Pro Wrestling Match of the Year So Far, Forbidden Door Build

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[UNKNOWN]: Let me continue with it.

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[UNKNOWN]: It is no fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The better it is, the better it was, and the better it will be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're back here in my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The boom of the clock.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not rich news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: episode 419 of Top Rope Nation, I'm your host tonight, Jesse Velaskas, side by side with Justin joint, how are you and this Monday night?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, besides for me being a moron, I'm doing pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I apologize to anybody out there who was waiting for us at our scheduled start time of eight, 15 and I just forgot to hit joint.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was in the what I thought the waiting room waiting for Jesse to let me in and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah, that was on me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My bad guys and gals life happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: EMBA finals happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what we're blaming things on tonight Let's do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's blame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's blame that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would there's a lot going on in New York right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a two point game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a 10 point game a little bit earlier so for those who were watching on a side screen

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tonight is going to be super free flowing, going to chat quite a bit of A, W, a little bit of match of the year conversation, it may be a quick little like two questions for Justin in terms of a greatest wrestler ever list, which was fully announced a couple of weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That being said, let's roll with this first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: TR and Patrons, as always, thank you so much for your support.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just finished recording ECW Barely Legal 97 last Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say it was a solid show little over two hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had the worst and it was fun

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[SPEAKER_01]: got to see Terry Funk and all his glory and cut open a vein.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was brutal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So shout out to all the patrons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We thank you for the feedback Ryan's been doing a little bit of merch, hawking as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Made some top rope nation inspired or some ECW inspired top rope nation gear all the way down to the nine's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have a rock glass in order here very, very soon on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Ryan will probably be sending out his voting process for June's classics here, very, very soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is unable to join us this evening, so it's just going to be the two of us, and as we said, this is going to be super-free flowing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, here we...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are about three weeks away from AEW's Forbidden Door and the build has been very slow outside of the oven, which I think should probably be the of the utmost importance when it comes to that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin, I know you had a couple of things specifically on last week's dynamite if you want to hit on those right away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're just um

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing major.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope they continue with these interactions between Leo Rush and Congomeration, the fact that

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you stay still, Leo Rush can't see you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought was dumb in hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that group in Leo is kind of a perfect combination.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for as much as I enjoyed the show, I mean, MJF and Rouge knocked it out of the park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that match was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Osprey and Mark Davis was absolutely incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those rare matches where a bunch of run-ins doesn't bother me, and if anything adds to the match, but my nitpicks, I got two of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess I'm going to start with the minor one first, and let me know what you think, Jesse, because we've been for months now trying to forecast what we assume the big matches for all in

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[SPEAKER_00]: My assumption is that Tecla is going to be the Women's World Champion going into all in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my assumption was that Mercedes Monet would be her challenger, because with Tony's storm on the shelf,

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[SPEAKER_00]: that to me kind of felt like the biggest match they got.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was kind of expecting Mercedes to come back as a baby face or at least more of a baby face because she had all those titles and unlike prior wrestlers who have accumulated a bunch of different belts, she dropped the vast majority or at the very least made an effort to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she just didn't vacate them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but she really wrestled like a heal on Wednesday against Alec Windsor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was very surprised that especially the way it ended with her not relinquishing the submission hold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that just kind of has me question is to what the heck are we going to do for all in?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, obviously there's

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[SPEAKER_00]: and maybe they're just testing the waters with her to see what kind of fan reaction she'll get throughout the weeks, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I was just expecting a little bit more of a baby face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How about you, Jesse?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would agree with 90% of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if she wrestled heel because Alex Windsor has been the baby face for the last handful of month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's the only reason she wrestled that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's wrestling, Hazuki, who I would probably consider neutral.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much baby face attention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's going to garner from an AEW crowd considering she wrestles overseas and how good it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she defeated Persephone on Saturday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a battle of the two CMLL champions, the main and I just didn't notice until today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a CMLL Japan champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just learned that now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very, very small world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just looking over the results on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is a rematch from a couple of years ago, New Japan strong when most of you faced off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was an excellent match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Monet ended up winning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she did, and she, it was really odd with her not relinquishing the whole afterward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that her, I was just going to say, and that is a very he-lish thing in wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's one thing to kind of wrestle like a heel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We see baby faces do that all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shit, we watch that for decades with Hulk Hogan, where he was the biggest baby facing the world, but wrestled like a heel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just to see her not let go of the hold is just like, I guess that she's just going to

