WWE WrestleMania Vegas Tickets Struggling, HHH To Blame?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Leave me to do it, it is no pain!

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[SPEAKER_04]: The better it is, the better it was, and the better it will be.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And you know it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We're back here, in my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The only way to cry, It not reach me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's going on, everybody, up is so four o'clock in the top of nation, Ryan Drosty, Jesse Velasquez, and making his return, Justin joined, Justin, how are you doing tonight?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Finally, a reason to drink on weekdays again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that is the primary reason we have moved the flagship back to a weeknight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just so we can drink on a Monday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the real motivation behind this show.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man, how have you been, man?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's been a while.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It has been, I mean, we talk a little bit, you know, on text threads, and obviously me and Ryan see each other occasionally.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Last time we went and saw the Elvis movie, which was pretty cool, except for the strange resemblance to Donald Trump that all of this bears.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Good, god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw the truth, social post, what a joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody ever has said that to him, ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God, what a troll.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, I'm doing good, man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I miss talking to you guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I miss interacting with our listeners.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Jesse spoke about it on unplugged many times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We've just kind of been going through a funk in a busy period.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, hopefully this is the start of us ramping back up into a more normal schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, Jesse and I talked about revolution last week and I feel like that show got me back into the wrestling group a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'd been in this funk pretty much since the new year and that show got me excited by wrestling again, excited podcast and talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jesse, two weeks in a row, we've done it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're back now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How you doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what we call a streak in the business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're doing, we're doing all right, this is actually the lightest week I've had in this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would definitely say I actually hit a day off today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have most of the day off tomorrow, a crazy Wednesday, off Thursday, and then a crazy Friday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be able to podcast three times this week, spoiler alert.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, very nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love to hear that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Speaking of like, especially for you and me, Ryan, revolution being the spark for getting back into things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I believe we all have some live events coming up that we're going to be going to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that always helps the love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We do, a little A, W, we're going to be going this podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be this week at Dynamite and Collision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess if you see one of us, say hello.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're in the upper Midwest, just you'll be first up at Dynamite, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you excited or what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I actually just bought my tickets today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh wow, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got a what was it buy three get one in the lower half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're in row 10 section E so that might be the section over from the commentary booth.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm getting swirval mega like like I think like everybody has said like dude You're getting swirval mega.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, is I hasn't really hasn't really said in yet I I told my lady I said the main event's gonna be really good So I mean she she hasn't exactly been won over by by pro wrestling just yet I think I've showed her about 40 minutes worth and she's not impressed well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is my converter

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hold on, Swerve and Omega.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, my god for a title shot for the number one contendership.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that is for the EVP position on the line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get some predictions on that, kind of towards the close of the show, because yeah, I think when they announced that match, I think pretty much immediately I was texting you like, oh my god, Jesse, have you seen what you're getting?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If, you know, if we weren't, if we didn't have collision this week in our neck of the woods Justin, I probably would have thought of I going up to that show, somehow some way getting the dynamite and in St. Paul.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, I would have been very tempted myself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, collisions have been pretty solid of late, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully we'll get something pretty nice as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of pretty nice, you see the names scrolling across the bottom of the screen right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why they pay me the big bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All the bonus shows Jesse just teased it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we got Brittany in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give us your thoughts as we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Justin had joked when we talked about moving the flagship back to Mondays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I do say back to Mondays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you guys remember this or not, but when TRN started in 2016, it was Kyle and myself, we recorded on Monday afternoons at the very beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, what's the Monday show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, we have come full circle now, but just in joked, this better not be a prank to get me to do Monday night raw watch along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is not what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Raw is on, but I have not turned it on at all myself tonight, but just I'm I gotta tell you I know it's your first show back in a few weeks We are gonna start with some WWE talk.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I will see you guys in about 30 minutes

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually think you're going to have some thoughts on this because it's it's a topic we've been talking about in the show for like a year and a half and more and more people have been getting on the bandwagon out everybody's talking about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said over a year ago that WWE was going to price out their fans that if anything ended their so-called boom period it was going to be

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[SPEAKER_01]: is not moving tickets like it did last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's multiple reasons for this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The pricing structure has not helped.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Creative has not helped returning to the same city two years in a row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also not the best idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Jesse, I'll go to you first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where do you think this WrestleMania ranks as far as the build to it right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, who do you point the

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is almost, and this will be the last time I use this, like a WCW 2000, 2001 comparison like who killed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're, I think there's multiple people to blame in this, not just one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hunter's Creative has been very poor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't really minded this oba Brock build.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's been solid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The rest though, like Roman and punk and Ripley and Jade Cargill, like the Ripley and Jade Cargill stuff is

