WWE's Rot Runs Deep, AEW Fires Back With Success

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[SPEAKER_00]: Leave me to do it, it is no pain!

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[SPEAKER_01]: The better it is, the better it was, and the better it will be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're back here, in my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only way to cry, It not reach me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good morning top rope mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So 3.96 a Sunday morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a long, long time since all three of us have been on the flagship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I looked it up August 10th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but I'm back on the flagship, but I've been on the Patreon side with you guys, but thanks to Justin and Jesse for carrying the load the last few weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, I'm Ryan Drossie, and this is the usual trio of your new do the show, and we're gonna be talking a lot of things this morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: WWE, AEW, I got some things I wanna get off in my chest about the state of pro wrestling, this morning, just enjoying how you doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not too bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got my my coffee ready and I'm very curious to hear this rant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I texted the boys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we thought we'd do a show this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't really have much of a agenda.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I started thinking about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got some things when I talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm glad to see Noah and our chat here who says, been waiting on this, A, W, cooked, W, W last weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesse, how are you doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mornings been okay, might be ruined here in the next hour, but I mean, although then that nowhere, everything's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where in my work?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mornings for a specific reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're doing great game was early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, we're doing great now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not looking good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-oh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look at the score yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although watching Aaron Rogers just get annihilated by Jalen Redmond was a lot of fun just now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you love to hear that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're seeing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dublin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next weekend, it's at your favorite spot in the European wavelength adjusted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tottenham.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What game do they get?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Vikings?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Browns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You shouldn't have the Steelers back up, get like mugged or something last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a text alert about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's dope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of Muggings, I'm thinking I'm sure we'll be talking about that as well here, and this show goes along, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we will, yes, we will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, guys, so I mentioned you know, I've been on the Patreon side, basically the big thing is during football season, like an old host of ours, I get really busy now, because I do Chicago Bears podcast, I'm covering the Bears in addition to pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been doing a lot of shows and it's been really hard, bleach report with wrestling still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Usually when I do the BR shows, I post the audio for our patrons as a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys can still hear for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So last weekend, I did a review of WrestlePalooza.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did a review of all out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was on the Patreon side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you guys want to hear those, sign up for the Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesse's putting out on plugs every single week with a top-rope nation classics on Summerslam 90.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a couple of weeks ago, that is available for both patrons and YouTube plus members.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Be joined the YouTube channel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to be doing in-your-house mine games for TRN classics here for September.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The official September show very soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I realize September is almost over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a quick question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are there more stars in the universe or Dave Meltzer stars on the all out redo?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's got to be neck and neck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so I put out my star rays for that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they were pretty fair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was fairly high on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, wasn't the best AW paper view of the year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was way better than Russell Palusa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a really good show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I see those reviews in the observer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, Dave, was it four and a half stars for that opening tag?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to me a four and a half star match is like an ultra memorable match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to remember for months and months and months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that that fits the bill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He loves Adam Copeland.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Ed Jfinn Mallorow is go back to extreme rules, 2022, four and a half stars going to meet Meltzer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First half of that match is unwatchable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've talked about before the industry is kind of adapted to what Dave likes and his, you know, his ratings reflect that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I try to be when I do those ratings, I try to be reflective on where would I rate this historically, even versus, you know, styles 20, 30 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then also, I kind of adjust when I look up and down the card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I sometimes even look at my recent AEW reviews and I think back on some of those matches, I'm like, all right,

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[SPEAKER_01]: again, that's on Patreon too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do that for all the shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys can check that out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's, you know, Ryan and I were hanging out last night and we were talking about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My thing is like, it should be the matches should be compared to kind of like in the time, in the moment, you know, and I think, you know, to Ryan's point, Dave is just grading stuff to to what he likes to see, you know, ringwork, wise, and yeah, I would prefer to compare like if you're

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[SPEAKER_02]: coping cage for FTR.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to compare it to all the other matches that are happening in its era and it's just not a four and a half match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, four and a half.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a match of the year contender.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Big time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that matches not even in the conversation for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Me coming in unprepared, I think I'll actually do the research while one of you's talking at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to look at all three FTR versus brisco matches to see what he gave him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you gave anything four and a half from those,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the all three of those matches were better than FTR versus Copen Cage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be willing to bet all of those were at least five stars.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You got to think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if we were grading them, though, we would probably put it between four and a quarter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There might be a five in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Might be, but it's like four and a quarter to four and a half four and three quarters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For me, the last one would be five stars for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, for comparison sake, my all-out ratings, hangman and fletcher, which is a phenomenal match, I went four and a half on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I thought that that was an unbelievable match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a little five, but I didn't break the scale, you know, like Dave, but at four and a half is a really high score.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was one of those matches that I was stunned when I looked at the match time because it did not feel the length where it didn't in a lot of times in today's matches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You kind of feel once it starts creeping past 25 minutes, you can always feel the length, almost irregardless of how good the match was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I watched that one twice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I loved it so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the opening tag, I gave that three, like to me a three star match is like baseline pretty good match, you know, like not overly gray, but it's a good match, it's above average.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say that's in above average match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, two and a half, I guess, would be average, right, if you kind of wanted to scale right in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, to me, yeah, four and a half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, come on, what are we doing here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, yeah, if you guys want to get those ratings and all those bonus shows just talked about link in the broadcast description, you can see the names of all of our awesome patrons going across the bottom of the screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the thumbnail on this show is rotten to the core, WWE, and on that thumbnail, I've got the WrestleMania 43 Saudi Arabia announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I also have a cutout of Paul Hayman's promo from SmackDown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This past Friday night where if you're not aware, he referenced the allegations for Brock Lesnar.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he got cutoff Cody comes out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's talking about Brock and he's saying like Brock is the guy who's going to take this company into the 2030s and maybe