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Dante, who was there in Richmond, Virginia, and gave us the report that said the Mercedes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People were in shock that she showed up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which was amazing to me because I I thought writing was on the wall that she was going to show up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know who else it could have possibly been in that spot with the tag team division being tied up with a couple of names that I could have thrown in there, but maybe a Brit baker, but even then it's like, oh, that's yeah, that's not the way to go right now in 2026.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought Mercedes was obvious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dante said the crowd was surprised and it sounded like it when she came out she got a good a really good reaction good reception But then like you said confused us by wrestling a heelish style So it's good nippic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean I guess I guess you go Athena when in the Owen Harton advancing because didn't didn't Mercedes knock out Athena last year In the cup so my final sip

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think part of the reason why some fans weren't expecting it to be Mercedes is because some fans, me kind of included thought that maybe Alex Windsor could be somebody to go on to Wembley Stadium and challenge for the women's title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, when you have like a mystery wild card coming in, you assume they're gonna win, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, now at this point, I would assume Alex Windsor and Jamie Hater maybe challenge for the tag titles at Wembley instead, uh, but that just leaves, you know, what will be the women's title match and what is Mercedes going to be doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: an excellent question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have not had a women's repeat winner, men's repeat winner either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, this is the fifth year of the Owen Hart Cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had repeat finalists in the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a repeat finalist this year in the men's side of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The finalist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Will aspirin was in the finals of the cup last year in last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you're saying both guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought like a repeat of the final.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and oh, and paying man's home state for genius, well, with MJF called out that told Justin Roberts to announce that he can never challenge for the title again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just to remind everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean, you got that in the oven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still would lean Mercedes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know if Athena's at over yet as much as I would like to see Athena get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they've got a lot of work to do on the women's side

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got faith that they can do that and speaking of at least trying to have faith in a storyline, Jesse, scratching my fucking head as to why Kevin Knight had to join the Don Calus family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let me, number one, I like the Don Calus family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that it's just this giant group of heels and it's not like one major heel and then just a bunch of jobbers it's like we got you know upper mid-carters to many vendors all over the place there, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: man, I was really hoping for something different with Kevin Knight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a real let down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially the way they did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just like kind of non-chalantly announced that he's joining the group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And especially made worse with them like the previous week kind of tease and maybe some different alliances.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and especially the one I was hoping for would be Kevin Knight and Swerve joining forces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I have faith that they have a plan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just confusing because like Kyle Fletcher had already made overtures that he wanted his TNT title back, but now

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the TNT title is in the group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not that, you know, Don Cals is constantly making his guys fight each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we just, you know, Takeshina Akata as a prime example.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, that just feels like kind of treading over the old same story lines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know, that was a real, uh, wind out of the sales moment for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don Callis was so excited that his teeth fell out when he had to go on with the commentary team got a kick out of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The newest member of the family so it looks with the direction of Kyle Flesher though it looks like him and Kit Kit to Kesher be battling down the line here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a possible all in match, which highly recommend that one, G's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: don't have to twist my arm at all this only on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are two of the best in ringworkers going zero question there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Kevin night super confusing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have definitely gone this way of strickland route too, especially because they've been linked since the beginning of the year when sort of like, when you're going to join the dark side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what's going on with you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kevin finally does it and doesn't seem really seem like, yeah, they didn't really make a pitch for it, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's just a cool factor with both of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with the Don Callous family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say the only person in there who has some cool factors on Draw Day, where everybody else is like, even someone like Kyle Fletcher, who I love is just kind of a dork.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're all kind of dorks in a way, which, you know, I love them for it, but man, it just, man, Kevin Knighton, Swarrow felt kind of destined.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It did, and not only that, I would say that Kevin Knight, other than maybe two or three of his signature moves wrestled like a heel against Mike Bailey, which I enjoyed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, totally agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got to scale back a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm assuming that is not the end of their feud because you break up a pretty damn good tag team like jet speed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you throw it away with one match on TV with two weeks notice, it's not really the greatest of looks, but I can definitely look past it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of and sandwiched in between other kind of higher profile matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It really didn't get a spotlight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would've almost preferred to see that headline

