:06:44.326
[SPEAKER_01]: The MVP of this match for me was Hater.

01:06:44.406 --> 01:06:46.867
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought she looked absolutely incredible.

01:06:47.668 --> 01:06:54.591
[SPEAKER_01]: And then obviously, they're continuing the story here between Shida and Statlander, which, kind of say, not all that interested in.

01:06:55.132 --> 01:07:01.095
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the story was, you know, all four of these women are or have been world champions.

01:07:01.395 --> 01:07:04.096
[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, one of these is not like the others.

01:07:08.662 --> 01:07:11.286
[SPEAKER_00]: I apologize to Patron J. Schmitz.

01:07:11.927 --> 01:07:12.909
[SPEAKER_00]: Tecla is really good.

01:07:15.473 --> 01:07:16.314
[SPEAKER_02]: She's really good.

01:07:16.674 --> 01:07:19.418
[SPEAKER_02]: I was stunned like when you had that take on unplugged really good.

01:07:19.438 --> 01:07:20.200
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about Tecla.

01:07:20.220 --> 01:07:20.801
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what?

01:07:21.962 --> 01:07:28.949
[SPEAKER_00]: I must have talked to her, I caught her probably back to back weeks when she probably might have had her two worst weeks in the champion.

01:07:29.229 --> 01:07:30.651
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm serious.

01:07:30.691 --> 01:07:42.802
[SPEAKER_02]: The reason that I was surprised was because you're such a fan of New Japan, and I just feel like her style and the hearting, I was like, oh, man, this is right up, Jessie's right up, but yeah, man, she's phenomenal.

01:07:43.257 --> 01:08:05.768
[SPEAKER_00]: she's been great ever since in her characters been arguably the best part of outer and yeah she's easily elevated herself to that well maybe just a hair below that Mercedes and Tony category but she's one of the more interesting things on the entire show and she's like hands down the best thing in the women's division right now and they're in desperate need of something.

01:08:06.388 --> 01:08:09.211
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, right, right, winner here, I do agree.

01:08:09.631 --> 01:08:14.435
[SPEAKER_00]: I love watching Jamie Hater and Chris Stattlander in the ring together to how physical they are.

01:08:15.056 --> 01:08:21.401
[SPEAKER_00]: I even, I think that really adds an element to the show here, but yeah, don't really have much else to say.

01:08:21.461 --> 01:08:24.484
[SPEAKER_00]: Other than the fact that I was actually surprised how good the match was.

01:08:24.744 --> 01:08:25.525
[SPEAKER_00]: Three and a half for me.

01:08:25.845 --> 01:08:26.005
[SPEAKER_00]: And,

01:08:27.006 --> 01:08:32.949
[SPEAKER_00]: And on any other car, you're like, hey, probably right in the middle, maybe in the top quarter, and here you're going, this might be like third from the bottom.

01:08:33.489 --> 01:08:33.709
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

01:08:34.750 --> 01:08:35.150
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

01:08:35.730 --> 01:08:38.671
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's just because, yeah, the show was just unreal.

01:08:39.372 --> 01:08:41.853
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely unreal, but yeah, I really like this match.

01:08:41.913 --> 01:08:42.193
[SPEAKER_02]: I did.

01:08:42.333 --> 01:08:46.275
[SPEAKER_02]: So that is double or nothing.

01:08:46.315 --> 01:08:49.496
[SPEAKER_02]: I see Brittany's asking, who would we like to see, D Throne Tecla?

01:08:49.596 --> 01:08:53.738
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that is a tough call right now, because we talked about Athena,

01:08:57.042 --> 01:09:01.305
[SPEAKER_02]: But you'd have to probably, I don't know, could they do that match?

01:09:02.146 --> 01:09:04.247
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're working like double heel there.

01:09:05.468 --> 01:09:11.312
[SPEAKER_02]: You'd have to do some character changing for Athena coming up to the main roster, but I mean, potentially you could do that, I guess.

01:09:11.872 --> 01:09:22.980
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to me, the story is Mercedes, you know, the one championship that she hasn't been able to get her hands on and kind of her redemption story after, you know, the past year.

01:09:23.301 --> 01:09:25.322
[SPEAKER_02]: So you gotta turn her face when she comes back.

01:09:26.923 --> 01:09:33.565
[SPEAKER_01]: which I think that'd be easy to do considering like, you know, she actually dropped all the titles that she could of the ones that she had.

01:09:34.126 --> 01:09:38.327
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the crowd would really appreciate that kind of care.

01:09:39.728 --> 01:09:40.728
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I agree with you.

01:09:40.748 --> 01:09:42.029
[SPEAKER_02]: That probably makes the most sense.

01:09:42.829 --> 01:09:48.491
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that I think that she struggled a bit to be a face throughout her career.

01:09:48.991 --> 01:09:49.971
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like we would always

01:09:54.703 --> 01:09:58.524
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the character Sasha Banks is such, it's just a heel character.

01:09:58.544 --> 01:10:00.205
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't really work as a baby face.

01:10:00.225 --> 01:10:07.027
[SPEAKER_02]: And then like when she came in here once they turned her heel, she hit another stride and it was really good.

01:10:08.188 --> 01:10:09.948
[SPEAKER_02]: Give it a try again, I guess, and see what happens.

01:10:10.008 --> 01:10:14.150
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, yeah, definitely from the heel face dynamic, you're gonna have to do that.

01:10:14.270 --> 01:10:16.911
[SPEAKER_02]: But it would be a huge match, her and Tecla.

01:10:17.571 --> 01:10:22.813
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see, well, see if she's the wild card or not, we don't know this wild card is gonna be.

01:10:24.356 --> 01:10:28.137
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it sounds like Syrie's gonna wrestle all by the way in the Owen.

01:10:28.357 --> 01:10:31.379
[SPEAKER_00]: So Persephone I still think is a question mark.

01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.360
[SPEAKER_00]: So we could see two women that are unknown at this moment.

01:10:35.080 --> 01:10:47.124
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think with Tecla being such a hot heel at the moment and there isn't that superior baby face from a women's standpoint right now Mercedes falls into that role and I think the crowd's ready to embrace her too.

01:10:48.265 --> 01:10:49.545
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's fair.

01:10:51.167 --> 01:11:00.871
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01:12:27.267 --> 01:12:30.331
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