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Brock Lesnar is going to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who is 48 years old, by the way?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you look at the main event scene of WWE, that tracks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to, I want to quote him directly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, hold on, let me just pull up the transcript because I still have the tab open from the promo here, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got the picture from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said quote, or,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We should talk about the conspiracy theories and the rumors regarding Brock Lesnar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the crowd kind of reacted a little confused, some booze, and then Cody's theme comes on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Cody comes out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, the things I want to talk about I guess are, I didn't really want to get in the direction of the show, but now that's hitting me, I believe that we've been very fair on this podcast over the years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forced Justin to watch WWE, even though he doesn't want to watch WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And look, I'll be completely honest, I grew up watching WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still watch WWE because I got to drive a bleacher report that requires me to watch WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that doesn't mean they're above criticism and certainly we criticize them when they need to be criticized and I mean, I said this on the show months ago about how they were throwing things in your face about where some of the top people in this company stand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just they don't care, it's like their businesses doing well, although it ain't doing as well as it was and I'm going to get into that because I looked up some figures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the business has been doing really good and they're like, oh, we can do anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can just we can take as much money as possible from these fans and they'll eat it all up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll charge $800 for nosebleed seats at WrestleMania 42.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who the hell is paying this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you're paying that, you're part of the problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you need to refute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, there is not an entertainment product on Earth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would pay $800 for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the biggest Bruce Springsteen fan in the world, I've seen him like almost 20 times live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would not pay $800 to see the boss and concert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the best live performers of all time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, where the creative is right now with this company, WWE, I just can't imagine justifying that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you guys saw these quotes where they were talking about take a price as a couple of weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Vince McMahon quote?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, I'm out to read that here, so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Nick on was confronted by a fan about ticket cost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was like a fan video.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was out there not too long after.

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[SPEAKER_01]: TKO COO Mark Shapiro was doing a presentation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, quote, www is not where the UFC yet is on ticket yield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have our own work to do there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he added that, you know, Vince McMahon had long kept ticker prices, family, friendly, rather than focusing on maximizing their revenue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he, Shapiro goes on to say, now that we've seen what we can do with UFC, we're replicating that in terms of ticket yield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And holding back in advance sales when it comes to on-location on the WWE side and it's working out,

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[SPEAKER_01]: really well, guys, do you know how big of a asshole you have to be to make Vince McMahon look like a hero?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Vince McMahon was an maximizing ticket revenue enough and we're doing what we can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In this economy, yeah, have you guys looked around lately?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen grocery prices over the last several years and in the last year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: and the price of everything, regardless of what our dope president says, the price of everything is up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good, they're in lie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything's down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The price on everything is up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are facts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this company is just constantly, constantly raising the price.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's absurd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who is paying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to be the biggest mark in the entire world to pay these prices.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have been a wrestling fan for over 35 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've gone to a lot to WWE shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will not even consider going to these shows right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a SmackDown not far from us a few months ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would have cost me

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the upper deck over $500 to buy four tickets to go to take my kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, you guys, I just bought five tickets to an upcoming AEW pay per view, cost me in the threes, $300.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For five tickets on the lower level, a show that I know will absolutely smoke any upcoming WWE show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't get it, you know, you can be a, you can be a WWE stand all you want, but it's undeniable that the creative is bad right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they haven't, they haven't had good shows in a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're still in this hot run, but speaking of tickets guys, let me just give you some numbers and then I'll let you guys chime in because I'm like, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got to be selling less tickets because I feel more and more people are starting and complaining about the ticket sales.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm seeing this in social media all the time now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We ranted about it almost a year ago on the podcast way ahead of the curve on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here are some of the numbers of their upcoming shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got raw this Monday tomorrow night in Raleigh, North Carolina.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This one I actually didn't look up how many tickets they sold last time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me just double check this real quick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That one is close to sold out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've closed well on this one, but it is way under what they could be doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so the Lenovo Center in Raleigh, the number of seats on the map per WrestleTix is a little over 17,000.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and the last time they were there, they sold 12,600 tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was in

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[SPEAKER_01]: March of 2024, so they haven't been there a long time, you know, you would think this company's hot, they're surely going to equal that, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, they've sold 9,100 tickets, there's 10, it's set up for 10,200, so they're set up for 2000 less than what they sold last time, and it's not quite sold out, they'll probably get there by tomorrow night or close, but then listen to this, and I joked about this in our Facebook group yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cincinnati, Ohio, we've been tracking this one for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I sent you guys a screenshot of this one a few weeks ago, and I was like, oh my God, look at how bad this show was selling in Cincinnati.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's a big market there and a fellow franchise, you know, Moby franchise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Cincinnati, Ohio, the last time they were there was for raw this past February sold over 12,000 tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Smackdown next week, they've sold 5,600 tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's set up for 7,700.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's set up for almost 5,000 less than the last time they ran that venue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's go on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ron Dallas, the week after October 6, current set up is for 11,400.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've sold 8,400.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last time they were there was in January for raw, 14,000 tickets distributed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they are almost 6,000 less for a show that's eight days away from the last time they ran.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they go to Australia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't have a lot of numbers on Russell takes for the Australian shows, but look, they're hardly ever run there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of a different animal when you run out of the continental United States.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we bring it back to San Jose on SmackDown, October 17th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had raw there in January, sold 13,000 tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've sold 7,500 for that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, Row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it gets worse, raw, raw and sacramental, October 20th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last time there was an April, 14,100 tickets distributed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've sold 5,400 tickets, so don't tell me this product is hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are way below, way below what they were selling, and that's due to creative, and that is due to them

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are facts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People are not paying these prices.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for the people who still are, they're going to just, this is what they've done during down periods.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like they're just going to keep raising the prices to make up the profits they're losing because people are not going to the shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and I got more numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're running a SmackDown in Tempe, Arizona.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is part of this big 12-partnership they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're running a small venue for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The place only seats 5,000 people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've only sold 3,000 tickets for that show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, across the board, numbers are lower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been talking for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys want to jump in on any of this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I just real quick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you summed it up perfectly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I.

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[SPEAKER_02]: kind of has a dent even follow that well done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the only thing I just want to say is for anybody out there saying, oh, we're just shitting on WWE because that's what we do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We were railing on a W, went when their attendance was falling to drop their ticket prices to help fill up the arenas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It pro wrestling is much better when the arenas are full.

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[SPEAKER_02]: it adds so much to the atmosphere of a wrestling product, especially when it's on television, is just get those things filled up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is not just WWE thing, like we're very much, hey, drop the prices, fill the arenas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, that's one of the things I've pried of the show on the most.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at this t-shirt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: established 2016.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been at this for a long time, okay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we've been high in WWE, we've been down on WWE, and high in AEW, down on AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the thing is, when AEW deserved the criticism, take a crisis, they've dropped prices since then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, some of that's market demand, but you know, I do think that they are trying to keep that product more family friendly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And WWE, as they've gotten more and more corporate,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't care, they just want to make money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And look, Vince is a piece of garbage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anyone disagrees with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he did keep take a price as reasonable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what else he did?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He created the storyline that lasts true for this company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Paul of Vec.