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[SPEAKER_00]: really bad if you've watched any of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say endeavor with their ticket prices and another thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think you nail the Ryan that third one will be just back to back years in Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think moving away from one of the best cities in America, New Orleans was a mistake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it WrestleMania 30 was the last time they were there or was there one in between?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 34.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I could have maybe even almost convinced Justin joined to go to WrestleMania if it was in New Orleans this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You could have convinced me to go to New Orleans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he would have been in the vicinity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he had some indie shows at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we talked about the show at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not doing New Orleans was ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially after officially announcing it with the rock on SmackDown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and lastly, you could convince me to go to Minneapolis this summer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to already be here because some summerslam's a two-nighter this year at US Bank Stadium and quite frankly, I'm not interested.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have very little interest unless they show me some of the younger guys being near the top of the card and that doesn't look likely except for maybe Oba.

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[SPEAKER_01]: some thoughts on Oba here in a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also have that on my agenda.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what about you, Justin?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think as far as what is hampering WrestleMania this year?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think you guys have nailed the main points.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's poor booking, which I can't speak to, because I honestly don't know the last time I watched WWE.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I can't speak to that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But high ticket prices going back to the same place where, you know, WrestleMania has always been a destination for its fans, and you know, a lot of them, well, they got the taste of Las Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Why would they want to go back again?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Two years in a row.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and the economy, you know, fucking everything is so expensive right now, and they just seem to be ignoring that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, it still seems like

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[SPEAKER_03]: they have a very dedicated fan base that would spend the money if they could.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that to me, it just screams, it's ticket prices.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, poor booking be damned because frankly even when I was watching it, it was pretty shitty.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they had their hot point with the end of the bloodline and Cody kind of reach in his apex, but, you know, punk coming in, Randy coming back, but my opinion, it's been going downhill for quite a while.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's just weird to me that I don't understand how they didn't see this coming.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they got to have all the metrics, all the information, all the statistics to say, hey, you know, attendance is dropping.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We need to maybe lower prices and for them to ignore that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And if they go into, you know, this giant arena and it's, you know, there's empty seats in everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sure they'll do a great job of covering that up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be a really bad look.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think their fans are going to start to notice that, hey, what what is going on here, you know, even the ones who are dedicated to WWE might start looking up the side piece that's going on over in Jacksonville, which is a pretty hot product right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would say so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, wait, did you say the economy's bad?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I was told that a little over a year ago, things were going to turn around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got worse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you telling me people aren't people are not eager to fly right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you telling me people aren't eager to gas up their cars and drive across the country to take an alternate method there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, forget it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see, those TSA lines lately?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I'm not kidding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I mean, I'm just going to tell you some of the stats here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got Russell ticks pulled up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would highly recommend subscribing to their Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can get it for like two bucks a month and get all the updates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are higher tiers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get more frequent updates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the last update on the tier on them was five days ago for WrestleMania ticket sales.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so this show is just under four weeks away now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: WrestleMania Saturday on April 18th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As of the last update, they have sold 39,425 tickets and look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot of tickets, 39,000, but they have 68,000 seats on the map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: if they sold every seed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And last year for WrestleMania Saturday, which I don't know if you guys remember this, tickets were a little concern last year too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not the first year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They ended up getting 60,000 in the building, but for a while, they were not moving that great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, last year they had 60,151 tickets sold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, they're at 39,000 right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two thirds of that number with a little under four weeks to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For the Sunday show,

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[SPEAKER_01]: they have sold 40,687.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year they had 61,389 for the Sunday show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, about two thirds, they sold a little bit more for Sunday, you know, with punk and rain is going to be headlining that night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to me, punk and rain is like the one match that absolutely feels like a WrestleMania headlighter this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and some more people are going to that by by a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you actually look at the seating charts and like where the seats have sold, you know, and where they have not, I'll just try to share my screen here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This will only benefit those of you on the video.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll try to explain for the podcast listeners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You will see, uh, let's see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully this works and it is a mirror message.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll notice that the blue are the available seats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is for Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most of them are on the lower bowl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The seats are just insanely expensive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you see like straight on from the stage, little lots of seats, corner lots of seats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Looks like they haven't maybe sold on the hard campsite at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless it's just sold out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's hard to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're definitely not selling anything

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[SPEAKER_01]: that is like totally empty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not selling back there because we know it's not set up for the full capacity so that's where those seats are at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I mean, that's what it looks for Saturday as a five days ago at least.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, two things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One, it just tickles me to know and that Mr. Pong, who made a big deal on camera of fans being on camera side when he showed up to WWE to take a little.