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, prime example, you guys got to see Ocada and Kevin night at collision in Iowa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, sir.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's match of that week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we were just talking about this in their discord about, you know, wanting collision to be put up on a little bit higher for pedestal or you know, at least more even with dynamite and that would have been a way to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Put a prime match like that on TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has its moments where it is on par with a dynamite, case in points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the only one I have saved on my sling DVR is the Christmas edition of Collision when it was the last day of the C2 before, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of the, that is probably the best top to bottom collision in the history of the company.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think you're gonna get much arguments from me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, now I've stopped my head, I can't think of one better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because i mean there's been great moments there's been great matches i mean we could go over and over with that with mjf and omega ftr and j white shoes robinson in the two out of three falls tag um is amazing i mean punk is even had a couple of moments on on collision at a good match with Ricky Stark's

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, puns a moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you would like to see collision get elevated a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it also gets thrown into that Thursday times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lot on occasion when Case in point to mean the MBA and NHL playoffs have just moved to the finals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're seeing less of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, just that consistency get it on a weeknight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That might be the best way to go there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just it felt like they have this set number of

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[SPEAKER_00]: People, they want in the Don Cowles family, like this quota, they have to meet, you know, to catch those out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got to bring somebody else in, you know, feels like Andrade could be leaving soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I've got faith that there is a plan and we just kind of need to let it play out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least that's what I'm keeping my fingers crossed for because otherwise, a very uninspiring choice to have him go in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and why would anybody who has those aspirations want to join the Don Calis family?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that has not bore any fruit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like no one in that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but I mean, Andre, I would say is one, but again, he's probably on the way out soon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Cotta's never really threatened to try to take the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fletcher has mentioned it kind of, but not really, to cash it ahead that title shot against Darby Allen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That might have been, like, one of the two best matches, I think that Darby had during that run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're right, that hasn't been a super focal points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and now let's actually head to somebody from the Don Calus family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember making a comment about, uh, yeah, the dynamite in 2025, I went to when Mark Davis had a wrestling match and I can't remember who was against.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, you know, actually kind of impressed me on this night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mark Davis, like, I have no idea why, and we fast forward now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that he wrestled a little aspirate who can make anybody look good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, I think Davis, the last couple of months, has taken a couple of steps forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's been rock solid this entire year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So far, you know, they started with the tag team with him and Doyle, which unfortunately didn't last very long, but they kept him in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a really good match with Hangman earlier in the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a good match with Moxley earlier in the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they can just kind of put him in there with anybody and he's going to be rocks at both the Osprey matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought we're fantastic, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, just picture it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Mark Davis doesn't get hurt, Aussie open, it might still be a thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you pressure that tag team division and how sorely needed that team would be, but you wouldn't get that Kyle, the Kyle Fletcher emergence right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that would be a good use for all these members of Don Cal's family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just put a couple of them together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Haven't go after the tag titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a little late.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think for a Fletcher and Davis to re-unite because I mean it would be easy to throw them into the tag team title picture have them win it Hold it for a good four to six months and then move on especially if you have plans for we mentioned the other guy that Davis Russell will aspirate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Fletcher is the next in line to take it If of course that happens still Yeah, yeah, isn't it weird or maybe not weird, but surprising that

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[SPEAKER_00]: of the quote unquote big men in AEW that Mark Davis got singles gold before Brody King.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if I had told you that like a month ago, two months ago, I think he would have been pretty shocked by that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a little worried about Brody King right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of my favorites, but it seems like he gets micro pushes just to lose to somebody bigger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He need, well, I was gonna say he needs that one big win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had it against MJF in two minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I don't really count that, you know, because it was so sure, I still executed perfectly, but I don't really feel like that counts as a big win when it was really just a set up for, you know, Grand Slam Australia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, then I'll ask you this question because there's another guy, a former, well, I was gonna say a former tag team partner of his, but it wasn't Mark Brisco.

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[SPEAKER_01]: whoops to be next in line for at least the title shot against mjf and his signature win was against mjf at all out last year in the uh... the tables and tax match yes he's almost in that similar situation with brody king however the one thing he does have over brody is he's held the tnt championship

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Mark definitely feels more bulletproof and can eat way more losses without hurting his credibility, just because he's been around for fucking what 30 years it feels like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is just

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know they're gonna have a great match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I can't imagine any scenario where Mark Briscoe takes the title from MJF, but it's kind of a good stop gap until we get to the next step and to whatever this reign of MJF is gonna look like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think this goes all the way to forbidden door?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Mark Briscoe and MJF.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had an inkling at first that somebody from outside was going to challenge MJF and now I don't see that anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got to feel in this year where we might not be seeing all that much from other promotions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if we do it, probably primarily be CMLL, I would guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because like, you know, we were talking, Oh, shoot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I have lost my train of thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A big match that