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[SPEAKER_01]: who plasters his name across everything he can every commercial for this company features the guy that's the head of creative just in you railed on this long ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is so weird that this guy does this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not active talent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not even an on-screen character.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he opens the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he puts himself on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The last thing you see on the show is his name is like the biggest case of small man syndrome I have ever seen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, praise to the goat bread heart who's been over in Europe and talking about 100 in the last few days, you guys are pricing those quotes out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, if you want to pass yourself all over the TV shows, then you've got to take the heat when creative goes in the shitter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, Jeremy and I, you guys are patrons heard this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When we were talking about, where does WWE go in these title pictures in the months ahead?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was like no options, I mean, like they built the two-world champions thing, just sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you were looking at possible challenges for Cody, well now they're just going to send Brock against him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like nobody built up on that brand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a report out there that at Russell Palooza, Cody and Drew were actually pushing for Drew to win the title and have Randy cost Cody the title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, despite Drew McIntyre going to the birthday party of Vince McMahon, which certainly hurt my opinion of that guy, I like that a hell of a lot better than what they're doing, at least it would shake things up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cody's gonna retain again and just a super average match, and that was that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I gave a three stars, you know, average, a little bit above average, but, you know, not a good match, not a match I would ever revisit, and certainly left me with no interest in the WWE title picture at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesse, you want to jump in here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything you want to say on anything brought up so far?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you were talking about, oh, we'll just go to the Vince McMahon part once again Vince still being Vince handing out statues of himself for his birthday and all his guests if you saw that as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 100 of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: On right, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, my god.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Vince again, still still being Vince inside of the fact they were trying to humanize them for actually keeping ticket prices down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd be curious because you're I think if I was like computing while you were going on, averaging maybe four or five thousand less on the second go rounds here, I'd be very curious to see just how much they're really marking up these ticket prices and how much they're if they're if they are losing it all or if they're staying like within range of what they made last time, that's all they really care about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, with camera angles, you can just simply just not highlight a specific section of the arena you can darken it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you can make it look like it's a full crowd one way or another with that production.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's such a huge company that got to see all the metrics there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I would imagine that as attendance drops, tickets go up, which is just ass-in-one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, another question I was actually going to ask you, were you going to go into any detail on them counter programming AEW because I do have something I wanted to bring on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, one second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got an accurate chat this morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we need to feature some of these comments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No a jumping in can't watch or support WWE right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was on team WWE about 18 months ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, we've all talked about we were all WWF kits growing up, you know, I still like, you know, I'm always going to follow it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just it's harder and harder with their business practices and some of the things they associate with these days, yeah, John, it takes something to baby face Vince charging 10k Noah says to go watch bad wrestling kind of crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Jay, checkin' and just got here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I assume this means we're not going to many of this here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I can't see them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: John says, yeah, people are still going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's some rich people who love the Fed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the people that vote for the people that give them a tax cut at the top, I guess is what I could say on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to cut in for just one second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For those people who paid a high dollar to watch that SmackDown product on Friday night, give me your thoughts on the ending of that triple threatening event that you saw with the wonderful should have been three count, but the ref just looked around and was like, no, so it was to stop here and then

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[SPEAKER_00]: They would at yeah, I mean if we were to go with the other company that would get shit on to death I would I can't believe is I think the biggest three biggest talking points here in social media recently have been that Gale Kim if you had that in your mango card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me know and on Dreyus Hale I love you for your C grade at Russell Palusa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming Ryan you gave that show a C. I think you did

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why that was even a story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of these nerds on social media.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you believe that the USPN review gave it a see?

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[SPEAKER_01]: like, yeah, they're doing a lot of classes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're broadcasting the show, but like, I mean, are they going to put some on their website and like give everything, I don't think that's really how journalism's going to operate over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're paying to broadcast the shows, but like they're also going to pay their writers to be honest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, yeah, a shot of a message this week to ask if he's going to be continuing to do reviews for the WWP

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh Jay the real question who are the people who pay to go watch nothing commercials for the last three years?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean I would say that too and you guys would probably agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean I went to a SmackDown couple of years ago was the last WWE TV I went to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I even said, even in WWE's down period, I'd much rather go to house shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were way more fun, the WWE TV, which was a lot of watching the screens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like, you go to one of these AEW shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's hard to find a bathroom break because it's just non-stop action.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like the money goes so much further at those shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've said this before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember I got a bunch of trolls on Twitter when I said this, but it's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's true for you guys, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: far prefer AW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been to both and they thought the AW shows were way more fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got these people in my mentions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, oh, you're just brainwashing your kids and kids love WWE and it's like, but they like watching WWE too and I can alive, but they prefer AW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just the God's honest truth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they preferred WWE, that's what we would watch more of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, that's the truth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, John said there are people who applaud when they say, biggest gate, yay, we paid the most.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we always joke about that on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Triple H thinks is a bigger draw than everyone knows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It says, yeah, I like Noah's last comment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If they just left AW loan, I could excuse some bad booking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's, you know, obviously I don't like the WWE product right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not for me, especially when you factor in all the outside stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's just the fact that they want to homogenize the entire wrestling industry and I just I cannot support that and that's why I throw my weight behind a W because they're not, you know, trying to do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're trying to incorporate other companies instead of ingest them like WWE is doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so, I mean, yeah, you're totally right, Justin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the counter program we were going to talk about here, it's obviously just terrible business practice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you are a wrestling fan, it's bad for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a wrestler, it's bad for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I can't even keep these straight anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was on BR on the show where I ran to about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're just a total dummy, if you're in a locker room and you're rooting for WWE to like destroy a W because that's going to hurt your bargaining power and you get paid less, WWE as a percentage of their revenue pays talent, way less than other pro sports companies, NFL, MLB, or leagues, I should say MLB NBA, they pay their talent way more than WWE does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, and that's not going to get better now with the TKO partnership.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to they're going to keep bringing in all this money and bragging about towns now paying them to run paper views that are having trouble selling tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Apparently lately, uh, there's still going to pay millions of dollars or bring WWE to their towns.