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[SPEAKER_03]: stab at AEW is now wrestling to no fans on the camera side.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I find that very funny.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I hate to drop this on you because I don't even know if it's possible.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you know where they were at for sales?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like at this time last year?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like four weeks out, is that something we can find out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can look it up on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you guys talk amongst your eyes, I can definitely pull it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can not complete a few things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Means tonight they're at TD Garden in Boston.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have, they sold 12,400 according to Russell Ticks and John Cena's,

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... intercontinental title when in november sold sixteen two so down three thousand six hundred over the year i know smack downs at about ten thousand and that same building last year think it was also around twelve so i mean they're they're still somewhat healthy they're doing okay

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're not saying they're going out of business, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're going to be strong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but the numbers are definitely declining.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, yeah, go ahead, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just going to say it's more about like, how did they not get in front of this?

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[SPEAKER_03]: How did they not see this coming?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, how did they get to the point where they allowed this to happen?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just beyond me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just hubris.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's all it's got to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think they're just riding the the co-tails two of the John Cena retirement tour.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's a he's a take a draw or no matter what was so would would that have been considered a sellout that TD garden with John Cena 16.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't feel like that is a TD garden.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually have wrestled six on Twitter pulled up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll while you're doing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can or no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just act out of it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, looking at TD Gardens Wiki page, basketball capacity is over 18,000, concerts are 20,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that would make sense, which, well, yeah, and sorry, at the same time, Justin, for the wolves beating the Celtics yesterday in Boston.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I got some data here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like I'm missing the March 28th weekly update from last year, which would I guess were a little behind that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As of April 5 last year, so at that point there were two weeks out from the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had sold 48,000 for Saturday and a 51,000 for Sunday when they were, let's see, 36 days out from the show, so that's a little more than they are right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had sold 44,000 for Saturday, what were they at right now, 39,000?

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[SPEAKER_03]: basically right around 40 30 40 and they had sold 46,000 for Sunday last year and that was again that was 36 days out we are a little we're less than there right now which I guess behind this yeah yeah that definitely behind pace and that does make it sound a little not quite as doomsday as initially but you know the other part of this is they're trying to fucking give these things away you know it's discount after discount

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did the 316 day or whatever, where it was like 31.6% off tickets or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And most of their promotions, they just have not really worked at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still scrolling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to find, you know, when they were at...

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[SPEAKER_01]: 40,000 distributed and look, let me see you here while you're looking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just going to say Total seats of the map last year for that TD garden show was 16,087 and they sold 16,526.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I found for some reason this is not coming up in sequential order like it's supposed to on Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get your shit together, Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I did find the March 21st, 2025 update.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's pretty much exactly where we're at right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they had sold 45,000 for the Saturday show and they

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sunday, they sold 47 and Saturday, they had sold 45.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're about like $1,000 in the line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, total.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're considerably behind where they were last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, I was scrolling back trying to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like how early in the year were they at 40,000 sold for the Saturday show?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, they had way back in January.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had hit 40,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's not a match or marky attraction that can even

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's not dude, I mean, I'm looking at this card again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I said, and yeah, I think one of the big reasons, I think of creative as good, even with the ticker prices, you're going to find the WWE fans to shell out the money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to hurt you a little bit for sure in a stadium that big when you're running two nights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you go back to one night, WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But two nights because you're getting greedy and you're trying to sell double the tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't have creative people are not going to buy tickets to two nights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, looking at the show, Hunk and Reigns does feel like a WrestleMania match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've definitely been critical on the show of punk since his return to WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I've also been complimentary of some of the stuff he's done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I gunked there in him was my favorite match in WWE last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And him and Reigns feels like a WrestleMania match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The promos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first ones were pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rains has looked really bad recently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, you know, like, it's just...