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[SPEAKER_00]: you had mentioned for all in, oh, a fletcher and Takeshta.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't, I think that'll be a forbidden door match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jeez, that's way too soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: way too soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's uh, that's the positive thing about AWS, which is a weird thing to say, is you still have guys that haven't touched and wrestled each other in the course of seven years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still in your back pocket somehow, even though we're like, oh, you might have wasted that when, oh, you might have wasted that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They still pull something out of the back pocket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, with a W unlike, you know, a certain other promotion, a lot of their stories,

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[SPEAKER_00]: A big part of them is multiple matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just promos in the ring where they, you know, talk for 10 to 15 minutes, you know, you're usually going to get a lot of matches in these big feuds, and that's, you know, part of the way they tell stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's the way it should be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get, you don't get as much 50, 50 booking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think in AEW, you do get some of it, but not nearly as much as the other American promotion right now where it's almost telegraph that they're gonna do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've seen Swerve get two consecutive wins against Hangman page.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen Jay White when a whole bunch against Hangman and Hangman never get it back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not afraid and I think that was something I used to criticize them for was not putting the big guys head to head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I think Tony Collins showing a little bit less trepidation in putting two guys together that you don't think should lose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, also giving somebody two consecutive wins against that guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking, I mean, I guess this isn't two consecutive wins, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had two swarve and omega matches this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Both on just national TV, not even on paper view.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's definitely not afraid of putting those out there for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just saw a bump in our viewership shout out to all of you out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't hesitate through something in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We actually got hit up with more super chats last week than I think we've had ever on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, if you'd like to contribute, you know, certainly can do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But don't feel obligated to do so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, where was I going to go with a W?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go back to Brody King because just because you mentioned him, you know he's

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[SPEAKER_01]: their match of level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was revolution.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they're going to do it again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like you said, there's no way he's winning, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is definitely gearing up for Swarve and Osprey 2 or would it be 3, 3, correct?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those guys, yeah, and Swarve holds a win and they'd had a 30-minute draw on TV.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a rematch I forebidden door from two years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: From when Swarve was World Champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: defending against Will Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, unfortunately, I don't see any way Brody King wins this, but gosh, I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope they have something for him to chew on the rest of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they don't, would you not, would you mind them going back to Brody Do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I was just wearing my brody to sure yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I would have zero problems with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: especially since you just split up jet speed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we think we can quickly bounce the tag team division.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We think a couple of new teams will be coming in very early August, at least one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're really hinting at it now with being the elite in the young bucks a couple of times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think in like consecutive sentences saying the words new day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that, I guess that's probably the issue with maybe one to go back to Brodito is it's a good issue because it does feel like, you know, the tag team division is slowly starting to get rolling and I don't see how they're going to fit into the championship scene with Copen Cage and FTR and Youngbox.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That feels like those three are going to at least eat up the rest of the summer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yep, and then it's just a matter of the fall because we don't think that Coping Christian are going to retain we would assume that one of the two the other teams are going to wrestle back those tag titles and we'll see what happens with Coping Christian from there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost irrelevant to think at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you know come the fall we'll probably be looking at you know whoever is the champ feudant with new day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see I know we're forecasting it but how they're going to be presented.

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[SPEAKER_00]: same same very much that's going to be very interesting because you know there's only so much they can take uh copyright-wise from their WWE run

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and it just, for better or worse, you know, that music was such a big part of the presentation of the new day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so AW has been fantastic for the most part of coming up with music that really fits the characters on their own, you know, people that have jumped ship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, not too worried about it, but yeah, very curious just like you, how they're gonna be presented.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing I'm most curious about is the in-ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, especially with Xavier, because I never felt like he truly got a chance to go in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kofi, I'm not too worried about, you know, he's kind of getting up there in age two, but uh, he'll be able to do his thing, but Xavier's the one who I think has another gear to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope so, I really do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I said it about a month ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yeah, give that to the singles run somehow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A roster is full of just talent though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be hard for him to kind of carbonation there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You to take advantage of the of the fresh car smell when you, when you walk into a W like to muscle, champ it did prime example.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because we're he is right now, unfortunately, stuck with a thousand four reasons why he hates Chris Jericho.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure some of us might have listed those reasons in there too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's on my, you know, he's on one of my matches for match of the year so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's get to that in about one minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to go back to forbidden door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a Techler probably wrestling a