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[SPEAKER_01]: WWE is pocketing that for their executives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not going proportionally to the talent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're talent, you want to you want to drive

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[SPEAKER_00]: your your contracts you need a W to exist see a bargaining power you know the monopoly era of WWE was horrid nobody should want to go back to that right just to go ahead I was going to go into that point just a little bit further in the number one reason in my eyes why WWE is counter programming a W is for the revenue piece from what I saw I was looking at some numbers

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[SPEAKER_00]: AEW with their revenue share and what they give the wrestlers and this could be wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So even if you lower this by 10%, it still sounds phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They apparently it's 50%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The revenue half of the revenue goes to the talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, you lower it to 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still 40.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Average for leagues because they have UEs in such is around 50%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a couple of like 45, 47, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: W-W-E get ready for this on average the last decade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They pay their talent in revenue shares 7.6 percent average.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've had some years where they gave them 10, 11 percent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And UFC as well, they give their talent about 15 percent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is frowned upon quite a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then you look at their sister company that just rolled in and they're giving out half of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason they are doing this is so, they can get AEW out of business so they can keep those prices low that they're paying their talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what, this is a huge reason why you should be pro AEW because it's not just for the product itself, it's for the talent and the compensation that they're receiving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've heard people defend WWE like, oh, I like the talent there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We all do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we want them to get paid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and like you just made a great point there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to have them get paid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need a competition that's doing well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, like Jay says here, there's something super gross about having your talent work shows that will ultimately suppress their labor rate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Justin, you have some.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the stars in the locker room who are supporting this to the truly mind-boggling thing is all these retired vets with podcasts who who take every opportunity to shit on a, w, and praise, w, e. It's like what they should no more than anybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that the only way for the town to make money is with the competition or to have that competition and they're doing everything they can to make people want to turn off a W in only watch WWE it's just that that is just beyond shitty for these fucking shear leaders and and not all of them but some of them just why do they have podcasts because WWE pays them

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[SPEAKER_01]: or because they didn't get paid enough when they rock their WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now they got a grift the fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just never really gotten the draw to listen to like a wrestlers podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I'm biased because I want you guys to listen to us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: some wrestlers podcasts are good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them is just like, I don't even know why you would listen to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the stuff they're spewing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we saw some stuff this week from bully Ray that was just unbelievably horrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know, that's a whole different tangent saying you should put them mizz in the match with Sina and AJ styles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just brain rot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why you would want them mizz.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, the mizz was out there in the news this week too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know we're all over the map.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't done a show in a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is fun bashing Brian Danielson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What what a fucking nerd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually criticize his Brian Danielson.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I co-sign putting Mizz in that match just for the comedies sake of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nope, you first, Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I was going to say, as if this gets any worse by the way, Eric Bishop, the last three weeks, because I still have an ad free shows, like $1 subscription.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is now added a segment each week with Raj Geary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I know Eric Bischoff was doing the podcast, because that guy was filing for bankruptcy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is correct.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here you go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would like to hear your guys' opinion on Chris's comment here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming he's referring to WWE talent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What can they do about this?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is there anything they can do about this?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because obviously it's in their best interest to

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[SPEAKER_02]: make WWE as good as possible, but that's also just kind of hurting the industry as a whole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they have to perform if they're told to perform these are these are decisions coming from Nikon and the the business suits at WWE to counter program these shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, not going online and bearing the competition I guess is one thing, but yeah, I mean, they can't like refuse to work the shows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have to work the shows, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no union, so they don't really have like labor power to refuse to work the shows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, Hulk's dead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they can get it done now, but we're Jesse.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ventura that is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ventura that is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm what's his face was going to unionize pro wrestlers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever happened with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hard to do now these days and I know I'm sure there is there like a ginormous ego in the WWE locker room like Roman or a Seth or a Cody or something like that or even a Brock that Would be opposed to unionizing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure one of them probably one of them would would radama for sure You can't trust these people Andrew Yang that's what they could remember Andrew Yang said that a Biden one the presidential election He was gonna unionize pro wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What ever happened to that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Andrew Yang another grifter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry if I pissed some of you guys off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we talked about Smackdown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, WrestleMania is going to Saudi Arabia guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't talked about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything you would like to add on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you guys booked a hotel or flight yet or are you going to wait for your two show time?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming not not taking any of the ladies in your life or you know LGBTQ people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh god.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, and you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that we're even going to cover that show if we're doing this podcast all at that point because I mean, it's just gross at this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have the real rumble over there now too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to all of our fans that listen to show from England, which is about a quarter of you, saw to get Mania before London is just disgusting awful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: absolutely disgusting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, yeah, I mean, obviously, there's been a lot of talk out there that AW should run a stadium show the same weekend in the U.S.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Partner up with all the indie groups that would normally run around WrestleMania.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a no-brainer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We said that they should have run, I guess they still could, but we said that they should have run, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: There, which we would have been the April paper view down in New Orleans when Mania was supposed to be this spring, you know, to make good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to make good on, uh, on WWE canceling Mania there this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's still on the cars they can still do it, but I think absolutely the sawty weekend when none of these indie shows are going to be all the run Mania events.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they absolutely need to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a no brainer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, Noah seems like John Cena's down with Triple H's shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This Triple H has just ruined Cena's last run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, for this guy, it was such an indictment to see Cena's entrance at Russell Paluso with all those kids, and that's like the stuff people were dying to see in his last run, and they give him that cool entrance only to job out to Brock Lesnar, to set up another match.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's also like, dude, look how bad you screw this up on her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what it should have been all year long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just totally screw the pooch on John Cena's final run here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just another creative failure from Paul of Beck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I am just struggling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm struggling to see what people see in this guy as a booker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because most everything this year has been dog shit and he was handed the bloodline thing from Vince and that was the main drawing card, you know, for years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess Usos got an over under him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was handed Cody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was handed Pong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he didn't make it in either of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cody took his A, W, and Indy character into WWE, and just did the exact same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like built for a WWE audience, kept the same theme song, the same look, everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Real quick, I'm curious.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If Chris Jericho ends up in WWE, do you think he goes back to break the walls down or are they gonna do Judas?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I bet I'll be grateful all this down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks, though, because they have the, you know, the sing along with Judas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I don't know, there's just part of me that thinks they'd go with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Jericho's very big on, on, you know, say what you will about him, but he's always looking forward and not backwards.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I would be kind of shocked if he does the nostalgia act going back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he belongs there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was good for AW for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to bury him too much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He made sentences the first champion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just obviously overstated his expiration date there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did a lot of good stuff for the first several years, but it's time to move on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just like it is for anybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about this in the show all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Movements good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been there now for six almost seven years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's nothing left for him to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can go back to the Hall of Fame, you know, make some more money, whatever, but like the, I don't see any way a W benefits from a continued Chris Jericho presence at this point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a hard no for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's way past the