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did hear he called his opponent old, which seems like kind of a no-no in professional wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw a tweet where someone had said something along the lines of, you know, during the pandemic days when they control the entire response, I mean, you think like Roman had up to his game so much because you're doing community theater.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now, back and run the live crowd and it's like, oh, maybe he hasn't got his skills with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think he's better, but I mean, Jesus, they're the most recent promo was not great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, you got that, stepping into the care and live more again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cody and Randy Orton in 2026.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I was sure they were gonna make that a triple threat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, they could not possibly Cody Rhodes and Randy Orton in 2026.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, as of right now, that's still the match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesse mentioned it, Jade and Rhea Ripley, holy, priced, terrible, absolute, terrible, zero, negative chemistry right there between those two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obelifemian Brock Lesnar, okay,

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[SPEAKER_01]: AJ Lee and Becky Lynch does very little for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean those are your announced matches right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a rematch of us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So match it elimination chamber.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you guys could you off the top of your head without looking it up?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Can you tell me Randy Orton's last few WrestleMania matches?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I randomly thought when they announced that I went when it announced that he was a main event.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I man, I struggled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go, Andrew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, totally forgot about that one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What a fucking barn burner that was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was injured, I believe, the year before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been having some mate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was teamed with Riddle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did he not at a WrestleMania 38?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: See at 39 in a four-way injured for 39 and 40.

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[SPEAKER_00]: injured for 40.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could tell you that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 39 is possibly injured for that too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I can't remember it all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what he did at 35.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was a pretty memorable WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you've got to go back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the last time he was really a big player at Mania, it was probably like 30 and 31, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, 30 won he had that that our arcade on Rollins.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But here he is, old man Orton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 37 lost to the feigned 36 terrible edge match in the performance center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was way too long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ag, Ag, Ag, Ag, Ag, Ag, Ag at 35.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, just dude, we were in the building at 34.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could not have told you this one fatal four way with a gender mahalru seven bobby route.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have zero for the US title, I believe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sounds right, but I remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 33, Bray Wyatt to win the WWE title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 31 Rollins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 30, the Dana Bryan and Batista match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, dude, it's rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe that they're doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know they have the history going back, you know, legacy and all of that, but still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't have any interest in that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And had to have wrestled at 40, because he came back the same time as punk, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he Logan Paul and Kevin Owens.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, recollection of that one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I definitely watched it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, yeah, this card, not great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I got to look to Hunter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about it too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just that booking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just don't really have anything from you right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Creatively that's been enticing to watch the ticket prices.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been ranting on for a long, long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, by the way, apparently you guys see the reports that TKO made the call to the Trump administration to settle the ticket master.

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[SPEAKER_01]: lawsuit that's been pending across multiple administrations for like years now over the ticket master fees.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they called it a personal favorite to get the federal government to settle that case, which hurts consumers because they had, I mean, like just as departments now for years have been working on this case and they had ticket master.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they were going to take them to town instead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got them to settle that case, which is going to hurt us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, we all just bought tickets on Tickamaster for wrestling show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see all those fees on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's totally nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a monopoly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I just, I don't understand all of you out there who only watch WWE, who only support that when there's good alternatives.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's, that's who you're giving your money to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just people who are trying to take money out of your pockets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: insane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, the ticket prices are totally nuts right now and you know, I honestly like, I think AEW at time, they've been more friendly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have not listened to the show extensively for a long time, we also have criticized AEW when we felt they were selling their tickets for too much given their market size.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think they are selling their tickets a little too high in some markets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the collision Justin and I are going to, there's four

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are you charging that for collision and cedar appetite?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's absurd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, movies tickets are much faster if you're out of better price point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you know, they do have tickets for $35.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think they should sell more of them at a lower lower price point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that they are still pricing them too high, but they're not even where close to WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And right now, I'm telling you, for sure, you're going to get a better show at a

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[SPEAKER_03]: better if your professional wrestling fan who actually likes to watch professional wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, if commercials and promos are your thing, AW is not for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, like standing around for 20 minutes between matches, go do the WWE thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tonight they had uh, and raw advertised Seth Rollins, Brock Lesnar, Roman Reigns, and C. And Paul, how many of them actually get in the ring and wrestle?