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then outside of that, though, like you just said, it could be fluttered to cash it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got Osprey Swerve.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: M. J. F. Briscollic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You said, possibly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it feels like to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, uh, would they do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mystico and MJF again?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I had pinned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially in San Jose, California.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because Mystico beat him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in arena mexico correct yes he did so maybe this is be a way for mjf to get his win back but boy not a lot of time to do this quick mark brisco feud and then jump into something else right away but yeah i don't know what other do you do think we're gonna be seeing any new japan guys at forbidden door

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a possibility, and the only reason that I do is that the Chicago or Chicago is hosting day one of the G1 climax.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, there'll be states, I'd... A couple of them will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How to imagine so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It might be a couple of guys that maybe they're not heading back for Dominion, because Dominion will be maybe a few days before the G1 starts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd imagine, like, probably July 5th, I would assume, yeah, because that's on a Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that the one that Osprey is going to miss because he's getting married?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That could be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a July 5th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was maybe July 16th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember what day, but it was right around that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, heaven, Alex Windsor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That could be part of the reason why Windsor is not getting a push towards the, oh, women's championship that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's kind of a no-brainer now that you said that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And also I don't think she's ready either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, and then I think the last one we can talk about before match of the year is another guy who's been bulletproof this year John Moxley Like there's he loves his interactions with Japanese performers, so like who they throw at him if

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I selfishly would love a little shingo to Kagi love and have them just battle it out for about 20 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't hate that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be down for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, honestly, we'll kind of get to this with our match of the year is I have not really been locked in with New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't have a great feel for for where everybody is at and how they could connect with the AEW side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like I always point people to speaking of strong style, Stephen Conway and Jeremy Findstone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That has actually become a weekly listen for me on rotation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just wrapped up the best of the super junior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when we're going to get a full focal point on the heavy weights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you, did you get to watch any of it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the super junior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, yeah, many either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had an underwhelming winner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, yeah, that's what I heard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, bummer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it sounded like Nick Wayne had a pretty good performance in the best of the super junior.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was good to hear not even of legal drinking age yet, it's wild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been in the perf, he's been in the promotion for now three years, which is nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's nowhere near his potential, not even close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, when do you like, does he turn 24?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it's like, all right, give this kid a, a main event push.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's still four years down the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's what's going to be interesting if you can beef up a little bit because I mean he's got decent height to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's got to be what you think he's he taller than Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's a really good question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe like I would guess same I would guess same height same height.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to look that up real quick here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the assumption for me would be six one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, fucking Wikipedia has Will Osprey listed at 6-1 and there's no fucking way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you both, you and Ryan both have said he's shorter than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am

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[SPEAKER_00]: 510, when I'm being generous to myself, I'll say, say 511, and I've walked right by Will Osprey, and I'm pretty sure he's shorter than me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I definitely don't buy 6-1, where we could get something accurate from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then Nick Wayne is definitely taller than Will Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: still's elevated heels in the boots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wikipedia has him at 6-1-2, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd guess both of them around 5-9.

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[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could look at it, I would think Wayne doesn't look like I would.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His mom looks taller than he does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His mom looks taller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because she looms tall in my thought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a phenomenal transition.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It do the match of the year contenders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're not quite six months in yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not quite to the halfway point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Osprey and Swirb is the only match left this, I think in this month that has a shot at getting thrown this match of the year contendership category.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, if it happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but thus far just in there have been some really really good ones for me there hasn't

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's probably been like two or three standouts, but it's also three matches I think that are lesser than what we've seen in the last couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, give me some of your thoughts so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the interesting thing to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, there is, then I guess, just to warn anybody that's out there listening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My wrestling viewership has been very limited this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I officially gave up on WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there'd be no WWE matches on my list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Japan has just not grabbed my attention enough except for one match, so I've not watched very much New Japan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really haven't had time for CMLL, but so basically my entire list would be exclusively AW in preparation for this pot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of thinking back, I'm looking at