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[SPEAKER_02]: kind of the ringwork necessary to perform an AW now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's much more suited both, you know, character and entering to go back to WWE.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 2022 was his last really good year and then the last few have just been very iffy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, well, yeah, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's been very quiet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously he still has his podcast but he's not, I don't think he's done any interviews with any AW talent in the last few months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, writing could be on the wall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I have anything more to talk about with WWE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been 40 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, we can, uh, we can talk a WWE direction here a little bit, you know, coming out of all out, which we said was a really good show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know, for this promotion to have lost two other three top baby faces and still feel exciting is a credit to their booking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So credits everything they're doing right now, you know, we we harped on what the death writer's storyline was all during the middle of the year and how it was like the weakest part of the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They obviously recovered from that and made it intriguing, you know, and that they do the stuff where they're teasing Stattlander, being part of the group, and then...

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[SPEAKER_01]: They fight, you know, she doesn't join them, and they fight at the end of dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Darby comes out with the flamethrower, you don't think of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you want, uh, but him doing the i-quit match with Moxley.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think is going to be good at the next show, the next pay per view.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Are there nerds out there who said the flamethrower thing wasn't cool?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's not cool about a fucking flamethrower?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, visually, I thought it was pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever, you know, it's not a criticism of mine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I wouldn't rail on that by any means.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was a memorable way to end the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I did think that dynamite as a whole was kind of average.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't like a great follow-up to all out, but they're starting to set the table for next month's show, down in St.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Louis, a venue just in an eye travel to for dynasty a couple of years ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're really wish I could go, even though we don't really know what's going to happen with that card other than the I quit match, you know, it's the same thing is coming out of forbidden doors, my big question is like, what's next for hangman, because it almost looks like he's going back to the death rioters, you know, with recent television, but you know, obviously Moxley's occupied with Derby, so I'm very curious to see what his opponent's going to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just really hope they don't do the WWE thing with two blood and guts matches with the men's and women's.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just let the women have their moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the women's here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's uh, you know, my one criticism maybe I would have dynamite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that that MJF promo was kind of lame, quoting my way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I dug that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I liked it with the call back to Adam Cole and how he basically hasn't been MJF since then, which is I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the first half of the promo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm interested to see him try to get his moxie back for lack of a better term.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, as he returns back with more of an edge, I guess is what he was leading into.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought this second part of that promo was a little cheesy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He literally like direct quoted song my way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, I ate it up and spit it out and he spit out a tack.

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[SPEAKER_01]: has a little on the nose, I thought that was a little lame, but the early part of the promo was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's obviously one of those guys out there in the promotion who he, for first of all, he had been requesting to work with brisco, I guess, for months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to put over brisco, we always talk about how he's so good, but then he always loses his matches, so for him he'd get the win, I thought was

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[SPEAKER_01]: great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that match a lot too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I gave it four, even.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Always impressed, Mark Briscoe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, you know, MJF's a guy who obviously was one of the main vendors of this promotion for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like he's definitely stepped back, so to see him try to rise again would be, would be something I think sorely needed in this promotion to have another top heel like that again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there really aren't that many, like, really top heels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, like, for example, the Don Callis family, I mean, they have O'Cotta who's still the unified champion, but we just saw Kyle Fletcher take on Hangman also with the title belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I would like to see O'Cotta get a title shot and at Hangman at some point in time, but it doesn't look like

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[SPEAKER_00]: when he gets back from Japan, is he going to be off TV for a long time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a title match in two weeks, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, oh, is that in two weeks?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll see how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that Zack Saber Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: had a defense this morning against Brenner Rita, so the next big show was in like two or three weeks, and that's going to be an octet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For their October show, you very curious to see where they go from there because Moxley is still doing some pretty good work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just brought Daniel Garcia into the fold.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I liked that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been calling

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[SPEAKER_00]: I should wouldn't mind seeing Wheeler get booted from the group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that would be ideal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brian Daniels didn't even call them out on commentary for it just saying Wheeler hasn't really held up his end of the bargain over the last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Daniels is that ace they got in their back pocket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, every time he's out there in commentary and something's happening in front of them, everybody watching is waiting for him to set down that headset and get into the ring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to happen eventually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when that happens,

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[SPEAKER_01]: all time moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is going to be incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know this guy's going to wrestle again at some point and you're you're just I that's another part not he's great on commentary just and you've been talking about how much you like my commentary is very good on commentary, but there's that second aspect of it of the tease one after the death writers and getting his revenge for how his career ended and at some point when they pull that card, it's going to be incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not only that though, we get a lot of returns in the last few weeks too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Orange Cassidy is, in example, he's wrestling fletcher here Wednesday night boy, championship, like that'll be fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jungle boy or Jack Perry reuniting with Luchessaurus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that is a great shot in the arm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for EW's tag team division.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the big one, which is kind of being in the background right now, is Eddie Kingston.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we would like to see him get out of this lower card quicker sooner rather than later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's off to a little bit of a slow start, but you can heat him up in any given time, just how much the crowd loves him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very nervous that they pair him with hope, though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: agree i i think they've kind of shit the bed with eddy's return basically just having big bill challenge him and then he responds on social media and obviously that match was a little lackluster and now he seems to be in a tag team with hoax sick woof especially note talking about how awesprey and swarve are out in a w still you know keeping the pace without them