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[SPEAKER_00]: My assumption be zero.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, absolutely zero.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who wants to see him just talk?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, apparently 12,500 people do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I forgot to ask you guys, do you have anything in the glass?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Justin, he said you were going to be drinking.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, dude.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My first G&T in quite a while.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at that beautiful, hold on a second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hold that up again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me go full screen for you here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at that beautiful rocks glass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Toprobination.com, you pick one up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Good quality as we like to hammer home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That is that's a superb glass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice and heavy feels nice on the hand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not cheap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well made.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not drinking tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saving that for Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am having some margaritas beforehand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do have a NA Margarita from recess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lots of their lime margarita.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it gets the first couple of ships I had of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not the best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's starting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's starting to grow on me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I want a little mini-appless for a little seri, seri, seri, seri, seri, seri, seri, seri, seri.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Classic, you know, this was one of the first craft beers that I really started to love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I might have said this in the show before, but it never gets old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always good, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Always like seri, seri, seri, seri, seri.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he staple?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Heck yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Back to the day is when, so it'd been like 2010, they only sold it in Minnesota.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was in tall boys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Had to take it back to Iowa when I would go up to Minnesota, see my wife's friends and family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I can just get it in town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get a 12 pack of that quite frequently to keep it in the fridge.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wait a second, that sounded awfully empty when you set that down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I got it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I can't wait about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, what kind of pee on do you think I am?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I, I was proud of you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I thought you'd been hammering it and I just didn't notice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see my revolution brewing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a nice Chicago brewing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I bless here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the reason he went quiet searching for those tickets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for the one last year was because he was just pounded us early.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You should be celebrating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be right back guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You should be celebrating and pounding a beer because tonight's the 29th anniversary of the greatest match in WWE of history.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, WrestleMania 13.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brett Austin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: very nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was March 23rd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice call out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we going to be talking about that on Unplug soon?

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[SPEAKER_00]: very, very soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe as early as next week, depending.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's up to it's going to be on your guys' schedules for those too, because we also got a flare in sting from Clash of the Champions one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, early April.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a reason for you to sign up for the Patreon right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys are going to do a deep dive on WrestleMania 13 Brett versus Austin on TN

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, let me, speaking of podcasts, kind of just read you guys a quote.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So recently, Obofemi appeared on Stephanie McMahon's podcast, what's your story?

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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, I don't know why anybody would listen to a Stephanie McMahon host of podcasts, but if you do, and those of you who do listen to it, thank you for providing the transcript so that I didn't have to listen to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here is a quote from Obofemi when he was asked about who inspires him and gets him to dream big, quote, I just recognize the pattern of everyone who was successful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They weren't afraid to dream wild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Elon Musk, Joe Rogan, whoever, I listened to a lot of Joe Rogan when I was in college.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had this mindset of like, go out there, go and do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He also mentioned David Goggins, who's like a veteran, is like an inspirational podcast, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what ton about him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a piece of... 75 hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he invented that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, he's a crazy trainer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not particularly political, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Elon Musk and Joe Rogan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obofemi is inspired by them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My jaw damn near hit the top of my feet, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I read that all the Femi a fan of Elon Musk now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think he really is or do you think he's saying what the McMans and Hunter want to hear?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say have we seen video was there a gun to his head while he was saying this maybe one just off camera.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All the Femi from Nigeria is a big fan of Elon Musk, the South African beneficiary of a

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, come on, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that's true, that's mind-boggling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely mind-boggling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why would I say what came last you on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, easy one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how Elon Musk would motivate anybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's from a wealthy family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's purchased companies that were made by people who were the actual visionaries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess he was kind of behind PayPal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give him credit there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But other than that, he's acquired companies that were built without him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how Elon Musk really is a guy to inspire you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Rogan, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Joe Rogan has the number one broadcasts in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a podcast here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give him credit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't listen to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I found a lot of his content to be questionable at best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of people really like him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's elevated some people that I don't think need elevating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not a fan of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's elevated people who I would think would not do things it would benefit someone like, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oba is, I would think he would like people that would, you know, not, I don't even want to say it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not be detrimental to society.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just very questionable to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now Joe Rogan seems to be slowing down and some of the stuff that he was supporting, but it's like dude, you didn't realize this a year or two ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, like, he built himself up through being a comedian through the UFC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give him credit there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like the stuff that has been spewed on his show that makes it very questionable that someone like Obafemi would admire him, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a good lesson or a good reminder that just because you're on TV doesn't mean you're smart.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I always think about that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember what he was referring to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But big demo, formally, what was he in NXT?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Killian?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Killian?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Killian?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: His response, talking about some wrestlers who were saying some dumb shit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Some wrestlers are just fucking stupid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what to tell you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just and I think your first quote when I sent you that quote, uh, you responded with like the brain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you sent it to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like the God, the brain rod at that point is a fucking disease.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, there's been stuff of NXT and the politics and NXT and it just kind of spreading down there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just pretty terrible viewpoints down there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was pretty shocked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been excited on the show about Oberfemi and what they could do with him and you know, I still want to see the guy succeed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get me wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was just floored that that's who he's pointing to as inspirations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like you said, I keep a large one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My god.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Nigerian, you could take any university of Alabama athlete because that's where he went to school, go to like Julio Jones or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Elon Musk, really, really dude, that's so questionable that I just, that was my first thought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just saying that it's like sucking up to his bosses because he had said something like the day before because I had put it up on our Twitter page and I was like, oh, he knows how to quote play the game or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or it seemed like he was saying something that would suck up to Hunter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, here it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Olbofemi says Triple H was his favorite wrestler when he first started watching WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Quar was I like the way he worked in the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was more of a complete superstar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was good at everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, I think over Femi is Paula taking a little bit here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do that be honest.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a, I agree with you, but that's an even worse quote.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, my God, have you guys seen any of the clips of South Park in the last year?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, every time Pam Bondi's on there, she's got some little crap on her nose.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm thinking of right now with Obi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he's just trying to... God, he was born in 98.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would his earliest wrestling memories be like the reign of terror from Hunter?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's super weird.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the absolute worst time to have been or growing up watching triple H and like the mid 2000s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I could have seen stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I could kind of understand like if you started watching around 98, 99, you know, boy, that period mid 2000s triple H was dire, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is what I mean, he's doing Katy Vick storyline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost said that's when he was doing Katy Vick, which also works, but... Oh, boy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, anyways, that's all I have on the WWE Doc at tonight, unless you guys have anything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I got lots more to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to keep going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's transition to AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, again, I think creative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think wrestling-wise AEW has definitely been the better show of late and more and more people seem to be coming to that side or at least checking it out if you look at, you know, ticket sales, if you look at the TV ratings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, again, we're not saying they're anywhere close to WWE, they are not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But their business is moving in the right direction, slowly, but steadily, WWE's is moving in the opposite direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That being said, they came off of a really solid revolution show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dynamite was like, so, so the crowd, a lot of people in time out of the crowd, wasn't great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who the hell's doing what chance in 2026 during a serious promo from Swerve?