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just talking A, W, there are probably a dozen matches that I have loved that are right around that four star range, if not higher, but truly nothing to me feels like it has a real chance to be match of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A, W, wise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because for me, I want something great in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in the moment and has legs for the future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like a lot of these A, W match, especially some of the stuff on Dynamite, kind of just feels like one off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just, I don't feel like that has the, the oomph to put it in that match to the year category.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'll just like the first Swerve Omega match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it, but doesn't really feel like a match to the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Darby Champa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was amazing, loved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, that was more about like another signifier that holy crap, this A-W version of champs and credible and it was the first signifier of what this Derby title reign was gonna look like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it, I'm not quite as high as other people on O'Connor, Tequesta, the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Amazing, what else did I have?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Swerve Bandito is a possible candidate, just because that is part of the Owen Hart Cup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it has significance, happened on a paper view and it was just a match I loved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there was stuff in that match that I had not seen before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those two jelled amazingly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The match didn't overstay its welcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It left me want more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bandito, we said this for a long time, the argument could be made that he is the best entering wrestler of the past year, and I'm not just talking 26, and all the way back to 2025.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Darby de Cechta is another one, but I would kind of lump that in with Darby Champa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where it was just kind of part of this bigger, Darby storyline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great match, but a year from now, is it one we're really gonna think of that much?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for me, it clears day, match of the year, O'Conno-Tanahashi from Wrestle Kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It gave me the feels,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really doubted that Tanahashi still had that level of match in him, but, you know, he saved just enough in the tank to put on that kind of show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, you know, Okada's on my list twice, so he's having just an absolutely incredible year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like the Okada of New Japan is finally arrived in AEW this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: just a world-class performance from both of them on one of the biggest stages you'll have, the brightest spotlight, perfect sendoff for Tana Hashi, all the fields, that pretty easily my match of the year so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You hit on a good chunk of, well, a few of the, like the ones I wanted to talk about, I'm going to go to from the WWE Roman Reigns C. Impunk, their main event in Wrestlemania 42 was very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would mean that's the WWE promotional match of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that a little bit more than the triple A match of the year, the El Grande Americano's, which is getting a lot of press right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It should be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think that's a touch over rated to convolution, kind of adds things up in my book and like it either adds or subtracts to the match and it definitely subtracted from that one for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the

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[SPEAKER_01]: story in the crowd response will tell completely different responses because there's a lot of people out there like a holy crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been that emotionally invested in a WWE match in ages and it was something triple A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be the most WWE thing ever for have the match of the year in triple A to be between two white guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give Ludwig Chrysler credit for speaking Spanish, and he's pretty close to fluent these days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, I think that's the good reason why Hispanic fans have drawn to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's speaking Mexican Spanish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a difference folks between Spanish, Spanish, and Mexican Spanish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A. W. There's one match that I wanted to mention because you mentioned Bandito and is in ring prowess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This as a for a match for being a match on droughty and bandito was oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That might be my favorite match in A. W. So far this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you were going to say another one I forgot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bandito and MJF.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which was very good too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had a handful of others.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We mentioned Hangman M.J. F. I liked a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the way that it ended.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That there was just we talked about it in the review.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Too much in the middle for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love the start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love to the finish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just drug on drug on to all two on which you know it's funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's why I love MJF's TV matches so much because he does have the time constraint that he just can't go for 40 minutes just because that's what they think of you know a paper view may even should be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which, like, you know, the same thing, double or nothing, where the time constraints kept, you know, the main event from going too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was a nice tight 23 minutes for an AEW paper view match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I, boy, MJF, knocked him out of the park on TV this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, character wise too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the three guys that are standing out for me are in ring, are three guys you mentioned already, you nailed it, Bandito, Takeshita, Okada.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because there was another Takeshina.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it was, uh, Takeshina's match with John Moxley at Revolution.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was Revolution as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That has super slow build to it and just hit a crescendo and they were just, yeah, that length was perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is definitely in the argument for AWS match of the year as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, match that I loved because these two of great chemistry, Kyle Fletcher's B-ball Mike Bailey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also on a dynamite, Darby Kevin Knight, I mean, like anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Darby related.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say, yeah, I would actually lump Darby in there with Bandito de Cesta and Ocada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ocada is just, he's a,

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[SPEAKER_00]: For the paper view matches, he absolutely brings it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in the collision match with Kevin I'd I saw he was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just from a TV to TV for a dynamite, I still think Bandito Derby to Keshtar are a level above him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's probably just effort.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm sure he's saving himself for those big matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, absolutely has to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's taken so many bumps in New Japan, some of that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Today is, well, overseas it is in three hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the anniversary of Okada Omega from Dominion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people's greatest match every two out of three falls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, how I managed to stay awake for that and watch it alive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was starting to nod in the first 25 minutes and I like started running around the room a little bit It was well worth it in the end, but yeah, a lot of yeah that match was incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look at this list right now, Fletcher and Champa had a singles match on