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, now it looks like MJF could be gone for a while.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like Copeland could be gone for a while, not anywhere near that level, but I think holograms out for the rest of the year it sounds like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, they needed something a little bit better and bigger for Eddie's return, and I just haven't seen that yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, they should have given Eddie a promo on Dynamite live Mike.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, one of the best talkers in the whole company, that was sorely needed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was a swing and a miss to not have that on the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I do like, usually we're not proponents of more titles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think the women's tag titles is a good move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of underutilized women in this company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was happy to see them announce that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you guys think about the women's tag titles?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Justin?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the same concern I had when they brought him into WWE is like, is there enough enough depth to have the tag division while now without completely depleting opponents for your two singles championships is my only concern, you know, it's like, is there gonna be any kind of

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... connectivity between you know the teams obviously you know and a jay and table have a long history together so that one makes a lot of sense but you know i i think we're all here kind of big fans of win

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[SPEAKER_02]: tag teams there's a uniformity to it, you know, whether that be their look or just their dynamic and I just really need them to build a build that out without hurting, you know, the women's

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think one thing that we aren't really talking about much is with Swerve Osprey, Omega taking on a lighter schedule, MJF now on the shelf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This has been a golden opportunity for Tony to highlight the women's division here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've been talking about who can replace them on the men's side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe give the women a little bit more TV time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think this is a good opportunity to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My response to the tag titles was a wait and see approach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel just because it's going to be tough for it to get on television.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If that makes sense, I mean, it's all those championships and everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one thing I also said was the trios division championships.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel unified those with ring of honor and send them to ring of honor and call it a failed experiment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's gonna make both of those tag team divisions, women's and men's that much better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, we'll see, I mean, I think over the years, we've been asking for one more match for the women on TV.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been slowly doing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's a matter of how do you highlight all of these women on a weekly basis with just four hours of television?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I had more concerns about the WWE ones than the AEW.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like there's more depth and characters with substance in AEW's undercar that hardly ever get on TV that they can utilize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also think that this possibly gives Tony Storm something to do and keep her out of the world title picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: just her and Mina as the first tag champions would make a lot of sense and then you get star power you get it on TV because you got to put Tony Storm on TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah I mean there's they built up a lot of natural partnerships over the years with the women you know Megan Bayan and Penelope you know that was another one that you know they're obviously fit in the division you called out some of the others.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it has, yeah, wait and see for sure, but I think it will be a good way to ensure that some of these women get on TV more as they should have been already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's been a valid criticism of AWS underutilizing what's a super strong women's division, and has been for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know on the other side if the women's division has been utilized as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, with, you know, the way smack down at it, as you said, Jesse, it was a total embarrassment

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the Jade Cargo failed experiment and could care less what Moriah may's doing in NXT right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, I, the A, W, women's division is much, much better and more intriguing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And just because we're nerds here, I just want it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: say I wish the tag title belt design was a little bit more unique instead of just kind of a playoff of the men's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like exactly the men's with just women on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, pretty much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What were your feelings on Chris Dattlander winning that championship at all out?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like it just because I like Stattlander and I don't

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[SPEAKER_02]: wish they'd built her up a little bit more the transition is a little awkward to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't kind of just like with the new tag titles, it's just kind of a wait and see right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like Tony Storm was on such a freaking heater as your champion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And to have her lose the title in a fatal four way, it's just kind of met to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I would have almost preferred like a transitional heel to be in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of doing the stat lander, she got me joined the death writers or not, as she had baby face, as she had heel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I didn't hate it, but it's just, yeah, again, it's a wait and see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, going in, I thought I actually did think a title change was likely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was leaning more towards Jamie Hater, winning it, and then I figured they'd go with her and Tony feuding, but I guess, you know, maybe because they had this tag team situation brewing, and they may be the first saw Tony and Meena in that situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, TK was like, well, just take her out of the world title picture entirely, because if she drops

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think with Stattlander, I have been a little down on her, I just kind of felt like, I don't know, she was more interesting to me years ago, and I felt like my interest level and the character has not really picked up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although, you know, what they've done with the death writers and teasing there has been pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the bigger thing is that stats can probably drop it to Willow and that I'm into.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think as a natural way to get the title ultimately to Willow, is it's a good move.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But in a baby face baby face match, I mean, again, to your point, I'm way more invested in Willow's character would have preferred to see her win it at all out then, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, ultimately, at first, I thought Stat would turn, which it could still happen long term.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, I still think that she's going to drop to Will.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if it is baby face, baby face, so be it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Tony dropping it to Will would have worked, but Tony is so beloved too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that would have been more forced than doing it with Statlander.

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[SPEAKER_00]: one nitpick i can go with and i understand why they're doing it is they've had Megan bane in a lot of multi-women matches ever since she lost a tonie storm because that's i think that's our only loss on roster right now speed statlander twice you can each easily feature that they just haven't kind of pushed her side by side maybe because they're fearful of her i don't know i mean i don't really have a good reason why they're feel fearful of her

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[SPEAKER_00]: rejuvenate that because she'd be a good contender, but I feel like you could have gotten her more over if you continued a singles push parallel with Tony Storm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe she could be the one to take off Chris off a Chris that under this point right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like she'll just be like one of the more dominant forces in the women's tag team division at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like Chris, her Cory says in the chat, he thinks stats can turn on Wednesday and the match with Darby and the Death Riders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think, despite her not turning this week, I still think that that could be the long-term direction, obviously, and they could just be teasing it and making you think she's not gonna turn and then turn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see, I think a stat-lander heel run would be good, switch it up a little bit and then drop it to Willow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But ultimately, I wanna see Willow get the shine and have her have the title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel we all give Marina Shafir her flowers as an enforcer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you like to see her more in the ring in singles competition against women?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, not what I've seen out of her when she's wrestled in less in the training, so she's improved your game, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think the current role for her works pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're going to add another woman to the death rioters, whether that's status somebody else, soon.