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[SPEAKER_03]: In a good promo too, I thought, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is best to like get them with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they set up some good stuff like long-term, you know, we know a little bit about exactly what we thought was going to happen with Copeland and Christian against FTR, we got the aforementioned Swerve and Omega match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got it, you got Will Osprey in action, you know, to open the show, very first guy out, which is cool.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's certainly not going to ease his way back into competition.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Jesus is going to be watching Daniels in all over again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're just going to cringe even more when he does all these high spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, almost a year to the day two that Kenny Omega wrestled Blake Christian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was at the AWS Dynamite that I was at in St. Paul on the 26th.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So coming up this Thursday and Omega gave Christian like next to zero offense and Blake was given a ton against Will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then we get this, this Tony storm situation where they are not expecting her back for a long time, but she is not injured.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my thought was pregnant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Read into what, what you will, I do not know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have any information on it, but she's gone for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you know, they tease the Rhonda match and that's going to be well into the future, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rhonda's not under contract or anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She appeared kind of exactly what we speculated, Jesse, last Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She lives out there in L.A. She's done a little business with Tony Con before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She really doesn't like WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they brought her on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, for just get a little tension, a little mainstream pop maybe and that's that was what, you know, they possibly set up something with Tony down the line, but you know, it appears it's going to be well into the future now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was surprising coming out of the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They wrote her off with that backstage attack.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they can come back to that whenever she returns and look for the attacker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Justin, I'll throw it to you first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, where are you at right now with AEW?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me about collision, what you're looking forward to the floor is yours.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I wish we had any inkling as to what we could expect in collision, but that's not really the way Tony does things with his Saturday show, which I'm fine with.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm not expecting any fireworks or anything, but no, I'm in a really good place with AEW right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm excited to see what's next.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm excited to see if it's going to be Omega or Swir versus MJF, you know, I'm apparently hangman might be out for a while, taking some time off, which I think that's much easier for AEW to maneuver around compared to Tony Storm, just because I think the depth of the

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[SPEAKER_03]: Frankly, in my opinion, Tony Storm is the top woman in the company if not top three or four men and women.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that'll be a little concerning, but I am assuming we'll have Mercedes Monet coming back soon.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, I'm so right now, I'm just in a place of curiosity with the main event scene.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm very curious.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're a long ways from it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But what are we going to be looking at for all in?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, are they going to have mjf carry all the way there?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And what is the big match?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the assumption is

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[SPEAKER_03]: you would assume we'll all spray.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be taking the title there in, you know, we've already seen we'll all spray versus MJF at all in in Wembley.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So do they do that again or do they get the title off of MJF before then?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I, fuck, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I, I've never really been a big fan.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cope just does nothing for me anymore.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's the kind of the flying the soup for me right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Every time he comes on, it's kind of the little I roll leads, a little to WWE needs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's so strange to me with him and Christian.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, I haven't talked to you guys forever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So now it's just also you and I have you and I have you right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cope and Christian growing up together in wrestling, spending basically their entire careers in WWE.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I know I have Ryan, maybe you two, you know, been saying for a while that Christians the best one in that tech team, you know, going way back to their WWE days and they've proven it out in this AEW run, because Christians just fit in seamlessly the second he stepped into AEW, whereas Copeland still still.