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dina might shop another name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you mentioned it for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has to be Tana Hashi in Ocada from Wrestle Kingdom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 40,000 fans in a time where New Japan is not drawing whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just sold their TV rights for I heard this on the radio and on a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe

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[SPEAKER_01]: Think of like a w. You would think like they're get out $185 million a year WWE's almost in the close to the billions right now You should pan $22 million Wonder what they would have gotten in their hide.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just obviously I don't I don't have a good feel for You know the the Japanese economy especially when it comes to new Japan or in pro wrestling in general, you know

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's down right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the biggest mistakes they made, which we've said is that the the Ospreys, the O'Cottas, the J whites, they all left, but they also didn't put any of the young guys over out the door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, to just throw back one of the best rivalries, it will for sure this century.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in New Japan, Okada and Tanahashi, it's almost impossible for them to have a bad match, even if Tanahashi's knees are older than my dad's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that match is incredible, like I already said, just what he was able to do considering those old knees.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I think, yeah, we're definitely unanimous in that aspect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'd be curious to hear Ryan's take on his match of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there's been some ratings in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's thrown that it'd been close to five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was hiring on O'Cotta to cash it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that anybody, that I know, well, other than Meltzer, of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, yeah, Meltzer's another thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was, it was, it was the last six, seven minutes was absolutely perfect, just pitch perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: start to finish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I could quite get to those five stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Kada as a heel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Plaint that night and just doing some of the things that he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The maniorisms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what that's what's vastly underrated of virtue for because each go Kada are his facials and his selling ability.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, phenomenal stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got one question for you on this GW list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll just leave.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am looking at two guys that are separated by two spots on my list this is your list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're separated by 29 according to the 485 voters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It took place in this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who would you take?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ray Mysterio or Shawn Michaels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is the time frame for this list?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, it's the whole career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sean Lang, Sean Lang, you're a Sean Michaels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad, by quite a bit, actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, it's the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I mean, for one, he was, uh, true blue,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I love Rey Mysterio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is one of the greatest luches of all time, but for the vast majority of his career, especially speaking, WCW and WB,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a midcarder, you know, they gave them a little cup of coffee with the, with the world title, think twice, you know, the first time felt very much like this one's for Eddie, maybe not so much for Ray.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the second time, I think he won it and lost it one night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, obviously not a great promo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is not really his thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sean probably overrated in the promo department, but he's still really good in, I mean, just, asshole Sean from the mid to late 90s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just some of the best stuff in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It made wrestling more entertaining than it had any right to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: From his feud with Brett to, you know, the click and their curtain call and MSG, but I mean, you think about classic moments and matches and I just feel Sean's got Ray Beat by Miles, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Both of them have probably inspired, you know, an entire generation in different ways, but man, Sean is, I mean, he's, to me, he was special, special.

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[SPEAKER_01]: his career span, so he missed for 20 years, 21 years, it's like 80, 485 until 2010 and he missed four years in between there, the 21 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: race still go on and he's in the thirties, which is nuts, and he's missed a couple of years too with all the injuries that he had taken place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's junior heavyweight lower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's considered to be probably one of the three greatest junior heavyweights that's ever lived a green by throw liger in that conversation and somebody else in there if you want to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And beloved, not only in Mexico, but also the United States,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Michael's prime to me was better, yes, like you mentioned like 90 late 95 until very early 98 when taker busted his back like that those years overtake a lot of things so that's that ray did like ray for me is known for ray eddy Halloween have a 97 yeah I mean that's when

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I think of Ray Mysterio, it's that, you know, but that was a long time ago, early in his career and it kind of felt like the highlight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he is undoubtedly an icon, but an icon like that shouldn't so easily get lost in the shuffle, like he has so many times in his career, especially with WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, you're 100% right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because he he had good fudes with Eddie Guerrero later on in 2005.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I keep going back to Eddie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, Sean was able to go with Brett to go with Diesel, pull some stuff out of the hat with him, said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, take her for whatever reason they had tremendous chemistry together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if those last two WrestleMania matches are overrated, I think there are a little bit, but they're still, they're still classics.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so so many more moments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I need to almost revamp my list here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually had Ray Mysterio higher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming then you have any higher than both of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I sure do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK. That now that's an interesting conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eddie and Sean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do you have that him a lot higher?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go, uh, not a lot, but okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I have Eddie five spots higher than Ray and seven spots higher than Sean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's not too bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not too bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you going to say something like 20 spots or something?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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[SPEAKER_00]: what is most valuable to you as an individual like there's also the question of the Michael Jordan and LeBron James discussion of do you value a shorter but higher peak?