54:57.055 --> 55:02.638
[SPEAKER_00]: They talk a lot about her work on Blood Sport and I think she's done a couple of GCW vents and how much it's improved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was one of the few people that took John Moxley up on advice to get better and to get on television.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's obviously why she's with him and it's her roles been suited perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to see if there is some kind of improvement through her and the... Yeah, it's not a bad idea to give her some more matches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She'd be a good candidate to have a partner and go after those tag titles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Got a protector in that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, anything else, A, W. We wanted to hit, I think that was, I mean, just kind of wanted to comment on how Dynamite followed all out again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We, we did, or I did a review of all out last week, and you guys can hear it on the Patreon side if you want to dive into that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's just, I guess what I would say about that too is we've been trying to schedule these paper view reviews and it's, it's a little easier when they are on a Saturday, but the problem I've been running into is like I've been doing them on bleach report and I don't want to like do the same show twice, you know, like it's, I got a lot of stuff cooking right now with all these different gigs I have, especially in the fall and so like if I do the review for bleach report with Jeremy,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then to do another review the next morning is just not the most time efficient thing for me, so I put them up for our patrons and you guys can hear that and then I'll kind of on those weekends I'll usually lean on Justin and Jesse if if they want to do a review or maybe they you know just what we couldn't work it out last weekend schedule wise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But usually on the paper view reviews, at least this fall, it's probably going to be these two without me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you want to hear mine, you can sign up for the Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's great way to support us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably going to be the setup mostly moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless it's something I really want to rant on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I might do a second review.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, now we got that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got classics coming on mine games, one of the best Mick Foley matches of all time against Shawn Michaels coming for our patrons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesse has been reviewing 1995 ECW, you know, over on the Patreon fee with unplugged and getting into some really good Mick Foley stuff over there too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it kind of fits the theme.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything you want to talk about what you're doing on unplugged Jesse?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's been a lot of ECW stuff I had, speaking of wrestlers podcasts, I had Brian Wtash, the host of the Sandman podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do a very light kind of, it's almost like us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's 10 to 15 minutes of sports rants at the beginning of the show, and then they'll dive into either a review of current topics or they'll go into the Sandman's career and just

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[SPEAKER_00]: like ECW on TN and for last week was an example.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do that and always have fun shredding wrestling Twitter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I get to do that again here in a couple of days because Ryan talked about a couple of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was quite funny.

57:48.094 --> 57:54.198
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm debating to move forward in the ECW 1996 depending on the library situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't know where we're going with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're listening entertainment wise here in 2026.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will definitely be canceling peacock when the WWE library is off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I'm going to keep it that long to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been telling these guys and I would advise all of you to do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get an external hard drive.

58:14.647 --> 58:33.245
[SPEAKER_01]: and start compiling shows because I think they're all gonna end up on YouTube a lot of it's probably gonna end up on YouTube but like what we've seen with raw is that they transition the raw library in Netflix but not all the shows moved over and I think the days of like the full raw archive being available are probably gone.

58:34.225 --> 58:42.111
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to be a completeist and have that stuff, I'd recommend getting external hard drive and building up your library from online sources.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all I'll say on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this ESPN service, by the way, I was gonna bring this up in my rant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not paying 30 bucks for that.

58:50.817 --> 58:58.160
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they, they told people that you're going to get it with your cable subscription and then they haven't worked out that agreement with most cable companies.

58:58.380 --> 59:01.742
[SPEAKER_01]: So right now, if you want to watch the PLEs, you got to buy the ad on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I saw for a long time a lot of the WWE heads were bashing a W for their $50 paper views.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now you're paying 30 bucks for paper views that aren't nearly as good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the problem with it,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is like, what else are you gonna watch on that app?

59:19.886 --> 59:29.051
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you have the, I have the old Hulu Disney ESPN bundle that they had at the very beginning when Disney plus launched.

59:29.691 --> 59:36.115
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I have like Adfree ESPN Adfree Disney and I have ads on Hulu.

59:36.355 --> 59:38.736
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like 20 sum bucks for all three.

59:39.056 --> 59:40.717
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm still getting it at that price.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have to like cancel that and upgrade for this $30 ESPN.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only stuff I watch on that ESPN are live football sometimes, which I get on the current tier among, which is not the tier that has the WWE PLEs.

59:56.535 --> 01:00:01.556
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have the library that ESPN documentaries, like $30 for $30, which are great, but those are also on Netflix.

01:00:02.917 --> 01:00:07.418
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, I don't know why I would pay $30 a month to upgrade just for the PLEs pretty much.

01:00:07.798 --> 01:00:08.338
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm not.

01:00:09.265 --> 01:00:11.786
[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's there's other ways to watch him you guys.

01:00:11.906 --> 01:00:13.006
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been going over to England.

01:00:13.046 --> 01:00:13.967
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I did last week.

01:00:14.947 --> 01:00:18.549
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to England and logged into my netflix for a few hours.

01:00:18.609 --> 01:00:22.490
[SPEAKER_01]: And then magically came back to North America.

01:00:22.570 --> 01:00:23.610
[SPEAKER_01]: I knew it would work out fine.

01:00:24.091 --> 01:00:26.011
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what Stephanie McMahon wants you to do anyway.

01:00:26.031 --> 01:00:26.391
[SPEAKER_02]: It's right.

01:00:26.411 --> 01:00:27.672
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

01:00:27.932 --> 01:00:29.974
[SPEAKER_01]: you didn't run into steward or Nile, and what are you up in there?

01:00:30.435 --> 01:00:30.815
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish.

01:00:31.356 --> 01:00:35.180
[SPEAKER_01]: But now I wasn't there long enough to do that, so maybe next time.

01:00:36.782 --> 01:00:38.804
[SPEAKER_01]: But I advise all you to do that to be honest with you.

01:00:39.044 --> 01:00:40.306
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's very simple.

01:00:40.326 --> 01:00:41.627
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's how I'm going to be watching it.

01:00:41.647 --> 01:00:42.848
[SPEAKER_01]: At least until YouTube TV,

01:00:44.072 --> 01:00:54.940
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it gets a agreement and I get it for free and at that point again, as we talked about WWE, it's getting difficult, but I'll still watch the PLEs because my job requires it.

01:00:55.901 --> 01:00:58.263
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's I went up loving beyond last night.

01:00:58.323 --> 01:00:59.984
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be 45 seconds on this.

01:01:00.405 --> 01:01:03.027
[SPEAKER_00]: I watch two NXT matches from No Mercy.

01:01:04.398 --> 01:01:06.320
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, uh, Moriah May.

01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:07.482
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not calling her the other name.

01:01:07.702 --> 01:01:08.623
[SPEAKER_00]: Took on Jordan Grace.

01:01:08.743 --> 01:01:09.484
[SPEAKER_00]: I was curious.

01:01:09.964 --> 01:01:10.545
[SPEAKER_00]: It was good match.