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[SPEAKER_03]: feels very WWE in everything he does, you know, it's the exact same entrance music, everything he does is the same, his promos are the same.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The matches are really the same, that they're kind of an outlier compared to everything else in ring.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm sure a tag team run is going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have

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[SPEAKER_03]: no major problems with his lungs, it's not too long, but when you have so many other possible teams and wrestlers that I would like to see elevated, that just makes it even more coping feel like a weight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, look at fucking speedball.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Somebody who he came in, it's like, oh yeah, he should just be a good in-ring midcard guy and now I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Could he be future champion?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because that freaking match with Mark Davis was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I Jesse mentioned it not too long ago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like speedballs become messy and ring.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean, he just truly phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I really dig Mystico in jet speed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's pretty awesome trio.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Fuck, I don't know, I've rambled on guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Anything out of all that jarble?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to throw a question your way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in Ryan too, so both your ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned FTR in young books, like easily carrying this tag team division, and ProDito should be up there too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the hurts indicate when they get back and do the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But is there another tag team that you would like to be thrown into this mix and elevated?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause we can't have FTR in young books forever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, jet speed, I think we, you know, we've talked recently how we could see Kevin Knox's or Tuesday, Kevin night is, you know, a next big star, you know, possibly a, a all out many vendor, many vent challenger for a world title, you know, maybe this year next, you know, if there's not any singles gold for them,

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's one I could see, you know, obviously it was a real shame that Jake something got hurt basically as soon as he came in because I was really digging that tag team with Mark Davis.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, they just have so many good singles wrestlers that don't have a whole lot to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you cut the Don Callis family in half and make some tag teams out of, you know, some of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's some just some phenomenal talent.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Roosh, let's get him a

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[SPEAKER_00]: the guns are not healthier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of them isn't that would be the other one I was going to point to, but Colton's got the injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I mean, they were really coming on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What couple of years ago, we were really starting to get into them, but yeah, they've injuries and been off TV a little bit lost a ton of momentum.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Top flight is zero steam.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, maybe when Jay White comes back, him and juice could make a run at the the tag titles, especially since.

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[SPEAKER_03]: J White seems to be getting bit by the injury bug quite a bit these days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be a really good heel tag team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it depends on your opinions of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't mind seeing David Finley and Gabe kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're fun little mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've mentioned Darby and Orange for the last month and a half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would not mind seeing them in the mix for it either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So do we think that there's any chance that it's Darby who defeats MJF for the title?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, you know, T's in a Darby match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we got the Swerve Kenny Match for a number one contendership.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think, Justin?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you've pushed the idea of Darby becoming World Champion on the show before.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I still don't mind the idea of it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess the issue is just never feels like the right time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess maybe if you do,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, I wouldn't hate this, if you just kind of, we've had some decently long title reigns if Derby plays mankind and MJF plays the rock, you know, what was that and the winner of 98, you know, right around 99, maybe Derby can win it for like a couple weeks or something, he doesn't need to be a long-term champion, you know, I like the way that dude sacrifices

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, his body for this company, you know, it is one of those rare occasions where I agree with the, well, kind of does deserve it, just give it to him for a short period of time, then you can maybe put it right back on MJF and then, you know, I, Tim in the comments mentioned Osprey wants Omega for all in so maybe you go MJF, Darby for a short run back to MJF.

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[SPEAKER_03]: then maybe Omega can get it unless, or just have offspring beat MJF before all then and he could just go into that show as champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can see that if they if they think it's too predictable, you know, that he would win it there, but I also wouldn't hate seeing Omega get one more run with the title just short term either one be the one to defeat mjf like I double or nothing or something New York and then just have it for the summer and then drop it to Osprey and had one play or something yeah my only thing with that Darby scenario is it just seems kind of forced like he's going to be around for a while not kind of would.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't see it right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't because we're talking about other baby faces that make a lot more sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You gotta get to Osprey eventually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kenny is not what he wants was, but he could be a big draw in selling tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh mate, like, to mention here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Omega Osprey is a marque match for a stadium.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like a baby face baby face stadium world title match that would draw and be super exciting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I came to imagine the entrances for that match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be so cool on a stadium.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would be on board with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would it be predictable?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of predictable that, I mean, I was still questioning whether it was gonna happen or not, but when Brian won the title at all in a couple of years ago, it was still freaking amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably my favorite wrestling memory of the last two years, post dynasty that we attended just in,

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, predictable, we've talked about it a million times, predictable isn't bad in professional wrestling when it's built, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You talk about Danielson.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know I was a little worry-wort about Hangman last year at all then, but I think that was pretty predictable that he was going to beat moxley going back to the other promotion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cody Rhodes beating Roman Reigns at WrestleMania 40, predictable.