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[SPEAKER_00]: or do you value more longevity, but maybe not quite as high of a peak?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, Rock is one of the biggest stars in professional wrestling history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is miles ahead of Eddie Guerrero in that department.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially when you think about wrestlers in the industry, I mean, Eddie is the loved, I mean, just like, I don't think you can watch one week of wrestling without somebody paying some sort of homage to Eddie Guerrero.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, boy, that's a good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Championships, main eventor, stardom, rock scottom, heads and tails, easily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I cared about more would be Eddie Guerrero.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was more my flavor of what I was looking for in professional wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just got done listening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to Squared Circle Gazette.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were covering WWE F in mid to late 2000, and God damn, they played the entire clip of a promo that Eddie cut on China.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sorry, but submit that shit to the Oscars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's that he was that fucking good in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just, I don't know if a wrestler has ever cut that passionate and convincing of a promo that Eddie did in that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, Dwayne is certainly never acted that well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you that much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He played the jealous asshole so well in that promo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, oh yeah, that's a great, quite a lot of these questions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, it's like, for one, how do you grade them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: your personal preference on this kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, that's why, to me, like wrestling has always been subjective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like, I know a lot of people can watch it and be objective, but that's never been my way, because I just watch it too much as a fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I suppose, and maybe not with quite the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the eye of, you know, someone trying to break it down, perhaps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, I would probably give Eddie the slightest of nods.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think his career was longer and more interesting than the rocks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Duane, if you count even the mini runs, was probably around the business in the ring for nine years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's got a count for something because he really wasn't injured.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had one major injury and that was after the WrestleMania 20, no, the WrestleMania 29 match was seen where he busted his ribs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So was it his ribs?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he tore something or he tore his oblique.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, something to do with this midsection.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I went

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, I like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would, uh, I would put Sean in front of the rock, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had rock ahead of him by four spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not envy you having to put together that list because I work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I could ever like put it away for good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'd always be tinkering with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, it comes back up in 10 years if I'm if I'm still around watching wrestling and trying to grade this stuff, I'll do some crazy stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Terry Funk and Brian Daniels and finished one, too, in this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I can argue with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Terry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially just coming off of our classics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Terry Funk was special special.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, I know, I wish we were around for 70s and 80s stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish we had a great Daniel soon and Terry Funkmatch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Geez.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How fucking like a, like, a early mid 2000s, ring of honor match between those two?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Little few, that would have been good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know how they work, promo-wise, they would be just fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How, how would that work in the ring?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Danielson's good enough that he can, you know, he can brawl if he needs to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he could have that kind of match.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's not afraid of getting physical.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what Terry's an easy turn back the clock to like 1982.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Terry fuck number two, I'd be curious how high other people have them or how he kind of grades out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be willing to bet that's about the highest, uh, anybody would have them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I had fun too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Behind Flair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Flair was top five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'd be proud to know the last thing Brett Hart's ranking and this whole thing was,

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[UNKNOWN]: 9.

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[UNKNOWN]: 9.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, can I low in my opinion?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a lot of heavy weight towards Japan here and it's always too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, if you're looking at the American stuff, Brett would have been one, two, three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably been six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK. Yeah, so I don't have higher, but hey, I'm a mark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's wrap this up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This game is looking like it's getting pretty juicy here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is about that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's exactly where I was about to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was our 10 minutes too long GW conversation just throwing some extra stuff together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of AEW discussion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we probably got something special in the works here in the next couple of weeks, so pay attention very very closely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will be going live with an unplugged episode or at least for Spotify and Google next Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So look for that to be unleashed where it'll be probably 40% current 60% retro match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Highly looking forward to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Any other closing thoughts before we go, Mr. Nixon 6.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, uh, look for me wherever Ryan and Jesse tell me to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's where I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Luke's going next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel so weird rooting for the next, but I am too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually kind of hope they lose this game just because of circumstances, but I want them to win the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you have as nix and six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I want nix and five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to close it in MSG.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be six then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't it be five?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought of the middle three games are played in New York.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I thought it was two, two, one, one, one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look it up off the air.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the only thing is, I think it goes two, three, two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every other series goes two, two, one, one, one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will check.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And with that being said, for just enjoy my name as Jesse Velasca's Go Knicks, and that is episode four to 19 of Top Rope Nation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you on the flip side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Peace.