01:01:11.186 --> 01:01:12.227
[SPEAKER_00]: It actually was a good match.

01:01:12.547 --> 01:01:13.568
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, it was a weapons match.

01:01:13.588 --> 01:01:15.070
[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing I would have liked was blood.

01:01:15.510 --> 01:01:18.951
[SPEAKER_00]: You're obviously not going to see that on that in that capacity.

01:01:19.471 --> 01:01:24.993
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll go big reason why I watched was I was very curious to see Ricky Saints in Oberfemi in the main event.

01:01:25.233 --> 01:01:26.193
[SPEAKER_00]: And they had a good match.

01:01:26.833 --> 01:01:29.034
[SPEAKER_00]: It was something that you would rank probably three stars.

01:01:29.174 --> 01:01:30.274
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was fine.

01:01:30.735 --> 01:01:35.396
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Ober has a pretty solid future on the main roster, but shocker of all shockers.

01:01:36.036 --> 01:01:57.500
[SPEAKER_00]: Ricky Starks won the NXT Championship last night after kind of having an up and down last seven or eight months with a next T it's just kind of lost in the shuffle so if you want to go out of your way to watch either those two because you really loved what they didn't need W I think it's worth your time to do if you if you have it otherwise Yeah, do there's choice there

01:01:58.753 --> 01:02:04.657
[SPEAKER_01]: I was a little surprised when I saw that about Ricky because I haven't really seen anybody talking about for me.

01:02:05.017 --> 01:02:05.537
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

01:02:05.817 --> 01:02:08.499
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they've been talking about a highlight on SmackDown, Javion Evans.

01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:09.980
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:02:10.040 --> 01:02:21.907
[SPEAKER_00]: Holy cow, does that kid have a lot of athleticism, if you develop a character that can latch on to we're listening entertainment, he's got a future in either promotion, to be honest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if they were to sign them, I saw somebody out there yelling about I can wash

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, that dude has athleticism.

01:02:30.680 --> 01:02:34.745
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think anybody in AWS outside of maybe a will aspirate.

01:02:35.426 --> 01:02:35.606
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: John says conservation of physical media is important.

01:02:40.772 --> 01:02:41.352
[SPEAKER_01]: Wrestling, you're not.

01:02:41.472 --> 01:02:41.793
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

01:02:42.353 --> 01:02:43.915
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're seeing that more and more now with.

01:02:45.184 --> 01:02:51.691
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, all the streaming services and the rights changing every few months and you know, you think you have access to something and then it disappears forever.

01:02:52.012 --> 01:02:54.074
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, or disappears for a long time.

01:02:54.154 --> 01:02:56.257
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still I still buy movies.

01:02:56.337 --> 01:03:01.242
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really a big fan of on blue ray occasionally or by the digital copies at least.

01:03:01.883 --> 01:03:09.974
[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, yeah, no, I just, I think this WWE archive, it's going to be a problem for people that like the history of pro wrestling long term.

01:03:10.054 --> 01:03:13.979
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm I'm trying to be proactive of compiling my own collection.

01:03:14.039 --> 01:03:17.124
[SPEAKER_01]: I still have all my old wrestling DVDs and blue race to I never ever do those.

01:03:17.264 --> 01:03:17.644
[SPEAKER_01]: But, um,

01:03:18.285 --> 01:03:24.787
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I do think, especially for people like us who do these classic shows, it's going to start getting harder to find some of them.

01:03:25.127 --> 01:03:28.568
[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, once the stuff gets taken out off peacock, I think.

01:03:29.428 --> 01:03:34.430
[SPEAKER_01]: Netflix internationally, you know, again, in my travels to Europe, I've checked into that.

01:03:34.770 --> 01:03:41.212
[SPEAKER_01]: There's, it's on there, you know, there's stuff on there, but not as complete as it was in the past, like with the WWE network days or even peacock.

01:03:41.272 --> 01:03:41.412
[SPEAKER_01]: So,

01:03:42.352 --> 01:03:45.796
[SPEAKER_01]: Just something to be mindful of if you were a fan long term.

01:03:46.016 --> 01:03:48.739
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways We've covered a lot of ground.

01:03:49.379 --> 01:03:50.500
[SPEAKER_01]: I need another cup of coffee.

01:03:50.801 --> 01:03:53.563
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna settle in for some football Ryan Huffman.

01:03:53.703 --> 01:03:54.104
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.

01:03:54.244 --> 01:03:58.588
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope the bear stopped the raiders today Jesse, I haven't not checked the score, but best of luck.

01:03:58.608 --> 01:03:58.808
[SPEAKER_01]: However.

01:03:58.848 --> 01:03:59.329
[SPEAKER_01]: That's going.

01:04:00.009 --> 01:04:00.610
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not good.

01:04:01.631 --> 01:04:02.011
[SPEAKER_01]: Not good.

01:04:02.312 --> 01:04:03.012
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good.

01:04:03.052 --> 01:04:03.193
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:04:03.233 --> 01:04:03.373
[SPEAKER_01]: Well

01:04:04.843 --> 01:04:08.006
[SPEAKER_01]: He got to win over us, keep me posted if you want me to come to U.S.

01:04:08.046 --> 01:04:09.707
[SPEAKER_01]: Bank state a couple.

01:04:09.727 --> 01:04:10.968
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to month and a half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:04:11.669 --> 01:04:11.809
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:04:13.250 --> 01:04:13.871
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, guys.

01:04:13.991 --> 01:04:16.273
[SPEAKER_01]: Justin, good to see you last night, sir.

01:04:16.813 --> 01:04:17.674
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, good to see you.

01:04:17.754 --> 01:04:18.175
[SPEAKER_02]: Apologize.

01:04:18.215 --> 01:04:25.401
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been on mute for a large portion of the show because I think the donuts I fed my boys, the sugar from it is fully kicked in.

01:04:25.501 --> 01:04:27.563
[SPEAKER_02]: I did a little ram bonksious upstairs.

01:04:28.223 --> 01:04:31.106
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought as it was because of the first 25 minutes where I wouldn't shut up.

01:04:31.915 --> 01:04:36.096
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.

01:04:36.136 --> 01:04:39.097
[SPEAKER_01]: I might have talked too much, but no, it's enough to get off my chest.

01:04:40.778 --> 01:04:41.498
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's all we got.

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