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[SPEAKER_03]: but it works.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If you build it right, it's okay when you expect the star baby face to get the win and the world title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The options are still unbelievable because I mean in theory, this would be shoe hoarding it, and I don't know how you could do it, but I will just play your hypothetical.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That Darby sneaks it away from MJF.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe three or four weeks later, Swerve takes it from him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He gets that Washington connection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Swerve becomes a heel champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes to all in headlines it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he takes on Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We get that at all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know, it's possibility has Osprey beat Swarve yet in a W. They've wrestled twice, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess once a draw and then Swarve beat him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Swarve beat him at forbidden door 2024.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and then they drew last year on dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't hate that at all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because that was the thing I was thinking about when it comes to all-in and you're building your biggest show of the years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what are the two biggest names you can put in there?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it really does come if you can, if canny can stay healthy and actually consistently to an extent wrestle,

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, Omega, Osprey, Swerve, are probably the names you're thinking of.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not to take away from MJF.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just, I don't know how interesting him, against any of those guys is compared to Osprey, you know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, if we had already seen MJF Osprey at an all-in, then maybe you'd go with that, but been there done that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Although I guess they're one and one now in their matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually guys will listen to yourself and these fresh matches you're talking about and fresh world champions and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then the other brand, we got Cody Rhodes and Randy Orton, who wrestled at vengeance 2011.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fifteen years ago, let's go back to that for WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they were multiple paperview matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let alone on TV, they wrestled on TV in 2007, 19 years ago,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why with all due respect and I love Will Asprane sort of strickling, I don't want to see them headlining double or nothing 2,034 Bro, I just don't Dude, that'd be, I mean that 2,034 would be even more recent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean that's eight years away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going back What 15 years That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean 2,041

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's two names, two names you haven't mentioned and I mean you're rightfully so because one has a midcard title and the other one's in the same faction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Kyle Fletcher and can I was going to catch it up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're probably a year away from either one of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it'd be Fletcher first.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Which I assume Fletcher will be the one to take it from Osprey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look at this, I mean, these guys have been in the company now for like Osprey's around for years now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't won the world title yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the strength of the rosters incredible and just trying to find the right time to do it, but also putting importance on the title, not moving the title around too much, also factors in and keeps looking forward to these things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, man, really excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm found this WrestleMania ticket sale still here and I think that I think they've solved the problem, you guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they figured out how to draw some more interest in Las Vegas because they announced today that Tony Hitchcliffe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, Tony Hitchcliffe will be back in Las Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the quote unquote comedian who had trouble moving tickets to a show last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who WWE had to try to confiscate video from his roast that he hosted, because they didn't want it getting out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now let's book that guy again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the key.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the key to selling tickets out here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tony Hinch Cliff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we need.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Heesh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And with that, I don't really have anything else on the agenda tonight, unless you guys do what I missed something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a prediction for Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're even Kenny you're gonna battle do a draw three way at dynasty.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes That's what I could see so make it doesn't get his win back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't want to see like swirv winning the EVP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to think, like, when is that kind of storyline really ever worked well and wrestling?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whenever they do that stuff, it's always pretty lame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're a swirv of the new EVP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't like that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it hasn't been done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just took the EVP's away from the young box which ended up being kind of funny in the process.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've done like people winning like authority positions

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and that's somebody made that, yeah, somebody else made that point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like that's such a WWE authority figure thing to do and it's just like unless they have some really, really good ideas for Swarve to do stuff with that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just I just keep that kind of hidden with Kenny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll have plenty to talk about on the show next week because we will all be coming off with some live events.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Tim call Tim by his full name.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Handsome Tim.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't come up with any more humorous than Tony Hitchcliffe tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wouldn't take much, but yes, definitely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd much rather watch Tim Jensen do stand up the Tony Hitchcliffe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say that for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I could see that try humor coming out for sure.

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[UNKNOWN]: You can't stop the street, you can't do it, you can't fight, you can't do it